LobselVith8 wrote...
(...)grregg wrote...
Well, yes. And that's because David Gaider and his crew have to write it. It's not the question of "denying" and "stripping away," it's a question of which options should be implemented. It seems that atheism is just not that important and they are choosing to focus on something else.
The option was avaliable in Origins for The Warden to express that he didn't believe in the Maker. The option isn't avaliable for Hawke in Dragon Age II, and the writers made him an Andrastian, regardless of how the player feels about the fictional religion. I think that's a mistake to repeat in Dragon Age III.
Also, Gaider's trying to make it seem as though atheism simply doesn't exist in Thedas, but we know that isn't the case. Morrigan makes it clear that she doesn't believe in either the Maker or a higher power:
Leliana: So you truly do not believe in any sort of higher power?
Morrigan: It has been bothering you, I see. No, I do not. Must I?
Leliana: What do you believe happens to you after you die then? Nothing?
Morrigan: I do not go sit by the Maker's side, if that's what you mean.
Leliana: Only those who are worthy are brought to the Maker's side. So many other sad souls are left to wander in the void, hopeless and forever lost.
Morrigan: And what evidence of this have you? I see only spirits, no wandering ghosts of wicked disbelievers.
Leliana: It must be so sad to look forward to nothing, to feel no love and seek no reward in the afterlife.
Morrigan: Yes, the anguish tears at me so. You have seen through me to my sad, sad core.
Leliana: Now you're simply mocking me.
Morrigan: You notice? It appears your perceptive powers know no bounds.
Also, the Qunari seem to follow a philosophy, not any deity.grregg wrote...
You do write like DA3 already exists somewhere and all the BioWare has to do is to give us access to it. Just think that any and every option that they give us, has to be created and they have to ditch some of them if they ever want to push the game out of the door.
Especially considering that "Maker doesn't exist!" type of statements are likely to be seriously controversial in DA world, so it's not just a matter of writing the lines, you also have to account for consequences, or it'll all be just window dressing.
There is a precedent for this: the Cousland protagonist could say that he doesn't believe in the Maker. The Surana protagonist could make it clear he doesn't worship the Maker. I don't see why this should be prohibited for the protagonist of Dragon Age III; I don't see why we should be forced to have religiously Andrastian protagonists when atheism clearly exists in Thedas. Every time I hear about Dragon Age III, all the freedoms that we had avaliable in Origins seem to be missing.
You misunderstood what I wrote, I think. The point was not that nobody ever mentioned atheism in DA:O. The point was, so what? It's not like they can reuse the dialogue, can they? No, if they want the atheism to be "mentionable," they have to put it in the newly created conversations.
I'll repeat then, it is not the question of "stripping away" or "denying" because the atheism option does not exist in DA3 (since DA3 doesn't exist). It has to be created and when they create a game, I'm sure there is a long, long list of things that would be nice to have. Apparently atheism is rather low on the list and it won't happen.
And again, one reason might be that expressing atheism in DA3 world is likely a statement with serious consequences. Just consider that a statement made by a Grey Warden in the middle of a Blight might be treated with considerably more leniency than a similar sentiment expressed in the midst of Chantry/Templars/Mages conflict.
Where a Warden might get a "yeah, whatever, go and kill some darkspawn" response, a different type of character in DA3 situation can probably expect "burn the heretic!" sort of thing. So one reason that atheism might not be there is the same as why you cannot walk up to a king in DA games and exclaim "Long live democracy!"
Retour en haut
