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[CronoDragoon]

Kyuhyun wrote...


But... i love Kai Leng. I swear i'm the only one on BSN

I thought he worked fine as a midboss. I definitely wanted to kill him by the end.

[KingZayd]

The Starchild.

[CHALET]

Shepard.

After becoming the first and only Human to join the prestigious Spectres he's brought back to life by a terrorist organisation (after being medically brain dead) he fought against, then given an advanced starship that even its creators aren't replicating, all the while being told that s/he is the only person in the whole galaxy who can stop the cataclysmic threat to all life, whilst solving the issues of every single one of his badass crew and anybody who he speaks to long enough will instantly fall at his feet and jump on his mini-starship.

[Chun Hei]

syllogi wrote...

Chun Hei wrote...

I could go on saying that I grew up in Brooklyn and find your family picture amazing since it is my personal experience that not all Hispanics easily group themselves with different Hispanic populations and can at times have violent rivalries. But it would be arrogance on my part to assume that just because I never witnessed your family that it must therefore be impossible. I do not even claim to be the ultimate authority on who can be a "realistic" Korean American. All I ask is that there are no insulting Korean (Asian) stereotypes if Bioware ever makes such a character.

Regardless I do not want to be drawn into a debate what constitutes a "realistic Hispanic" Vega when one could more easily argue that he was not well developed as an Alliance marine.

  I'm sorry you don't find it believable that different Latino groups are able to get along, and do things like get married to each other or be friends.  My best friends, whom I've been good friends with since high school, are French Guyanese, Dominican, and Vietnamese.  I can't even imagine growing up in NYC and *not* having a very diverse group of friends.  There's really nothing else to say to you than that, because I'm kind of offended by what you're inferring.

That is not what I said  and if it were not such a monstrous misunderstanding of what I meant I would have let it drop. I know different Hispanics get along and get married and have  issues where they agree but I have rarely seen different groups treat each other as part of some monolithic community that you appear to be inferring. I am sorry that you thought I meant to imply that different groups are usually hostile toward each other. I meant only that such difference can and have been violent at times. I am sorry if it sounded like I said that was the norm.

Yes it is impossibly to NOT have at least some friends of various backgrounds in NYC and that it a good thing. But I find it difficult to imagine that anyone in NYC has gone through life never witnessing Hispanics defining themselves and speaking differently based one their family's nation of origin for good and/or ill.

This whole thing started because you have never seen a Hispanic speak like Vega. I said I have. I will take your word for it that you never have but I stand by my original comment that Vega's speech is realistic.

[Chun Hei]

KingZayd wrote...

The Starchild.

Shame on you. 2001: A Space Odyssey and its sequel as well as the second V miniseries have established starchildren with magic powers as a science fiction staple. Not to mention Paul's baby sister in Dune.

[KevShep]

Starchild

[Han Shot First]

I just head canon the Udina coup as 'indoctrination' and call it a day.

It makes more sense than just being motivated by desperation.

[xsdob]

I do not consider starchild a character, so I'd have to go with zaeed, the guy reads like a fanfic RP character made to be super badass.

[Han Shot First]

While I wouldn't necessarily call her the least believable character, I do want to nominate Kasumi for one reason....

Her awful 'ninja' acrobatics during the ending cutscene of her DLC. The Jedi acrobatics on top of a flying gunship was the single worst cutscene in the entire series. Those acrobatics would be fine if Kasumi was a Jedi, and ME2 was Star Wars game. It doesn't work however in Mass Effect, where Kasumi is just a human and doesn't possess any magical powers.

That being said, I do like Kasumi as character. But that cutscene completely annihilates suspension of disbelief.

[Volc19]

TIM became a saturday morning cartoon villain just because
Kai Leng was a space ninja
Udina, reasons stated previously in the thread
The Catalyst... need I say more?
And the Salarian Dalatrass only existed to further motivate the player to cure the genophage, and to demonize the opinion that the Genophage shoudn't be cured.

[darthnick427]

Udina, Kai Leng, and Starchild. That about sums it up here

[Kathleen321]

I think it makes more sense if the Salarian councilor framed him. That councilor is a douche. Udina was a dick but he wasn't evil.

[wright1978]

Brat. The only way i can replay the game is to turn off the sound and try and ignore what is going on whilst that idiotic character is alive or invading my dreams as a ghost.

[AxholeRose]

Udina was a politician. He knew how to play the game. I agree it was totally out of character to make his character do that, he should have been blackmailed or forced in some other way. My renegade Shepard even had a good relationship with him.

[Himo]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Kyuhyun wrote...


But... i love Kai Leng. I swear i'm the only one on BSN

I thought he worked fine as a midboss. I definitely wanted to kill him by the end.

Agreed. Kai Leng should have been a boss fight on the citadel, he serves virtually no purpose after that mission that can't be filled or worked around another way. At the Cerberus Base, you should have had a climactic fight with TIM instead of killing him with a f***ing Renegade Interrupt.

[Chun Hei]

Himo wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Kyuhyun wrote...


But... i love Kai Leng. I swear i'm the only one on BSN

I thought he worked fine as a midboss. I definitely wanted to kill him by the end.

Agreed. Kai Leng should have been a boss fight on the citadel, he serves virtually no purpose after that mission that can't be filled or worked around another way. At the Cerberus Base, you should have had a climactic fight with TIM instead of killing him with a f***ing Renegade Interrupt.

What are you talking about? Everyone knows Shepard sweet talks TIM into blowing his own brains out. That is pretty impressive. I wish I had that power.

[XqctaX]

k well i'll list characters i think didnt fit in
either for beeing out of character or just unbeliveable in themself. *opinions*

Ashley,
i seriously think shes been out of character since me2
and to pull a gun on shep. never. ever something shed do on me1...

udina the traitor.
just cant see him taking this path...
i never liked him or how he was, but i think he was a good character nevertheless

Kai leng.
i loved to hate and even rooted for kai leng in the books at some points
(deception i'll leave out of this cus i hate his entire existens in it. thanks deitz)

in me3 he was just rediculously rediculous, drew made him so much more than
anime swordguy that cowardly runs and claims victory at the same time WTF!


Diana Allers, previous encounters with media make me think,
why is she allowed on the most topsecret spaveship we have?
also she was a waist of space and utterly boring.
and i gotta say the hole twitter killing of a game character is FUBAR. but thats besides the point lol

now this kinda does not count.
but all my squadies were kinda low on dialogue and stale...
but thats a diff topic i guess *grins*

Modifié par XqctaX, 12 juillet 2012 - 10:44 .

[Himo]

Chun Hei wrote...

Himo wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Kyuhyun wrote...


But... i love Kai Leng. I swear i'm the only one on BSN

I thought he worked fine as a midboss. I definitely wanted to kill him by the end.

Agreed. Kai Leng should have been a boss fight on the citadel, he serves virtually no purpose after that mission that can't be filled or worked around another way. At the Cerberus Base, you should have had a climactic fight with TIM instead of killing him with a f***ing Renegade Interrupt.

What are you talking about? Everyone knows Shepard sweet talks TIM into blowing his own brains out. That is pretty impressive. I wish I had that power.

Yeah that is the first Paragon/Renegade check in any of the games m Paragade shep has not made so I never got that. Even so, one of the primary antagonists is killed in a cutscene and not in a boss fight, which makes no sense to me,

[CHALET]

Himo wrote...

Chun Hei wrote...

Himo wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Kyuhyun wrote...


But... i love Kai Leng. I swear i'm the only one on BSN

I thought he worked fine as a midboss. I definitely wanted to kill him by the end.

Agreed. Kai Leng should have been a boss fight on the citadel, he serves virtually no purpose after that mission that can't be filled or worked around another way. At the Cerberus Base, you should have had a climactic fight with TIM instead of killing him with a f***ing Renegade Interrupt.

What are you talking about? Everyone knows Shepard sweet talks TIM into blowing his own brains out. That is pretty impressive. I wish I had that power.

Yeah that is the first Paragon/Renegade check in any of the games m Paragade shep has not made so I never got that. Even so, one of the primary antagonists is killed in a cutscene and not in a boss fight, which makes no sense to me,

He was a proper boss fight before, something akin to a Brute with TIM's vauge trappings, sort of like a bulkier Saren in the first game, but it was deemed - and I quote this - "too video gamey".

[Chun Hei]

Himo wrote...

Chun Hei wrote...

Himo wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Kyuhyun wrote...


But... i love Kai Leng. I swear i'm the only one on BSN

I thought he worked fine as a midboss. I definitely wanted to kill him by the end.

Agreed. Kai Leng should have been a boss fight on the citadel, he serves virtually no purpose after that mission that can't be filled or worked around another way. At the Cerberus Base, you should have had a climactic fight with TIM instead of killing him with a f***ing Renegade Interrupt.

What are you talking about? Everyone knows Shepard sweet talks TIM into blowing his own brains out. That is pretty impressive. I wish I had that power.

Yeah that is the first Paragon/Renegade check in any of the games m Paragade shep has not made so I never got that. Even so, one of the primary antagonists is killed in a cutscene and not in a boss fight, which makes no sense to me,

Yeah. But at that point I had spent over an hour blasting my way through Cerberus base and Earth so I appreciated that there was no real conflict after the missle launcher guantlet. The length of the ending from that point did seem odd I will admit. Almost had a LotR3 feel to it mixed with some Matrix sequel.

[JBPBRC]

I agree with the OP.

Udina was ruthless, callous and pragmatic, but he wasn't stupid. Well, until ME3. A horrible character assassination, one of many. Is this what they meant when they said they could have the freedom to go all out and not worry about continuing decisions because it was the end of the trilogy? Shooting Udina? When the Rachni and Collector Base are so poorly handled? Sickening.

Despite this, Kai Leng tops Udina and even the Starchild in terms of credibility. Kai Leng as "The Rival" to Shepard was abhorrent, and failed in every way possible.

With Starchild the excuse can be used that he is a direct vehicle for Bioware to try and hamfistedly explain the absurd last-minute plot twist. Kai Leng is just stupid throughout, with no such excuse, and further cements the "GRRRR. CERBERUS BAD. SHEPARD SMASH!" mentality.

[MegaSovereign]

Liara is the least believable character.

106 year old virgin?....pfff yea right.

[Anvos]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Liara is the least believable character.

106 year old virgin?....pfff yea right.

Well considering her mother was one of the most powerful and influential asari, people knew her other parent was asari, and she chose a scholarly life before she got involved with shepard, it isn't that far off of acceptable. 

Also don't asari only leave home around 60-70 years old.

Modifié par Anvos, 13 juillet 2012 - 02:10 .