Modifié par Eain, 11 juillet 2012 - 03:32 .
CronoDragoon wrote...
Really, my eyes were opened with the whole Kane & Lynch Gamespot scandal, however I had no idea that the attitude was so pervasive to every major reviewing company. Every time you think you aren't naive anymore...
Modifié par Anti-killer, 11 juillet 2012 - 03:39 .
nitefyre410 wrote...
CronoDragoon wrote...
Really, my eyes were opened with the whole Kane & Lynch Gamespot scandal, however I had no idea that the attitude was so pervasive to every major reviewing company. Every time you think you aren't naive anymore...
Oh I noticed it before that ... some with some of langauge used in the reviews and the tone of the review... especially after i would play a game , read a review and asked. Did me and the reviewer play the same game.
Kel Riever wrote...
It points out how much video game writers, in general, STILL suck, and how video game companies still don't get the importance of it. Typical cutting off the nose despite the face by a fundamentally amateurist industry. And it shows exactly the aforementioned noob journalism (which isn't journalism at all, but pure marketing lying that it is journalism) that accompanies an ignorant industry.
Modifié par nitefyre410, 11 juillet 2012 - 03:43 .
Modifié par naes1984, 11 juillet 2012 - 03:44 .
Frybread76 wrote...
It's shown me that Bioware is no longer one of my top-tier developers and that I don't like the direction RPG's are going in.
Modifié par naes1984, 11 juillet 2012 - 03:57 .
naes1984 wrote...
Story and writing are still not where they need to be. Game developers increasingly do not understand their audiences and increasingly do not care. Of the 3.5 million or so sales of ME2, what percentage of those people said "Boy this would be even better with repetitive multiplayer maps"? People maybe wanted co-opt but I digress. They think all gamers are the same and want the same things; gamers must all be COD and GoW bros. They tried to make DA2 more action oriented in order to pretend it was like God of War. Of course, making it faster just makes it harder to play (and less fun for your RPG audience). All it ended up doing was pissing everyone off.
Modifié par nitefyre410, 11 juillet 2012 - 04:18 .
nitefyre410 wrote...
naes1984 wrote...
Story and writing are still not where they need to be. Game developers increasingly do not understand their audiences and increasingly do not care. Of the 3.5 million or so sales of ME2, what percentage of those people said "Boy this would be even better with repetitive multiplayer maps"? People maybe wanted co-opt but I digress. They think all gamers are the same and want the same things; gamers must all be COD and GoW bros. They tried to make DA2 more action oriented in order to pretend it was like God of War. Of course, making it faster just makes it harder to play (and less fun for your RPG audience). All it ended up doing was pissing everyone off.
Well DA:O a combat suck complete and totaly ass... really and died ME shooting mechanics
The entire fight "Moving into positon"
RPG battle Systems across the board really needed to evolve because they were getting stagant. Problem with DA 2... it was not done well and its was nothing like God of War. The closet thing I could compare it to was Kingdom Hearts 2.
Just because your game has story driven gameplay does mean you get to slack on the gameplay part.
A game that does this balancing marvelously was is Persona 3 and Persona 4.
nitefyre410 wrote...
naes1984 wrote...
Story and writing are still not where they need to be. Game developers increasingly do not understand their audiences and increasingly do not care. Of the 3.5 million or so sales of ME2, what percentage of those people said "Boy this would be even better with repetitive multiplayer maps"? People maybe wanted co-opt but I digress. They think all gamers are the same and want the same things; gamers must all be COD and GoW bros. They tried to make DA2 more action oriented in order to pretend it was like God of War. Of course, making it faster just makes it harder to play (and less fun for your RPG audience). All it ended up doing was pissing everyone off.
Well DA:O a combat suck complete and totaly ass... really and did ME shooting mechanics.
The entire fight "Moving into positon"
RPG battle Systems across the board really needed to evolve because they were getting stagant. Problem with DA 2... it was not done well and its was nothing like God of War. The closet thing I could compare it to was Kingdom Hearts 2.
Just because your game has story driven gameplay does mean you get to slack on the gameplay part.
A game that does this balancing marvelously was is Persona 3 and Persona 4.
The RPGenius wrote...
ME3 has negatively affected my view of the gaming industry. I already had a very negative view of it, of course, as is inevitable of nearly anyone with even the slightest knowledge of its workings. But one of the few aspects of the gaming industry I had some trust in was Bioware's appreciation for its audience, and its artistic skills and integrity. Now, however, the PR statements Bioware's made since the ending debacle first appeared, the tone of the Refusal ending, and the whole mess of ME3 in general has proven to me that Bioware is extraordinarily arrogant, no longer cares about its product and audience so much as it cares about its image, and has absolutely no understanding of what "artistic integrity" actually means (if what you're defending flies in the face of the thematic values of your work as a whole, then for the sake of your art's integrity you change it). Mass Effect 3's ending and Bioware's actions and statements regarding it will just be added to a long list of video game moments disappointing enough to alter my perception of media, taking a place in the halls of my memory with such honored disasters as Chrono Cross, Grandia 3, and Suikoden 4.
I've also learned from the outright lies expressed in interviews before the game's release by ME3's head writers about how the story and ending would go that a video game is apparently the one thing where you'll suffer no form of legal punishment for advertising a completely different product than what you're actually selling. Awesome.
ME3 has also given me circumstantial yet extremely-obvious-in-the-common-sense-way confirmation that the major "journalists" of the gaming industry are easily bribed and have little to no journalistic integrity. I mean, I always suspected that IGN's general incompetence and shallow, pandering nature were tied to being capable of being bought off, but seeing them stand at the side of patently obvious poor writing and outright attack their own audience couldn't be a better indicator than if someone recorded EA's CEO hand-delivering a bag of gold coins to IGN's offices.
At least there's still Nintendo and Atlus. Man, when the day comes that those 2 final bastions of decency and care for one's product lose their integrity as Bioware has, I'm not going to be a mentally sound man any longer.
Asch Lavigne wrote...
This is not restricted to just ME3, but I learned that once they have a fanbase they will change the game to draw in a new crowd and not worry about the original fans because they're already invested and will be coming back. They don't have to work hard to keep you or anything. It boggles my mind whenever someone asks "why didn't such and such game (like ME3 or DA2) appeal more to fans of the first game(s) rather than the new ones? Because they already have you, that's why.
Modifié par naes1984, 11 juillet 2012 - 04:29 .
Frybread76 wrote...
It's shown me that Bioware is no longer one of my top-tier developers and that I don't like the direction RPG's are going in.
naes1984 wrote...
Asch Lavigne wrote...
This is not restricted to just ME3, but I learned that once they have a fanbase they will change the game to draw in a new crowd and not worry about the original fans because they're already invested and will be coming back. They don't have to work hard to keep you or anything. It boggles my mind whenever someone asks "why didn't such and such game (like ME3 or DA2) appeal more to fans of the first game(s) rather than the new ones? Because they already have you, that's why.
DA2 sold half of what the first game sold (see VGChartz.com). They tried to bring in a new action-orientated audience and failed. They tried to retain their RPG audience and failed at that as well. They can't assume that they already have certain groups of fans in the bag.
naes1984 wrote...
*Snip*
Obviously it was nothing like God of War but they were trying to fool people into buying a game by making it look like a hack and slash action game while still telling the fans of the 1st game "Don't worry we've got you covered too". Sadly they didn't satisfy either.
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