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[wantedman dan]

Xilizhra wrote...

Allers doesn't get the Paramour achievement and doesn't count.

Nor should that abhorrence of a "relationship."

It's horrifying to think about.

[Adanu]

Because ME is fun. Just because you can't handle things not going your way doesn't mean others can't.

[wizardryforever]

I was under the impression that Traynor was female only LI. Besides, Kelly and Allers are not actual LIs, just flings. Out of actual LIs, straight males have one extra over the other demographics. Hetero female: Kaidan & Garrus. ****** female: Liara & Traynor. Hetero male: Liara, Ashley, and Tali. ****** male: Cortez and Kaidan. So yeah, only slightly imbalanced.

If you don't get the romance scene with them on the Normandy, they don't count as ME3 romances.

[SetecAstronomy]

Because Mass Effect DLC is fun. I get to sling biotics around and shoot bad guys.

[Texhnolyze101]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

They added one lesbian option, along with one gay option. If any demographic is imbalanced, it's the straight male one; everyone else just has two options. so it's balanced except for that one area.

Femshep
Hetero: 3 total, ZERO without prior romance, 3 if romanced  on prior games, one dies (mandatory)
Kaidan - had to be alive
Garrus - Had to be romanced before
Thane - Had to be romanced before, dies

******: 4
Liara - no need of prior romance
Traynor - no need of prior romance
Allers - no need of prior romance
Kelly - had to be romanced before

MaleShep:

Hetero: 8 total, FOUR can be romanced w/o conditions,  4 more if romanced  on prior games,  0 mandatory deaths
Liara - no need of prior romance
Traynor - no need of prior romance
Allers - no need of prior romance
Kelly - had to be romanced before 
Tali -  had to be romanced before  
Jack -  had to be romanced before  
Miranda -  had to be romanced before  
Ashley -  had to be romanced before   ?

******: 2, no need for prior game romance
Kaidan - if survived Virmire
Cortez - always available

Traynor is a pure lesbian so maleshep can't have her.

Modifié par 101ezylonhxeT, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:23 .

[shurikenmanta]

Because the ending is just a part of a whole to me.

I'm not the kind to stick up my nose at additional adventure just because I don't get an 'I win everything' ending.

[shurikenmanta]

Also yes, Traynor is not a male option. I tried. Believe me, I tried.

[iggy4566]

shurikenmanta wrote...

Because the ending is just a part of a whole to me.

I'm not the kind to stick up my nose at additional adventure just because I don't get an 'I win everything' ending.

Its the fact that the endings don't fit into the lore of Mass effect.

[shurikenmanta]

iggy4566 wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

Because the ending is just a part of a whole to me.

I'm not the kind to stick up my nose at additional adventure just because I don't get an 'I win everything' ending.

Its the fact that the endings don't fit into the lore of Mass effect.

Heh, the BSN would have me believe otherwise it seems...

[wizardryforever]

iggy4566 wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

Because the ending is just a part of a whole to me.

I'm not the kind to stick up my nose at additional adventure just because I don't get an 'I win everything' ending.

Its the fact that the endings don't fit into the lore of Mass effect.

And who is it that decides what the lore of Mass Effect is?  Bioware.  Anything else is just your own personal headcanon.

[Adanu]

iggy4566 wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

Because the ending is just a part of a whole to me.

I'm not the kind to stick up my nose at additional adventure just because I don't get an 'I win everything' ending.

Its the fact that the endings don't fit into the lore of Mass effect.

They are canon and fit in with the lore just fine.

[Ghost]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

They added one lesbian option, along with one gay option. If any demographic is imbalanced, it's the straight male one; everyone else just has two options. so it's balanced except for that one area.

Femshep
Hetero: 3 total, ZERO without prior romance, 3 if romanced  on prior games, one dies (mandatory)
Kaidan - had to be alive
Garrus - Had to be romanced before
Thane - Had to be romanced before, dies

******: 4
Liara - no need of prior romance
Traynor - no need of prior romance
Allers - no need of prior romance
Kelly - had to be romanced before

MaleShep:

Hetero: 8 total, FOUR can be romanced w/o conditions,  4 more if romanced  on prior games,  0 mandatory deaths
Liara - no need of prior romance
Traynor - no need of prior romance
Allers - no need of prior romance
Kelly - had to be romanced before 
Tali -  had to be romanced before  
Jack -  had to be romanced before  
Miranda -  had to be romanced before  
Ashley -  had to be romanced before   ?

******: 2, no need for prior game romance
Kaidan - if survived Virmire
Cortez - always available

Traynor is a pure lesbian so maleshep can't have her.

Femshep
Hetero: 3 total, ONE without prior romance, 3 if romanced  on prior games, one dies (mandatory)
Kaidan - no need of prior romance
Garrus - Had to be romanced before
Thane - Had to be romanced before, dies

******: 2
Liara - no need of prior romance
Traynor - no need of prior romance
Allers - no need of prior romance
Kelly - had to be romanced before

MaleShep:

Hetero: 5 ,  3 more if romanced  on prior games,  0 mandatory deaths
Liara - no need of prior romance
Traynor - no need of prior romance
Allers - no need of prior romance
Kelly - had to be romanced before 
Tali -  had to be romanced before  
Jack -  had to be romanced before  
Miranda -  had to be romanced before  
Ashley -  no need of prior romance

******: 2, no need for prior game romance
Kaidan - if survived Virmire
Cortez - always available

Modifié par Ghost1017, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:34 .

[Xilizhra]

wizardryforever wrote...

I was under the impression that Traynor was female only LI. Besides, Kelly and Allers are not actual LIs, just flings. Out of actual LIs, straight males have one extra over the other demographics. Hetero female: Kaidan & Garrus. ****** female: Liara & Traynor. Hetero male: Liara, Ashley, and Tali. ****** male: Cortez and Kaidan. So yeah, only slightly imbalanced.

If you don't get the romance scene with them on the Normandy, they don't count as ME3 romances.

Well... not quite. Kelly is an actual LI, she just doesn't have enough of a presence in ME3.

[Renmiri1]

Xilizhra wrote...

Allers doesn't get the Paramour achievement and doesn't count. Kelly does, marginally, but never comes back to the Normandy and is a vestigial presence at best.

Thane doesn't either.

The entire "LI" thing was treated as an aftertought for females hetero or not. Lesbian LIs were in for the teenage fanboy.

I wish I knew that before playing ME3. I usually stay miles away from teenage fanboy games / fanservice. Is not something I enjoy and I resent being dupped into buying one.

Modifié par Renmiri1, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:37 .

[Baa Baa]

shurikenmanta wrote...

Also yes, Traynor is not a male option. I tried. Believe me, I tried.

Sadly I wanted to go back and romance her with a second playthrough, I failed miserably

[Reptilian Rob]

crimzontearz wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...once again....no reunion, no purchase. But we all know Bioware, especially Mac and Casey, could not care less as they got what they wanted

"WHAAAAAAAAAAA WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED!"Is how that would have ended. 

whatever

I was refering to Hudson and Mac...Not you. LOL

[Xilizhra]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Allers doesn't get the Paramour achievement and doesn't count. Kelly does, marginally, but never comes back to the Normandy and is a vestigial presence at best.

Thane doesn't either.

The entire "LI" thing was treated as an aftertought for females hetero or not. Lesbian LIs were in for the teenage fanboy.

I wish I knew that before playing ME3. I usually stay miles away from teenage fanboy games / fanservice. Is not something I enjoy and I resent being dupped into buying one.

Don't think for an instant that teenage fanboys were the only ones who enjoyed that. Certainly not the ones who specifically asked for more of it, nor did anyone ask for any male LIs to be shafted.

[SNascimento]

ME3 being awesome to play.

[crimzontearz]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...once again....no reunion, no purchase. But we all know Bioware, especially Mac and Casey, could not care less as they got what they wanted"WHAAAAAAAAAAA WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED!"Is how that would have ended. 

whatever

I was refering to Hudson and Mac...Not you. LOL

oh...well then, you may be happy to know there is a rumor circulating saying they got demoted or something

[The Twilight God]

wizardryforever wrote...
 straight males have one extra over the other demographics.

Odd that they don't have more considering most players are heterosexual males.

[Reptilian Rob]

crimzontearz wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...once again....no reunion, no purchase. But we all know Bioware, especially Mac and Casey, could not care less as they got what they wanted"WHAAAAAAAAAAA WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED!"Is how that would have ended. 

whatever

I was refering to Hudson and Mac...Not you. LOL

oh...well then, you may be happy to know there is a rumor circulating saying they got demoted or something

Happy days.

[Xilizhra]

The Twilight God wrote...

wizardryforever wrote...
 straight males have one extra over the other demographics.

Odd that they don't have more considering most players are heterosexual males.

Not "odd," it's rather good. Though a somewhat better balance would be ideal.

[Texhnolyze101]

Xilizhra wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Allers doesn't get the Paramour achievement and doesn't count. Kelly does, marginally, but never comes back to the Normandy and is a vestigial presence at best.

Thane doesn't either.

The entire "LI" thing was treated as an aftertought for females hetero or not. Lesbian LIs were in for the teenage fanboy.

I wish I knew that before playing ME3. I usually stay miles away from teenage fanboy games / fanservice. Is not something I enjoy and I resent being dupped into buying one.

Don't think for an instant that teenage fanboys were the only ones who enjoyed that. Certainly not the ones who specifically asked for more of it, nor did anyone ask for any male LIs to be shafted.

I'm rather annoyed ashley wasn't an option for femshep like kaiden was for maleshep.

Modifié par 101ezylonhxeT, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:45 .

[crimzontearz]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...once again....no reunion, no purchase. But we all know Bioware, especially Mac and Casey, could not care less as they got what they wanted"WHAAAAAAAAAAA WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED!"Is how that would have ended. whatever

I was refering to Hudson and Mac...Not you. LOL

oh...well then, you may be happy to know there is a rumor circulating saying they got demoted or something

Happy days.

might send them a card

[Texhnolyze101]

crimzontearz wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...once again....no reunion, no purchase. But we all know Bioware, especially Mac and Casey, could not care less as they got what they wanted"WHAAAAAAAAAAA WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED!"Is how that would have ended. 

whatever

I was refering to Hudson and Mac...Not you. LOL

oh...well then, you may be happy to know there is a rumor circulating saying they got demoted or something

Link for such info?