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[flanny]

I never liked it myself, i have nothing against same-sex relationships, i just find it strange Shepard spends two games romancing women that suddenly decides he's gay.

you can't establish someone as straight character for two games then suddenly change it

[Ageless Face]

flanny wrote...

I never liked it myself, i have nothing against same-sex relationships, i just find it strange Shepard spends two games romancing women that suddenly decides he's gay.

you can't establish someone as straight character for two games then suddenly change it

You know that there are some people didn't romance women in ME1 and 2? They stayed alone.

Shepard is the player's character. Just because there weren't any gay/bi romances for ManShep, doesn't mean the player can't still see their Shepard as gay.

And BTW, if FemShep can be gay, why can't ManShep?

Modifié par HagarIshay, 12 juillet 2012 - 02:12 .

[Beep Il]

HagarIshay wrote...

You know that there are some people didn't romance women in ME1 and 2? They stayed alone.

The story of my Shepard.

[Ageless Face]

Beep Il wrote...
The story of my Shepard.

You definitely got the short hand of the stick. Even FemShep had Liara. I'm sorry for you. 

[Beep Il]

HagarIshay wrote...

Beep Il wrote...
The story of my Shepard.

You definitely got the short hand of the stick. Even FemShep had Liara. I'm sorry for you. 

I'm not. Steve is a dream come true.

[flanny]

HagarIshay wrote...

flanny wrote...

I never liked it myself, i have nothing against same-sex relationships, i just find it strange Shepard spends two games romancing women that suddenly decides he's gay.

you can't establish someone as straight character for two games then suddenly change it

You know that there are some people didn't romance women in ME1 and 2? They stayed alone.

Shepard is the player's character. Just because there weren't any gay/bi romances for ManShep, doesn't mean the player can't still see their Shepard as gay.

And BTW, if FemShep can be gay, why can't ManShep?

what so in ME1 Kaiden and Shepard discuss women together then all of sudden they're gay together? that's just stupid.

Again nothing against the idea but i think Separd is defined as straight in the first two game, to change it in the last of the trilogy doesn't make sense 

Also Asari aren't women they have no gender, they're also you know an aliens

[Xilizhra]

what so in ME1 Kaiden and Shepard discuss women together then all of sudden they're gay together? that's just stupid.

Just unsure of each other.

Again nothing against the idea but i think Separd is defined as straight in the first two game, to change it in the last of the trilogy doesn't make sense

It's not like they came to your house and sprayed your Shepard with aerosol gay; it's up to the player. In any case, he could easily be closeted.

Also Asari aren't women they have no gender, they're also you know an aliens

Monogendered, not no-gendered. Also, there's no logical reason to be attracted to one unless one is generally attracted to women.

[Vigilant111]

flanny wrote...

what so in ME1 Kaiden and Shepard discuss women together then all of sudden they're gay together? that's just stupid.

Again nothing against the idea but i think Separd is defined as straight in the first two game, to change it in the last of the trilogy doesn't make sense 

Also Asari aren't women they have no gender, they're also you know an aliens

Define the word "defined" please

Modifié par Vigilant111, 12 juillet 2012 - 02:34 .

[Ageless Face]

flanny wrote...
what so in ME1 Kaiden and Shepard discuss women together then all of sudden they're gay together? that's just stupid.

Again nothing against the idea but i think Separd is defined as straight in the first two game, to change it in the last of the trilogy doesn't make sense 

Also Asari aren't women they have no gender, they're also you know an aliens

Does Shepard always say in ME1 to Kaidan he wants to be with women? Maybe cause I don't play ManShep much, but I don't remeber such a thing. Only Kaidan talked about women. Shepard doesn't have to say anything about that.

You think Shepard is straight because you played him as one. Some people played their Shepard differently. 

Asari are all genetically women. Even if you ignore that fact, they sure look and talk like ones. A gay/bi FemShep will be attracted to her, where straight one won't be. 

Modifié par HagarIshay, 12 juillet 2012 - 02:41 .

[flanny]

Vigilant111 wrote...

flanny wrote...

what so in ME1 Kaiden and Shepard discuss women together then all of sudden they're gay together? that's just stupid.

Again nothing against the idea but i think Separd is defined as straight in the first two game, to change it in the last of the trilogy doesn't make sense 

Also Asari aren't women they have no gender, they're also you know an aliens

Define the word "defined" please

male Shepard romances woman and flirts with women, he does not with men. His general attitude is that he is interested in women.

Also the fact Kaiden can suddenly be gay and makes a move on you despite knowing you're sleeping with a female sort ruins his character, considering i only saved him on virmire because he is Shepard's best friend. It wouldn't have mattered if it was established in ME1 but by ME3 it is too late and just looks stupid

[flanny]

HagarIshay wrote...

flanny wrote...
what so in ME1 Kaiden and Shepard discuss women together then all of sudden they're gay together? that's just stupid.

Again nothing against the idea but i think Separd is defined as straight in the first two game, to change it in the last of the trilogy doesn't make sense 

Also Asari aren't women they have no gender, they're also you know an aliens

Does Shepard always say in ME1 to Kaidan he wants to be with women? Maybe cause I don't play ManShep much, but I don't remeber such a thing. Only Kaidan talked about women. Shepard doesn't have to say anything about that.

You think Shepard is straight because you played him as one. Some people played their Shepard differently. 

Asari are all genetically women. Even if you ignore that fact, they sure look and talk like ones. A gay/bi FemShep will be attracted to her, where straight one won't be. 

I seem to recall them talking about Ashley and Liara, in the way friends would.

I suppose your right about asari in terms of leanings

[Ageless Face]

flanny wrote...
male Shepard romances woman and flirts with women, he does not with men. His general attitude is that he is interested in women.

Also the fact Kaiden can suddenly be gay and makes a move on you despite knowing you're sleeping with a female sort ruins his character, considering i only saved him on virmire because he is Shepard's best friend. It wouldn't have mattered if it was established in ME1 but by ME3 it is too late and just looks stupid

You mean YOUR Shepard flirts with women. Shepard have the possibility to flirt, he doesn't have to.

And why does Kaidan turning gay ruins his character? He's the same man he was, just revealing more of himself. There is nothing stupid about that. And I say that as someone who romanced him as a FemShep.

[Ageless Face]

flanny wrote...
I seem to recall them talking about Ashley and Liara, in the way friends would.

I suppose your right about asari in terms of leanings

Then on this point, like I said, Shepard has the OPTION to talk about his attraction to Liara (there wasn't one for Ashley). But Shepard never had to say he's attracted to her.

[Mavqt]

I don't get why you lot are arguing over Shepards' sexual orientation. I still cant believe people in this day and age agrue over gay relationships and people. Each to there own. Also did they state why they didn't go through with Kaiden being bi in ME1?

Also someone said about Kaiden suddenly turning gay? I have a friend how didn't tell me he was gay for the first year I knew him, it didn't suddenly turn gay. He told me that he waited to tell me when he thought I was ready for the news. he knew I'm straight, I'm guessing he had bad reaction to telling past friends about it.

Edit: Grammar.

Modifié par mavqt, 12 juillet 2012 - 02:57 .

[Ageless Face]

mavqt wrote...

I don't get why you lot are arguing over Shepards' sexual orientation. I still cant believe people in this day and age agrue over gay relationships and people. Each to there own. Also did they state why they didn't go through with kaiden being bi in ME1?

Also someone said abotu Kaiden suddenly turning gay? I have a friend how didn't tell me he was gay for the first year I knew him, it didn't suddenly turned gay, he told me that he waited to tell me when he thought i was ready for the news. he knew I'm straight im guessing he had bad reaction to telling past friends about it.

Think that settles the discussion about Kaidan "turning" bi. :innocent:

[Phydeaux314]

Hehehehe.

"Remember, Kaidan, I saw her first."

[Vigilant111]

flanny wrote...

Vigilant111 wrote...

flanny wrote...

what so in ME1 Kaiden and Shepard discuss women together then all of sudden they're gay together? that's just stupid.

Again nothing against the idea but i think Separd is defined as straight in the first two game, to change it in the last of the trilogy doesn't make sense 

Also Asari aren't women they have no gender, they're also you know an aliens

Define the word "defined" please

male Shepard romances woman and flirts with women, he does not with men. His general attitude is that he is interested in women.

Also the fact Kaiden can suddenly be gay and makes a move on you despite knowing you're sleeping with a female sort ruins his character, considering i only saved him on virmire because he is Shepard's best friend. It wouldn't have mattered if it was established in ME1 but by ME3 it is too late and just looks stupid

Have you heard of closeted gays? and why does Shepard have to flirt with women? My Shepard doesn't flirt with anyone, he knows where the line is

Second paragraph, that is just a bug thing where BW didn't know who you romanced...why are you so bothered by this? WTF cares? Just say no like other people do

Modifié par Vigilant111, 12 juillet 2012 - 03:09 .

[Transairion]

There's more F/F stuff (counting Asari of course) because this is a game for boys and men, and boys and men usually like watching women do each other.

Of course I played a MaleShep and chose the Mystery Box romance of Tali... what is under there?! (A photoshopped image).

[EnvyTB075]

Phydeaux314 wrote...
Garrus' extreme awkwardness bothered me, a bit. It definitely fit his character, and it was incredibly well done - I just didn't enjoy as much. I liked how... direct... Liara was in the first game, and watching her develop as a character throughout the series was wonderful. The whole "Shepard, I'm... interested in you" line was awkward, too, but
simply because she was violating my social expectations of behavior,
not because of a huge amount of personal embarassment. I thought it was
adorable, and, well, things went on from there. With Garrus I just wanted to say "GO HUG HER YOU BIG TURIAN OAF, SHE'S HURTING, SHE LOVES YOU, AND SHE NEEDS A FRIEND."

It's the same reason I'm not a huge fan of most romantic movies - they
generally involve people miscommunicating and suffering for it. I take a fairly direct approach with people. I don't enjoy stories where the central conflict falls apart if the protagonist and antagonist could talk all their problems out over a cup of coffee in five minutes. They just strike me as silly. Now, I understand why people act like that, I just don't enjoy watching people hurt themselves - or the people they care about - because of it.

I couldn't stand Liaras voice and her lines, always stating the obvious and being so overly melodramatic it made me sick....and that was in ME1/2, ME3 was just....i want to stab bunnies for it.

But Garrus' lack of companionship in ME3 i'd put down to laziness on BW's part. So much could have, no, SHOULD have been done, like why the hell would a Garrus romancing Shepard be so torn about Thessia over Palaven? I mean really?! Why does Liara try to comfort Garrus after Menae? WHY CAN'T SHEPARD DO THAT?!

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 13 juillet 2012 - 04:37 .

[The Twilight God]

Flog61 wrote...

Hello guys

I wondered whether you thought the female/female romances or the male/male romances were handled better in the three games.

By this I mean who did you think were the best options for them. Were the F/F romances more interesting/more provided for  than M/M, and vice versa.

F/F will take into account: Liara (yes, she is female, so shep would be considered a lesbian if she romanced her), Kelly, (Samara/Morinth), Samantha, Diana Allers

M/M will take into account: Kaidan, Cortez

My opinion is that, while the M/M kaidan romance is very well done, I do feel it is a bit unfair that they only got 2 as opposed to F/F's 4, and so the gay broshep's had the short end of the romance stick.

Kaiden wasn't handled too well. Him just up and turning gay and thinking I was gay to was kinda absurd. This isn't DA2. Everyone isn't bi in this universe. He ony makes sense if you never romanced any female character or there was something before to hint that you might be gay and interested. There was nothing.

Cortez was done well. You got to establish that you were straight and he became a kinda bromance. Not of the Garrus proportions, but still. And Shepard gets to initiate the flirting.

From what I see of youtube Traynors romances seesm a bit rushed. Hey, how bout you get naked and shower with the door open? I think I'l join you.

Liara romanc ein ME1 is kinda rushed. In ME3 it makes more sense. Regardless, I still think the ME1 romance is OK athough more about Shep wanted to bang alien chicks than genuine emotion and feelings. LotSB, imo, shows that it became more kinda validate the ME1 romance. In contrast Ashley's was done alittle better in 1 than Liara, but you had other comments beforehand that showed there was some sexual tension (on the citadel). She's more playfully obvious about it before she lays it on you. More gradual and less abrupt than ME1 Liara romance.

Kelly's is good. Lots of flirting at a good pace. In ME3 she looks like the weight of her head is smashing her face. Ugh! Very pretty in 2 and fugly in 3.

Allers is just a secret 1 night stand. It's not a romance.

Modifié par The Twilight God, 13 juillet 2012 - 05:02 .

[Ryzaki]

The amount of people who don't know the difference between gay and bisexual is damned painful.
And the DA2 reference is utterly idiotic. Oh yes 2 male bi LIs means all of the male LIs are bi. Silly me *rolls eyes*

[JBONE29]

Flog61 wrote...

JBONE29 wrote...

Two things.

1. I don't count Samara/Morinth as a romance because Samara doesn't even kiss you, and Morinth kills you if your try anything.

2. Both of the M/M romances are full romances whereas Kelly and Allers (again not counting S/M... unintended pun, but I'm leaving it in) you basically get a single line, and I don't think either of them get the bed scene.

That said, yeah, the more options the better.

I appreciate what you say, but i would still appreciate a couple of minor M/M romances

I think you missed the last part where I said, "The more options the better."  I'm not saying there shouldn't be any more M/M romances, I'm saying there should be more in general (honestly I thought Thane would make a good LI for male Shep).

[Psychlonus]

Shep in a same-sex relationship negates the greatest scene in video game history: the scene where he invites Liara and Ash to a menage-a-trois. That scene should be canon.