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F/F romances vs M/M romances

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:34

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Hello guys

I wondered whether you thought the female/female romances or the male/male romances were handled better in the three games.

By this I mean who did you think were the best options for them. Were the F/F romances more interesting/more provided for  than M/M, and vice versa.

F/F will take into account: Liara (yes, she is female, so shep would be considered a lesbian if she romanced her), Kelly, (Samara/Morinth), Samantha, Diana Allers

M/M will take into account: Kaidan, Cortez

My opinion is that, while the M/M kaidan romance is very well done, I do feel it is a bit unfair that they only got 2 as opposed to F/F's 4, and so the gay broshep's had the short end of the romance stick.

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:36

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Yeah but more people want to walk up the side street than the back alley way.
As far as I am concerned the back alley should be off limits for brothers in arms,

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:38

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Those Protheans wrote...

Yeah but more people want to walk up the side street than the back alley way.
As far as I am concerned the back alley should be off limits for brothers in arms,


Im not sure what 'side street' you meanPosted Image

But does this mean you think lesbian romances are valid, but gay romances are not?

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:39

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Flog61 wrote...

Those Protheans wrote...

Yeah but more people want to walk up the side street than the back alley way.
As far as I am concerned the back alley should be off limits for brothers in arms,


Im not sure what 'side street' you meanPosted Image

But does this mean you think lesbian romances are valid, but gay romances are not?


I never said that.
But make of my post what you will.

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:40

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As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:41

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You forgot The Consort, OP; that's as much of a "romance" as Allers is.

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:42

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Generally, all are fine, though the weakest handling of the romances were in ME2 even if options were greater, and the best was ME1 even with limited options. Wel,l the weakest handling of the romances was clearly also after the little boy of light starts talking, but that is already clear...

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:43

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SergeantSnookie wrote...

As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.


F/F is more popular in real life so...

Modifié par Those Protheans, 11 juillet 2012 - 07:44 .

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SergeantSnookie wrote...

As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.


True, but M/M still got one deep romance (kaidan) and F/F got one deep romance too (liara), so in terms of quality, they both got similar standards.

Maybe the ME writers are less comfortable with the man on man action than the rest of Bioware.

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:44

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Kel Riever wrote...

Generally, all are fine, though the weakest handling of the romances were in ME2 even if options were greater, and the best was ME1 even with limited options.

I completely disagree. ME1 had the worst romances I've seen in a Bioware game.

Modifié par Cthulhu42, 11 juillet 2012 - 07:44 .

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:45

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Flog61 wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.


True, but M/M still got one deep romance (kaidan) and F/F got one deep romance too (liara), so in terms of quality, they both got similar standards.


Maybe the ME writers are less comfortable with the man on man action than the rest of Bioware.


Maybe Female on Female is more popular and the majority rules.

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Those Protheans wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.


F/F is more popular in real life so...





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That's like saying 'Jocks are more popular in life than sceince nerds, so Tali shouldn't be a squadmate'.

I.e. it's non-sensical

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:46

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Those Protheans wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.


F/F is more popular in real life so...







I assure you, the majority of the people who do the lesbian romances are dudes, not actual lesbians.

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:47

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Flog61 wrote...

Those Protheans wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.


F/F is more popular in real life so...





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That's like saying 'Jocks are more popular in life than sceince nerds, so Tali shouldn't be a squadmate'.

I.e. it's non-sensical


I don't really want you compare this to social standing as they're two different things.
Compare it to something else to prove your point

I also argue I generally don't care college and under.

Modifié par Those Protheans, 11 juillet 2012 - 07:48 .

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:48

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

Kel Riever wrote...

Generally, all are fine, though the weakest handling of the romances were in ME2 even if options were greater, and the best was ME1 even with limited options.

I completely disagree. ME1 had the worst romances I've seen in a Bioware game.


Hey, I can respect a different opinion...apparently unlike Mac or Casey...

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:48

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Flog61 wrote...

Those Protheans wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.


F/F is more popular in real life so...





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That's like saying 'Jocks are more popular in life than sceince nerds, so Tali shouldn't be a squadmate'.

I.e. it's non-sensical


There are more jock squadmates then nerd ones.

There are more F/F romances then M/M

Makes sense to me

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:49

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SergeantSnookie wrote...

Those Protheans wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.


F/F is more popular in real life so...







I assure you, the majority of the people who do the lesbian romances are dudes, not actual lesbians.


I think that's what he means, but as I said, just because something's more popular doesn't mean it shouldn't be in the game.

Jocks are more popular than science nerds, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to recruit or romance tali

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:49

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Kel Riever wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Kel Riever wrote...

Generally, all are fine, though the weakest handling of the romances were in ME2 even if options were greater, and the best was ME1 even with limited options.

I completely disagree. ME1 had the worst romances I've seen in a Bioware game.


Hey, I can respect a different opinion...apparently unlike Mac or Casey...

Fair enough; I shall respect yours as well.

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:50

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SergeantSnookie wrote...

Those Protheans wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.


F/F is more popular in real life so...







I assure you, the majority of the people who do the lesbian romances are dudes, not actual lesbians.


Which is even more reason

2:1
Majority rules

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:50

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Those Protheans wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.


F/F is more popular in real life so...






A persons sexual prefrence is no ones concern but their own

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Those Protheans
Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:51

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Flog61 wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Those Protheans wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.


F/F is more popular in real life so...







I assure you, the majority of the people who do the lesbian romances are dudes, not actual lesbians.


I think that's what he means, but as I said, just because something's more popular doesn't mean it shouldn't be in the game.

Jocks are more popular than science nerds, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to recruit or romance tali


I don't think that is a valid argument but considering Tali is outnumbered by jocks I think I proved my point.

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:51

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Banul wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Those Protheans wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

As unfair as it is, F/F sells better than M/M.


F/F is more popular in real life so...





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That's like saying 'Jocks are more popular in life than sceince nerds, so Tali shouldn't be a squadmate'.

I.e. it's non-sensical


There are more jock squadmates then nerd ones.

There are more F/F romances then M/M

Makes sense to me


Jocks = ???

Kaidan? Really?

I guess james and jacob may count

Nerds= Tali, Mordin, kind of kasumi

Doesn't fit to me.


I'll use another example.

@Banul, @thoseprotheans The colour blue is the most popular in the world, so does this mean there should not be any other colours in games?

If you love the colour blue then you won't mind so much, but if you don't like it, you will definately mind it.

In the same way, you are straight so it's probably more hard for you to understand how insulting the comments you make sound

Modifié par Flog61, 11 juillet 2012 - 07:54 .

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:51

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Actually, Bisexual woman are more popular than anything. When I took a class on Queer Cinema (That's what it's called) you learn that the most commonly seen representation of an LGBT person is a Bisexual female.

I'm heterosexual but that doesn't prevent me from appreciating both Cortez and Traynor, who are some of the best LGBT figures I've ever seen in a video game.

They may actually BE the best LGBT characters.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 11 juillet 2012 - 07:52 .

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:52

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Two things.

1. I don't count Samara/Morinth as a romance because Samara doesn't even kiss you, and Morinth kills you if your try anything.

2. Both of the M/M romances are full romances whereas Kelly and Allers (again not counting S/M... unintended pun, but I'm leaving it in) you basically get a single line, and I don't think either of them get the bed scene.

That said, yeah, the more options the better.

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Posté 11 juillet 2012 - 07:54

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I haven't seen them all, but I though the Romances in the game were done pretty well, gay and straight. Although really for F/F I wouldn't count Chambers and Allers for a full romance, not much content AFAIK.
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