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What's the incentive to buy the DLC, when we know the game ends the way it does?


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#201
iggy4566

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Adanu wrote...

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Because the ending is just a part of a whole to me.

I'm not the kind to stick up my nose at additional adventure just because I don't get an 'I win everything' ending.


Its the fact that the endings don't fit into the lore of Mass effect.


They are canon and fit in with the lore just fine.


They come out of no where and bring up an issue that isn't even important to the plot.

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crimzontearz wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...once again....no reunion, no purchase. But we all know Bioware, especially Mac and Casey, could not care less as they got what they wanted"WHAAAAAAAAAAA WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED!"Is how that would have ended. whatever

I was refering to Hudson and Mac...Not you. LOL

oh...well then, you may be happy to know there is a rumor circulating saying they got demoted or something

Happy days.

might send them a card


Congrats on failing so hard!

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wantedman dan wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...once again....no reunion, no purchase. But we all know Bioware, especially Mac and Casey, could not care less as they got what they wanted"WHAAAAAAAAAAA WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED!"Is how that would have ended. whateverI was refering to Hudson and Mac...Not you. LOL

oh...well then, you may be happy to know there is a rumor circulating saying they got demoted or something

Happy days.

might send them a card

Congrats on failing so hard!

regrettably I am not that much of a gentleman

#204
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crimzontearz wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...once again....no reunion, no purchase. But we all know Bioware, especially Mac and Casey, could not care less as they got what they wanted"WHAAAAAAAAAAA WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED!"Is how that would have ended. whateverI was refering to Hudson and Mac...Not you. LOL

oh...well then, you may be happy to know there is a rumor circulating saying they got demoted or something

Happy days.

might send them a card

Congrats on failing so hard!

regrettably I am not that much of a gentleman


Thank's for f*cking up the series, douchebags!

Oh, wait, that still has politeness.

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Xilizhra wrote...

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Allers doesn't get the Paramour achievement and doesn't count. Kelly does, marginally, but never comes back to the Normandy and is a vestigial presence at best.

Thane doesn't either.

The entire "LI" thing was treated as an aftertought for females hetero or not. Lesbian LIs were in for the teenage fanboy.

I wish I knew that before playing ME3. I usually stay miles away from teenage fanboy games / fanservice. Is not something I enjoy and I resent being dupped into buying one.

Don't think for an instant that teenage fanboys were the only ones who enjoyed that. Certainly not the ones who specifically asked for more of it, nor did anyone ask for any male LIs to be shafted.


Not blaming anyone but Bioware.

The handling of the ending, the dialog wheel middle option, the LIs all point to a narrowing of the targeted audience. It went from people of all ages and sexes to "young male". No wonder the rest of us feel cheated.

Modifié par Renmiri1, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:53 .


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wantedman dan wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...once again....no reunion, no purchase. But we all know Bioware, especially Mac and Casey, could not care less as they got what they wanted"WHAAAAAAAAAAA WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED!"Is how that would have ended. whatever

I was refering to Hudson and Mac...Not you. LOL

oh...well then, you may be happy to know there is a rumor circulating saying they got demoted or something

Happy days.

might send them a card


Congrats on failing so hard!

I may actually do this...LOL

Nah, I'm too much of an adult to do something that low...May send them more cupcakes though.

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

I may actually do this...LOL

Nah, I'm too much of an adult to do something that low...May send them more cupcakes though.


They apparently didn't appreciate it too much.

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Renmiri1 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Allers doesn't get the Paramour achievement and doesn't count. Kelly does, marginally, but never comes back to the Normandy and is a vestigial presence at best.

Thane doesn't either.

The entire "LI" thing was treated as an aftertought for females hetero or not. Lesbian LIs were in for the teenage fanboy.

I wish I knew that before playing ME3. I usually stay miles away from teenage fanboy games / fanservice. Is not something I enjoy and I resent being dupped into buying one.

Don't think for an instant that teenage fanboys were the only ones who enjoyed that. Certainly not the ones who specifically asked for more of it, nor did anyone ask for any male LIs to be shafted.


Not blaming anyone but Bioware.

The handling of the ending, the dialog wheel middle option, the LIs all point to a narrowing of the targeted audience. It went from people of all ages and sexes to "young male". No wonder the rest of us feel cheated.

I can't entirely disagree with you, just please don't be that dismissive of lesbian LIs. They have value to more than yuri fanboys.

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I think the rumor has been disproved. Casey and Mac are still kings of the Mass Effect universe :(

Modifié par Renmiri1, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:56 .


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wantedman dan wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...wantedman dan wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Reptilian Rob wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...once again....no reunion, no purchase. But we all know Bioware, especially Mac and Casey, could not care less as they got what they wanted"WHAAAAAAAAAAA WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED!"Is how that would have ended. whateverI was refering to Hudson and Mac...Not you. LOLoh...well then, you may be happy to know there is a rumor circulating saying they got demoted or something

Happy days.

might send them a card

Congrats on failing so hard!

regrettably I am not that much of a gentleman

Thank's for f*cking up the series, douchebags!Oh, wait, that still has politeness.

I was gonna go for "we of the bsn thought about starting a petition to as the higher ups not to demote you......but we thought it would compromise the artistic integrity of their decision"

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wantedman dan wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

I may actually do this...LOL

Nah, I'm too much of an adult to do something that low...May send them more cupcakes though.


They apparently didn't appreciate it too much.

>Implying I care what they think. 

Also, we may want to tone it down a bit. Yes we are all angry at their horrible writing skills but they are still good people, just not good writers. 

Modifié par Reptilian Rob, 11 juillet 2012 - 12:57 .


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Renmiri1 wrote...I think the rumor is been disproved. Casey and Mac are still kings of the Mass Effect universe :(

nah, they will never admit it, they spin it that they are working on other projects.....ME already has a new writer

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crimzontearz wrote...
I was gonna go for "we of the bsn thought about starting a petition to as the higher ups not to demote you......but we thought it would compromise the artistic integrity of their decision"

:lol::lol::lol:

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Fuzzfro wrote...

1. More mass effect.
2. More backstory on reapers.
3. More time with the characters.
4. More interesting plotlines

Just think that even though the game ends the way it does what you do during the game would likely effect the future of the universe. There is no Rachni slide in the EC ( I think) yet you know by saving the Rachni they will most likely help out galactic civilization.



lol, MORE?

ur kidding, right?

the "more interesting plots" part was very funny.

Modifié par Cobretti ftw, 11 juillet 2012 - 01:00 .


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Renmiri1 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...I was gonna go for "we of the bsn thought about starting a petition to as the higher ups not to demote you......but we thought it would compromise the artistic integrity of their decision"

hehe....told you I am not a gentleman

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See title, ain't gonna bother with a long post when the question is obvious.


Completely agree with this.  Additionally, I don't believe the gameplay of ME3 justifies revisiting the world.  The gameplay simply isn't on par with any other 3rd person shooter.  Next gen should bring the gameplay of Uncharted to a game with RPG story and mechanics.  Same thing with Dragon Age, the gameplay doesn't warrant DLC sales if the story is lacking.

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

>Implying I care what they think. 

Also, we may want to tone it down a bit. Yes we are all angry at their horrible writing skills but they are still good people, just not good writers. 


Meh. I haven't bashed them personally. There's pleny I could say on the subject, believe you me, after hearing that podcast.

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...I may actually do this...LOLNah, I'm too much of an adult to do something that low...May send them more cupcakes though.

They apparently didn't appreciate it too much.

>Implying I care what they think. Also, we may want to tone it down a bit. Yes we are all angry at their horrible writing skills but they are still good people, just not good writers. 

if someone veiledly calls me slow/stupid I am entitled to dislike them as persons too....

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I don't care who's fault it is, who does or does not get punished for it. I just wanted an ending that makes the game replayable and worth SPENDING MORE MONEY on afterwards.

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wizardryforever wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

Because the ending is just a part of a whole to me.

I'm not the kind to stick up my nose at additional adventure just because I don't get an 'I win everything' ending.


Its the fact that the endings don't fit into the lore of Mass effect.

And who is it that decides what the lore of Mass Effect is?  Bioware.  Anything else is just your own personal headcanon.


That's the thing. They have disregarded the lore THEY ESTABLISHED in the previous games.

If a mass relay explodes the destruction of the star system it's in ensues. So in the original ending means everyone dies. But we are the ones who "don't get it". The EC just means everyone is isolated for the foreseable future. As in, no crew reunion for destroy Shepard. There isn't even a reason for the relays being damaged in any way whatsoever. The endings are broken and demonstrate that the writers didn't even bother to check their own cliff notes. It's funny that we are supposed to headcanon how it all turns out, but they have provided just enough to leave no room for anything but bleakness.

And lets not get into the fact that the options are all presented in a pre-packaged symmetrical forcked walkway. Odd that this stuff would on on the citadel at that place of all places considering the Catalyst never expected us. And then he has the power to turn the damn Crucible off (refusal) after not being able to just turn it off when you first arrive. It's just a mess. Anderson followed shepard into the conduit, but is ahead of him... ugh. No ability to challenge the Catalyst warped logic. It's simply not mass effect. There is no reason to even believe any of the new choices offered are anything but attempts to get Shepard to suicide himself. It's poorly written and clearly rushed. How did the Normandy get to some jungle world? They didn't even make it to the mass relay as the rainbow wave was faster than FTL. Does Sol have another garden world? The sol relay only goes to Arcturus which is a dying red giant. No garden worlds there. And for ships suddenly knocked out of FTL "the effects are catastrophic. The ship is snapped back to sublight velocity, the enormous excess energy shed in the form of lethal Cherenkov radiation."

And you think the ending makes sense given the lore BIOWARE THEMSELVES have established?

There is a valid reason for people to HOPE it was all a hallucination.

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iakus wrote...I don't care who's fault it is, who does or does not get punished for it. I just wanted an ending that makes the game replayable and worth SPENDING MORE MONEY on afterwards.

sorry here's a list of studios to look up then.....343i, Bethesda, CDPR, Vigil

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wantedman dan wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

>Implying I care what they think. 

Also, we may want to tone it down a bit. Yes we are all angry at their horrible writing skills but they are still good people, just not good writers. 


Meh. I haven't bashed them personally. There's pleny I could say on the subject, believe you me, after hearing that podcast.

Podcast was awful and was just them venting they couln't have it their way.

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Fuzzfro wrote...
2. More backstory on reapers.


I pretty sure all backstory on the Reapers has already been shot to heck by the ending sequence.  I'm not sure adding more on top of all the nonsense will make it any better.  What Soverign says and what the catalyst says do not work together at all.

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The Twilight God wrote...

wizardryforever wrote...

iggy4566 wrote...

shurikenmanta wrote...

Because the ending is just a part of a whole to me.

I'm not the kind to stick up my nose at additional adventure just because I don't get an 'I win everything' ending.


Its the fact that the endings don't fit into the lore of Mass effect.

And who is it that decides what the lore of Mass Effect is?  Bioware.  Anything else is just your own personal headcanon.


That's the thing. They have disregarded the lore THEY ESTABLISHED in the previous games.

If a mass relay explodes the destruction of the star system it's in ensues. So in the original ending means everyone dies. But we are the ones who "don't get it". The EC just means everyone is isolated for the foreseable future. As in, no crew reunion for destroy Shepard. There isn't even a reason for the relays being damaged in any way whatsoever. The endings are broken and demonstrate that the writers didn't even bother to check their own cliff notes. It's funny that we are supposed to headcanon how it all turns out, but they have provided just enough to leave no room for anything but bleakness.

And lets not get into the fact that the options are all presented in a pre-packaged symmetrical forcked walkway. Odd that this stuff would on on the citadel at that place of all places considering the Catalyst never expected us. And then he has the power to turn the damn Crucible off (refusal) after not being able to just turn it off when you first arrive. It's just a mess. Anderson followed shepard into the conduit, but is ahead of him... ugh. No ability to challenge the Catalyst warped logic. It's simply not mass effect. There is no reason to even believe any of the new choices offered are anything but attempts to get Shepard to suicide himself. It's poorly written and clearly rushed. How did the Normandy get to some jungle world? They didn't even make it to the mass relay as the rainbow wave was faster than FTL. Does Sol have another garden world? The sol relay only goes to Arcturus which is a dying red giant. No garden worlds there. And for ships suddenly knocked out of FTL "the effects are catastrophic. The ship is snapped back to sublight velocity, the enormous excess energy shed in the form of lethal Cherenkov radiation."

And you think the ending makes sense given the lore BIOWARE THEMSELVES have established?

There is a valid reason for people to HOPE it was all a hallucination.

So you're saying that you know better than the writers as to what they meant?  Right.  Regardless, the writers have the authority as to what can and can't happen in their setting.  You're free to no like it, but that's the way it is.

I also marvel at your ability to headcanon into existence only the negative, without considering the very positive way the ending is portrayed in all three endings (refusal is a glorified game-over, as it should be).  Not perfect, but it's hardly the garbled mess that so many claim it is, especially now.

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

>Implying I care what they think. 

Also, we may want to tone it down a bit. Yes we are all angry at their horrible writing skills but they are still good people, just not good writers. 


Meh. I haven't bashed them personally. There's pleny I could say on the subject, believe you me, after hearing that podcast.

Podcast was awful and was just them venting they couln't have it their way.


"How dare you, plebians, not 'get' our ending?!"