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[NOD-INFORMER37]

It'd be nice if the fans stopped attacking and labeling each other for once.

[Doug4130]

they did all this for us. That's what sets them apart from the rest

[Feirefiz1972]

KevShep wrote...

Why cant they just release a "Indoctrination Extended Cut" to give the VAST majority of anti-ingame-ending people what we want and be able to please everyone?

Why do'nt people ask bands to change there music more to the liking of the masses? Or to change the ending of a movie or a novel? Ask an artist to change his paintings more to the liking of the general public? Its like asking them to sell out their soul, their moment of inspiration. Compromising on one's inspiration only leads to mediocracy. I know i would not do it. You see, there i some truth in the artistic integrity argument. It is almost like compromising on a principle. You either may or may not like the ending, but you can hardly demand that they will change it.

Modifié par Feirefiz1972, 13 juillet 2012 - 12:39 .

[Gnaeus.Silvanus]

Can we get (give) a huge thank you to Bioware?

Thank you Bioware!

[Lee80]

I'm thankful for a lot of the things Bioware has done with this game series, but I'm also angry about some things they have done in the name of "balance" and "artistic integrity".

Thanks for all the good stuff...still hoping you undo some of the horrible balance changes in MP...

[Genetic Destiny]

Thank you for the game. I had hours of fun.

[dmay7]

Thank you so much Bioware. I, MYSELF enjoyed Mass Effect 3 and the EC, as much as Mass Effect 2, and Mass Effect 1. Don't care who hates or trolls, I only care about my personal enjoyment, and not others enjoyments. If you enjoyed ME3, then that is awesome, if you didn't, then whatever. I will not be swayed by other peoples opinions. I will only be swayed by my own experience in the 200+ hours I have poured into this universe, it's DLC's, it's books, it's documentaries, and everything else ME related. I look forward to purchasing future ME and Bioware products. Thank you Bioware.

[spirosz]

I thank them for their earlier works of "art" (ahaha), but not this one, sorry.

[C9316]

Yes thank you Bioware for making the game almost unplayable for the first few weeks due to the fact that facial importing was damn near impossible. Thank you for giving us a crappy journal system, thank you for completely making all of our past choices meaningless, thank you for making ME3 even less role playing with the addition of extreme amounts of auto dialogue. Thank you for the completely linear experience, thank you for all the MP dlc even though most of us are here for the single player aspect, and thank you for the artistic integrity you call endings.

[spirosz]

Final Fantasy 13 Fangirl wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...

I thank them for their earlier works of "art" (ahaha), but not this one, sorry.

Sure ME3 pales in comparison to an amazing game like ME2, but you got to understand that it is still a very good game regardless. I mean, why else would you play it?

I would play it for the replayability, like the other games they've made - ME3,  none.  I'm not going to thank them with how their PR department treats fans too.  

[mwags85]

They destroyed the lore of the Reapers for me. The premise of the ending is still garbage and overall is the main reason I hated it to begin with and they did nothing to fix or change it in the Extended Cut. Here's your overall game premise, everything Shepard fought for boils down to this: "We harvest organics to make way for new life?" What a bunch of BS. I just found the explanation of the Reapers not only unnecessary, but also very poorly executed: and Deus Ex Machina is, in my opinion, the poorest plot twist you can find in any story and is only a blatant proof for a severe lack in imagination. It's the easy and worst way out in a story. Bioware, you failed to end this amazing series in style. You got sloppy and lazy and it really shows. I still feel very cheated with everything you promised and still failed to deliver on. Sorry to say I'm not looking forward to anything you have coming out and I won't be purchasing any future DLC as none of the major decisions I made in the series seemed to come to fruition at the end anyway...aka: saving Rachni Queen, gathering the Mercenaries, Elchor walking tanks, etc. I even tried playing again after the Extended Cut came out, but I've lost all enthusiasm. The thrill is gone. So no thanks to Bioware from me.

[mwags85]

JudgeOverdose wrote...

To answer the title question: Not from me.

The EC was damage control; if you have studied marketing with any degree of depth, you'll know that. I am not going to thank a company for releasing a partially finished and underexplained game, and then trying to retain me as a customer because I realized I bought a faulty product that didn't live up to the executive producer's promises. This game was easily worth $30, and (in my opinion) not a cent more. It does not live up to the name BioWare built for itself, and seems to be a sign of things to come from this company.

As customers, we owe nothing to the companies who manufacture (or retail) the things we buy. When we give them our money in exchange for their products, both of us are supposed to be made better off. This company made off with my money, and did not live up to its promises, as such I have a right to be displeased with them. I can't lay it out in any simpler terms; you might be sick of hearing it, but it is a very logical reaction given the situation. Call it what you want, and label me however you like, but that is where things stand for me.

Coudn't agree more!!!  When you break the game down as a whole (and being very nit picky here) and compare it to the amount of content, the plot, and the storyline tagent side questing in both ME1 and ME2, ME3 was very poorly executed for the all the hype that was drummed up by the Bioware team.   

[mwags85]

Doug4130 wrote...

they did all this for us. That's what sets them apart from the rest

They did this for damage control.  We held a loaded gun to their head so to speak, fix the endings or else.  It's business and they pissed off a vast majority of their fan base. 

[AlexMBrennan]

Bioware was forced to make the EC and offer it for free by market forces. As such, thanking them for it makes about as much sense as thanking a victim in a mugging for handing over their cash.

Bioware is forced to make free MP DLC because the game heavily relies on operant conditioning; unlike Blizzard, however, Bioware didn't think matters through and decided to have a finite pool of unlockables (you can always find a better weapon because affixed are random, but one you got the Widow X you're done - thus Bioware has to keep introducing new weapons and characters).

[cf number of people complaining about missile usage in wave 11 - if you only play for the credits, you're not enjoying the game]

[Asch Lavigne]

I just hope the DA3 team is paying attention to both the mistakes of DA2 and ME3.

Regardless, ME is one of the best series ever so thanks for that.

And a big thank you for creating Garrus!

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 13 juillet 2012 - 07:27 .

[Pyk]

mwags85 wrote...

When you break the game down as a whole (and being very nit picky here) and compare it to the amount of content, the plot, and the storyline tagent side questing in both ME1 and ME2, ME3 was very poorly executed (...)

You know, it's hard to measure artistic value by simply reducing the game to number of dialogues, side quests or hours of gameplay. Here's my very very short comparison of ME1-3 emphasizing the best features of each.

mwags85 wrote...

Doug4130 wrote...

they did all this for us. That's what sets them apart from the rest

They did this for damage control.  We held a loaded gun to their head so to speak, fix the endings or else.  It's business and they pissed off a vast majority of their fan base. 

YES, they sell games for actual money and it's seriously for real! They feed their families with it!
But does any of you find it troubling that a physician, policeman and firefighter get money for their work?
But still, you thank them for caring about you, because that's what civilised people do.
ME3 was rushed, released too soon, agreed, but the EC made things right again and it was for free.
BW listened to the fans and that's what makes them a good company.

Moreover, what people thank them for is the fun they delivered, vast and living universe they liked for so many years, well-told story. That's something hardly measurable even if it's still just a computer game.

I guess everyone's fair now: we bought it, didn't like it, so they improved it for free. It's more than we could expect.
IMHO everyone should be happy now and thankful for each other. It's a happy ending after all!
Thank you for that: both BW and BSN <3

Modifié par Pyk, 13 juillet 2012 - 07:57 .

[Arsenic Touch]

Amusing to see people praising the microtransaction grabs, ahem, free mp dlc and basing their opinion on that. Without realizing that they couldn't have charged for it if they wanted to given the randomness of the items involved (people would raise hell about being ripped off and not being able to use any of the new classes/weapons) and the fact that not everyone would even bother paying for it so their matchmaking system would be screwed to hell with some users having one map and other users having another.

[AlexMBrennan]

they couldn't have charged for it if they wanted to given the randomness of the items involved

Yet no one complained about the random unlocks for non-base classes and items in the vanilla game... oh wait, we did complain and Bioware just ignored it.

[mmmu]

They definitely get a thank you from me. A big warm thank you.

[Aurelia Emenuidros]

As corny as it sounds, I thank BioWare from the bottom of my heart. I never got a chance to enjoy such a wonderful game until it came out for PS3. I will never forgive Microsoft for not letting me play the first game and make the choices I wanted (but I still have to thank for the Dark Horse comic prequel). So thanks BioWare.

I'm really enjoying the games so much. I don't care what anyone thinks about the endings, they're even better thanks to the EC. I'm no complainer like nearly everyone else. I think you did a fantastic job to give me an amazing experience.

Hopefully we'll see more games in the distant future.

[deatharmonic]

Pyk wrote...

YES, they sell games for actual money and it's seriously for real! They feed their families with it!
But does any of you find it troubling that a physician, policeman and firefighter get money for their work?
But still, you thank them for caring about you, because that's what civilised people do.
ME3 was rushed, released too soon, agreed, but the EC made things right again and it was for free.
BW listened to the fans and that's what makes them a good company.

Ugh, seriously? Physicians, policemen and firefighters save peoples lives... Bioware make games. It's totally your business if you want to say thanks, but using examples like that? c'mon now.

[Pyk]

deatharmonic wrote...

Physicians, policemen and firefighters save peoples lives... Bioware make games.

Okay, bad example. I used to thank my teachers after every lesson.
I say "thank you, goodbye" when I leave a grocery store.
It's the way I express my gratitude for someone who's doing what (s)he's supposed to right.
Because everyone likes to know their work is appreciated. It makes people happy face.

[Roenik]

I love ME and the universe and characters Bioware has created.

Looking forward to Leviathan and retaking Omega as Aria (I hope