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#101
darkmax1974

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it is good to know a developer cares enough to chat with his fans.

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Kreid

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So here's a man responsible in part of the awesomeness that DA:O is, specially in the character department.



Thank you David Gaider.

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Oren however, would like to have a word with you. David Gaider.

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thenemesis77 wrote...

imported_beer wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

My proudest moment.

I know it probably makes me a bad person, but there are moments when the thought of all the Alistair fangirls and Morrigan fanboys tearing out their hair and rending their shirts pleases me inordinately.


Really?

Hmm...good to know. 



I know what you  mean, to me it seems the writers get off  on making the story have very little good and it's out to make you feel bad at the end and as he said, it's not about making you happy.  I guess that sells, it did on the  first one, but I will be honest as much as I have liked this game, untill it's end, I will think twice on getting the next one, not all things in the dark ages were bad, somewhere there had to be some good.


I think you're right about this. I once told one of the writers of Guild Wars that I cried when Prince Rurik died and his reaction was a wide satisfied grin and a  "Yes!".  I guess writers like the idea of their stories being powerful enough to move the reader/player to tears but personally, I worship at the altar of Tolkien, whose story ends so beautifully it makes me want to read it over and over again. I too, hope that the sequel will have a happier ending. It gives you more satisfaction knowing that you as the hero, truly made things right with the world.

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TrinityDivine wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

imported_beer wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

My proudest moment.

I know it probably makes me a bad person, but there are moments when the thought of all the Alistair fangirls and Morrigan fanboys tearing out their hair and rending their shirts pleases me inordinately.


Really?

Hmm...good to know. 



I know what you  mean, to me it seems the writers get off  on making the story have very little good and it's out to make you feel bad at the end and as he said, it's not about making you happy.  I guess that sells, it did on the  first one, but I will be honest as much as I have liked this game, untill it's end, I will think twice on getting the next one, not all things in the dark ages were bad, somewhere there had to be some good.


I think you're right about this. I once told one of the writers of Guild Wars that I cried when Prince Rurik died and his reaction was a wide satisfied grin and a  "Yes!".  I guess writers like the idea of their stories being powerful enough to move the reader/player to tears but personally, I worship at the altar of Tolkien, whose story ends so beautifully it makes me want to read it over and over again. I too, hope that the sequel will have a happier ending. It gives you more satisfaction knowing that you as the hero, truly made things right with the world.



Not all Tolkien's tales ended happily, the SIlmarllion is filled with allot more darker and tragic endings (the tale of Turin is a particularly tragic one, for him and his whole family)

But yep, not everything always has to be doom and gloom, though to be fair there were so good points to the ending of DA depending on the choices you made Image IPB

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TrinityDivine wrote...


I think you're right about this. I once told one of the writers of Guild Wars that I cried when Prince Rurik died and his reaction was a wide satisfied grin and a  "Yes!".  I guess writers like the idea of their stories being powerful enough to move the reader/player to tears but personally, I worship at the altar of Tolkien, whose story ends so beautifully it makes me want to read it over and over again. I too, hope that the sequel will have a happier ending. It gives you more satisfaction knowing that you as the hero, truly made things right with the world.



Well, of course we want you to cry when you reach the sad parts.  If you cared enough about him to feel sorrow when he died, then you were immersed, and as the forums have often declared, immersion trumps everything, right?  All writers generally want their audience to get the emotion they were trying to convey.   Nobody writes a horror story thinking, "Man, I hope nobody anywhere finds this scary in the slightest!" and nobody writes a tragedy hoping the reader will say, "Meh, I never liked any of those characters anyway." and nobody writes a comedy with the secret wish in their heart of hearts that it does not get even a single chuckle. 

Well, maybe some writers do.  I've watched some truly horrible comedies lately.

Modifié par Mary Kirby, 17 décembre 2009 - 10:34 .


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Mary Kirby wrote...

 Nobody writes a horror story thinking, "Man, I hope nobody anywhere finds this scary in the slightest!"


I don't know, does Scary Movie count?

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Mary Kirby wrote...
Well, maybe some writers do.  I've watched some truly horrible comedies lately.

Yeah, what was with the Road anyway?

Not a single laugh. I left disappointed.

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Herr Uhl

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The Angry One wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

 Nobody writes a horror story thinking, "Man, I hope nobody anywhere finds this scary in the slightest!"


I don't know, does Scary Movie count?


I think that movies name is false advertising.

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Mary Kirby wrote...
Well, of course we want you to cry when you reach the sad parts.  If you cared enough about him to feel sorrow when he died, then you were immersed, and as the forums have often declared, immersion trumps everything, right?  All writers generally want their audience to get the emotion they were trying to convey.   Nobody writes a horror story thinking, "Man, I hope nobody anywhere finds this scary in the slightest!" and nobody writes a tragedy hoping the reader will say, "Meh, I never liked any of those characters anyway." and nobody writes a comedy with the secret wish in their heart of hearts that it does not get even a single chuckle. 

Well, maybe some writers do.  I've watched some truly horrible comedies lately.


I imagine some people somewhere find them funny, but there definitely are a lot of truly awful comedies out there. Some are so bad they're good, but that's generally not the case.

Also, best comedy of 09 was Gran Torino without a doubt.

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darkmax1974 wrote...

it is good to know a developer cares enough to chat with his fans.


Wht wouldnt they join in a thread like this?

Might as well join in the Ego Stroking, My thanks to all the writing staff of DA:O. Great game. Writing characters strong enough to be respected but flexible enough to be in a game like DA: O cant be simple!

Is it as rewarding as it is challenging?

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David Gaider wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...
Well, maybe some writers do.  I've watched some truly horrible comedies lately.

Yeah, what was with the Road anyway?

Not a single laugh. I left disappointed.


I know!  I kept waiting for someone to get hit in the family jewels, or slip on a banana peel or something.  Put a little effort into it, at least! Cormac McCarthy is such an amateur.

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Can't you two talk in person.:P

J/K. I like it.

Modifié par SpaceAlex, 17 décembre 2009 - 11:00 .


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SpaceAlex wrote...

Can't you two talk in person. :P

J/K. I like it.


He's all the way upstairs!  Like, three whole flights!  I'd have to *shudder* walk to do that.

Or use IM.  What are you, some kind of slavedriver?

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Mary Kirby wrote...
He's all the way upstairs!  Like, three whole flights!  I'd have to *shudder* walk to do that.


*wipes tear of cheek* the marvels of technology.

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Get me a spot as an intern and I'll carry your messages!

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The Angry One

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Canadians. Too much maple syrup, that's your problem.

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Mary Kirby wrote...

What are you, some kind of slavedriver?


Indeed. You should be glad you're working for Bioware. My slaves get no such luxury. :devil:


Dunhart wrote...

Get me a spot as an intern and I'll carry your messages!


Well, you do appear to be an elf, so it's fitting I guess.

Modifié par SpaceAlex, 17 décembre 2009 - 11:08 .


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Mary Kirby wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...
Well, maybe some writers do.  I've watched some truly horrible comedies lately.

Yeah, what was with the Road anyway?

Not a single laugh. I left disappointed.


I know!  I kept waiting for someone to get hit in the family jewels, or slip on a banana peel or something.  Put a little effort into it, at least! Cormac McCarthy is such an amateur.


I thought the barbecued baby was comedic genius. Maybe the humor is too sophisticated for you.

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Tassiaw wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

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David Gaider is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

Well, that's like, your opinion... man.

I think by "ever known" what he really means is "never met". Image IPB


Perhaps he watches you from your bushes at night?

Also, I'd like to echo the OP and say thank you, as well. Alistair and Morrigan were both amazing, and good on the entire DA:O team for making such a wonderful fantasy game. I was well and truly tired of the fantasy genre, but you rekindled an old flame for me.

I love you guys, I always have. You make me proud to be Albertan.



First it's  I like you and then david turns us into frogs at the end of this great story. Image IPB

Modifié par thenemesis77, 18 décembre 2009 - 12:20 .


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I think David Gaider is a man-god...

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Herr Uhl

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ErraticUnicorn wrote...

I think David Gaider is a man-god...


Pheh. To compare him with such a simple thing as man. He is a god-god.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

ErraticUnicorn wrote...

I think David Gaider is a man-god...


Pheh. To compare him with such a simple thing as man. He is a god-god.


No, he is a tortoise. This much is obvious.

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Lil-Vinny29

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My turn to give thanks to David Gaider and again to Bioware to make DragonAge possible, bought the Stolen Throne and looking for the Calling

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This thread meets with my approval.



Bioware=Awesome.