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[Abispa]

I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that the hanar had a mistress.

[Seifer006]

liara. she sucks

Greatest Character(s) - Wrex Grunt Zaeed
Greatest Villain(s) - TIM & Harbinger

[naes1984]

grey_wind wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Anvos wrote...

James Vega

There was absolutly no reason to randomly throw in an entirely new squad mate this deep into shepard's story. Honestly I might have found as much use out of the secruity chief from the citadel as a squad mate as I did him.

How is he not believable?

It is actually quite believeable that you might have someone new on the Normandy and some of your previous companions are off doing their own things. People just don't tend to like Vega. I thought he was ok.

Just because it was believable doesn't make it good storytelling.

Agreed. I would replace Allers and Vega and Cortez and Javik and Traynor with ME2 characters but my only point is that it is believeable. 

[syllogi]

The only thing I found "unbelievable" about Vega was his odd spanglish. Bilingual people don't simply throw random words from their native language into conversation. It would have been cool to hear Freddie Prinze Jr. voice a few sentences in spanish (maybe with Cortez...), but his manner of speaking just took me out of the game and made me think of some writer somewhere who really, really needed to consult with actual spanish speakers before finishing Vega's dialogue.

[stargatefan1990]

Seifer006 wrote...

liara. she sucks

Greatest Character(s) - Wrex Grunt Zaeed
Greatest Villain(s) - TIM & Harbinger

I really like Liara, maybe because she's my Canon playthrough LI but i do understand some peoples complaints about her

[LegionofRannoch]

Mr.House wrote...

TheShadowWolf911 wrote...

Dusen wrote...

Frankly, a lot of characters experienced some form of character assassination. Whether it be Ashley's sudden love for high heels and miniskirts, Udina's backstabbing betrayels, TIM's retardation or Shepard's fixation on a meaningless child's death and his sudden lack of a spine or memory (how does he forget about peace between the geth and quarians at the very moment where it counts?) while confronting the enemy at the end. It's honestly hard to pick one.

wait, Didn't Ashley say in the first game you wouldn't be getting her into thigh high boots and miniskirts?

THEY CONTRADICTED HER!

No. She says the only way would be getting her dinner first.

her rank changed and so did her "outfit" shes lieutenant commander williams, shes respectable now..?

[bleetman]

Vega was doing better for me until he started staring at Shepard's breasts whilst she was having a conversation with him. "Don't treat your commanding officer like sweater meat" seems like the kind of thing they'd cover in boot camp.

[ADLegend21]

Dusen wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

TheShadowWolf911 wrote...

Dusen wrote...

Frankly, a lot of characters experienced some form of character assassination. Whether it be Ashley's sudden love for high heels and miniskirts, Udina's backstabbing betrayels, TIM's retardation or Shepard's fixation on a meaningless child's death and his sudden lack of a spine or memory (how does he forget about peace between the geth and quarians at the very moment where it counts?) while confronting the enemy at the end. It's honestly hard to pick one.

wait, Didn't Ashley say in the first game you wouldn't be getting her into thigh high boots and miniskirts?

THEY CONTRADICTED HER!

No. She says the only way would be getting her dinner first.

In all seriousness though, they really did assassinate her character.

How? She had questions for Shepard after shepard worked for Cerberus when Cerberus had inside access to an alliance facility. She cared about her family's safety sincce they were on Earth and she defended the council even against Shepard who appaeared to be a threat to their safety, part of a Spectre's job is to protect the counci. She did her job no matter what, stayed an Alliance soldier through and through, and cared about her family. That's ashley's character. you wanna talk about character assasination, look at Jacob Taylor and Thane Krios.

[naes1984]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Dusen wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

TheShadowWolf911 wrote...

Dusen wrote...

Frankly, a lot of characters experienced some form of character assassination. Whether it be Ashley's sudden love for high heels and miniskirts, Udina's backstabbing betrayels, TIM's retardation or Shepard's fixation on a meaningless child's death and his sudden lack of a spine or memory (how does he forget about peace between the geth and quarians at the very moment where it counts?) while confronting the enemy at the end. It's honestly hard to pick one.

wait, Didn't Ashley say in the first game you wouldn't be getting her into thigh high boots and miniskirts?

THEY CONTRADICTED HER!

No. She says the only way would be getting her dinner first.

In all seriousness though, they really did assassinate her character.

How? She had questions for Shepard after shepard worked for Cerberus when Cerberus had inside access to an alliance facility. She cared about her family's safety sincce they were on Earth and she defended the council even against Shepard who appaeared to be a threat to their safety, part of a Spectre's job is to protect the counci. She did her job no matter what, stayed an Alliance soldier through and through, and cared about her family. That's ashley's character. you wanna talk about character assasination, look at Jacob Taylor and Thane Krios.

I understand Jacob (with knocking up that woman) but what about Thane? He seemed like he had a decent character arc with his son and dying heroically. Then again I've never romanced him.

Modifié par naes1984, 12 juillet 2012 - 02:37 .

[spirosz]

Liara, oh I went there.

<3

Modifié par spiros9110, 12 juillet 2012 - 02:36 .

[Sousabird]

Diana or Kai Leng

[Casticus]

Sousabird wrote...

Diana or Kai Leng

This is not the most hated character thread.

[fr33stylez]

naes1984 wrote...


"What I found amazing is how Cerberus raised a super army made up of cilivians and refugees and somehow made them into huskified snipers, engineers, and experienced tacticians on the battlefield. That was amazing."



Not only that but they did it in 6 months between ME2 and ME3. Remember that at the end of ME2, EDI tells you exactly how large Cerberus is and it is no more than a half a dozen task oriented cells that the Illusive Man can supervise personally. I think the way they handled Cerberus was pretty botched in ME3 because they lose their ambiguity. In the 1st game they are bad guys. In the 2nd game you find that maybe there's more to them. In the third game you find out Nope they were 100X worse than you thought.

I call that ADD writing. As you said Shepard went from killing evil Cerberus members in ME1, to being shoehorned into working for them in ME2 after Shepard's 'resurrection' (because they're not so bad!), and then you find out Shepard was indeed a moron after all in ME3 for working for Cerberus.

And they had to drag Udina down in ME3 too.

[naes1984]

Casticus wrote...

Sousabird wrote...

Diana or Kai Leng

This is not the most hated character thread.

Though in all fairness, Kai Leng is not a believeable character.

[Dusen]

naes1984 wrote...


"What I found amazing is how Cerberus raised a super army made up of cilivians and refugees and somehow made them into huskified snipers, engineers, and experienced tacticians on the battlefield. That was amazing."



Not only that but they did it in 6 months between ME2 and ME3. Remember that at the end of ME2, EDI tells you exactly how large Cerberus is and it is no more than a half a dozen task oriented cells that the Illusive Man can supervise personally. I think the way they handled Cerberus was pretty botched in ME3 because they lose their ambiguity. In the 1st game they are bad guys. In the 2nd game you find that maybe there's more to them. In the third game you find out Nope they were 100X worse than you thought.

What's worse is that in one of the recent books/comics Cerberus was all but wiped out by the Turians.

[DiebytheSword]

Kai Leng was a poorly constructed character, I'd say Javik was the least believable based on his species extinction. That doesn't change the fact that he was one of my favorites.

[Casticus]

naes1984 wrote...

Casticus wrote...

Sousabird wrote...

Diana or Kai Leng

This is not the most hated character thread.

Though in all fairness, Kai Leng is not a believeable character.

I think his actions are believable. He's just a ridiculously cliched, anime-esque, cut scene god, which makes him a bad character. Nothing he does is necessarily out of character.

[o Ventus]

Casticus wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Casticus wrote...

Sousabird wrote...

Diana or Kai Leng

This is not the most hated character thread.

Though in all fairness, Kai Leng is not a believeable character.

I think his actions are believable. He's just a ridiculously cliched, anime-esque, cut scene god, which makes him a bad character. Nothing he does is necessarily out of character.

His little temper tantrum during the fight on Cronos station.

[Casticus]

o Ventus wrote...

Casticus wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Casticus wrote...

Sousabird wrote...

Diana or Kai Leng

This is not the most hated character thread.

Though in all fairness, Kai Leng is not a believeable character.

I think his actions are believable. He's just a ridiculously cliched, anime-esque, cut scene god, which makes him a bad character. Nothing he does is necessarily out of character.

His little temper tantrum during the fight on Cronos station.

Part of his character his childishly taunting Shepard. You got the email right?

Regardless, nothing he does is Udina-level stupidity.

Modifié par Casticus, 12 juillet 2012 - 02:47 .

[o Ventus]

Casticus wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Casticus wrote...

naes1984 wrote...

Casticus wrote...

Sousabird wrote...

Diana or Kai Leng

This is not the most hated character thread.

Though in all fairness, Kai Leng is not a believeable character.

I think his actions are believable. He's just a ridiculously cliched, anime-esque, cut scene god, which makes him a bad character. Nothing he does is necessarily out of character.

His little temper tantrum during the fight on Cronos station.

Part of his character his childishly taunting Shepard. You got the email right?

Regardless, nothing he does is Udina-level stupidity.

The email is a bit of a character break for him too. About as bad as the peeing in flower vases.

Modifié par o Ventus, 12 juillet 2012 - 02:48 .

[Taboo]

I can't think of Kai Leng without his response to Shepard taunting him.

"SHUT UP."

Bahahahaha.

[Renmiri1]

Random Jerkface wrote...

KAI LENG.

Kai Lame