Tealjaker94 wrote...
IT was bad. I'm glad Bioware didn't use it.
QFT!!!
IT is a great fanfic....but i didnt wanna see it in game
I hate to burst your bubble Guys...
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 03:46
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QFT!!!
IT is a great fanfic....but i didnt wanna see it in game
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 03:47
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Personally, IT could work wonders. Bioware failed. They decided it was beneath them.
When their own writer admits they had no clear idea of how to end the series, it proves they were out of their depth. Honestly, anyone with half a brain and played ME and ME 2 more then five times would have had a great idea for an ending that tied in with epic RPGs.
Four simple things were missing:
-Suicide Mission that incorporated all ME, ME 2, and ME 3 characters
-Boss Fight with Harbinger because we didn't kill him in ME 2
-Proto-Human Reaper Answered or solved. Perhaps with showing the original race Harbinger was created from in a scary 'suspended' monster that perhaps looks like the Reaper Dreadnoughts.
-A cool superweapon that unleashed a 'virus' into the Reaper form based off of their own codes that destroys them from the inside; gives control to a Shepard ultimately allying with Cerberus; or finding a loop hole in the coding that creates a Synthesis. Perhaps this Catalyst could have been Harbinger and the superweapon's detonator required to be linked to it.
So yeah, Bioware dropped the ball. Wish I could have helped and told them, really? This is the ending, lets go for this...sigh.
When their own writer admits they had no clear idea of how to end the series, it proves they were out of their depth. Honestly, anyone with half a brain and played ME and ME 2 more then five times would have had a great idea for an ending that tied in with epic RPGs.
Four simple things were missing:
-Suicide Mission that incorporated all ME, ME 2, and ME 3 characters
-Boss Fight with Harbinger because we didn't kill him in ME 2
-Proto-Human Reaper Answered or solved. Perhaps with showing the original race Harbinger was created from in a scary 'suspended' monster that perhaps looks like the Reaper Dreadnoughts.
-A cool superweapon that unleashed a 'virus' into the Reaper form based off of their own codes that destroys them from the inside; gives control to a Shepard ultimately allying with Cerberus; or finding a loop hole in the coding that creates a Synthesis. Perhaps this Catalyst could have been Harbinger and the superweapon's detonator required to be linked to it.
So yeah, Bioware dropped the ball. Wish I could have helped and told them, really? This is the ending, lets go for this...sigh.
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 03:49
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While Indoctrination Theory is/was an awesome idea, it isn't happening.
I think that ME3 is still one of the best games I've ever played, even with the terrible ending, and while not perfect, the EC answers alot of questions for me. My only gripe is why they couldn't just have done this from the start instead of releasing the game apparently unfinished? If the EC was the ending and not a fix to an apparent rush job, I think there wouldn't be such an outrage or at least as much of an outrage (from myself aswell).
I think that ME3 is still one of the best games I've ever played, even with the terrible ending, and while not perfect, the EC answers alot of questions for me. My only gripe is why they couldn't just have done this from the start instead of releasing the game apparently unfinished? If the EC was the ending and not a fix to an apparent rush job, I think there wouldn't be such an outrage or at least as much of an outrage (from myself aswell).
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 03:50
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As a person who didn't care for Skyrim, I'm offended that you would compare ME3 to it. But that's just me.
I don't like it when people make up crazy theories. I do like fan-made endings and trailers, though.
I don't like it when people make up crazy theories. I do like fan-made endings and trailers, though.
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 03:50
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\\SergeantSnookie wrote...
BSN never gonna give IT up,
Never gonna let IT down,
Never gonna run around and,
Desert IT.
+1 internet
and /thread...
good night folks.
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 03:51
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Simply read my post, it´s hard to explain something when you all without reading say that IT was fanfic, no it wasn´t BioWare made this on purpose and IT was best explanation which fans made.
... once again - look into Final Hours of Mass Effect 3...
... once again - look into Final Hours of Mass Effect 3...
#32
Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 03:52
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An 8?
That's way too high on a 10 scale. 8 maybe right up until the boy of light starts talking.
And then you need negative numbers....
That's way too high on a 10 scale. 8 maybe right up until the boy of light starts talking.
And then you need negative numbers....
#33
Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 03:59
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Xemnas07 wrote...
arial wrote...
..this is not gonna end well...
eh, as long as they just stop, accept the terrible writing, and move on so that we can JUST FREAKING enjoy all the perfection that this trilogy is PRE-ENDING
isnt is weird how easy it is to ignore the crucible when you play ME3?
first 95% of game: who cares about the crucible?
last five minutes: oh, the crucible is important?
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#34
Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 04:12
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Xemnas07 wrote...
is now only worth $30 4 months after release, while Skyrim is STILL $60.
it's still 60 on origin
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 04:14
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SergeantSnookie wrote...
BSN never gonna give IT up,
Never gonna let IT down,
Never gonna run around and,
Desert IT.
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 04:23
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how about no one provokes anyone.........except Bioware, its fun to see their reactions when someone calls them out.
#38
Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 04:31
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EC deliberately preserved IT...Xemnas07 wrote...
But IT is dead. BW was obviously not the geniuses we gave them credit for, and they couldnt pull of the biggest, most intelligent and awe inspiring mind warp in gaming history. So please, stop. EC puts it to rest. BW failed, and made a perfect 10 game that could compete with Skyrim into an average 8 game that is now only worth $30 4 months after release, while Skyrim is STILL $60. We were grasping at straws trying to save our favorite game and trilogy, but face it; it was just bad writing and the inconsistencies and plot holes are just that; inconsistencies and plot holes.
It is a legitimate way to interpret the ending...
Deckard is a replicant, Quaid is still in Rekall, and Shepard is fighting indoctrination...
Modifié par Bill Casey, 12 juillet 2012 - 04:33 .
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 04:52
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Bill Casey wrote...
Deckard is a replicant, Quaid is still in Rekall, and Shepard is fighting indoctrination...
DISAGREE
WHAT??!!!
UM...........whah?
Modifié par corporal doody, 12 juillet 2012 - 04:54 .
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 04:55
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Xemnas07 wrote...
But IT is dead. BW was obviously not the geniuses we gave them credit for, and they couldnt pull of the biggest, most intelligent and awe inspiring mind warp in gaming history. So please, stop. EC puts it to rest. BW failed, and made a perfect 10 game that could compete with Skyrim into an average 8 game that is now only worth $30 4 months after release, while Skyrim is STILL $60. We were grasping at straws trying to save our favorite game and trilogy, but face it; it was just bad writing and the inconsistencies and plot holes are just that; inconsistencies and plot holes.
i guess thats you're opinion.
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 04:56
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Games are for entertainment.... my hands down favorite game Unreal Tournament 3 for the PS3 costs $5 at gamestop. The story is horrible, the script is terrible, the voice acting is cheap and cheasy, but the game itself is incredibly fun and encourages modding (player made mods is even advertised on the games case). The graphics are also great.
It doesn't matter how much a game costs, how great the story line/ending is. What matters is if you had fun, it entertained you, and you experienced it. I got my copy of me3 at the midnight launch, and I would not have had it any other way now knowing the ending and writing of it.
It was the entire zen of the game and experience that mattered.
It doesn't matter how much a game costs, how great the story line/ending is. What matters is if you had fun, it entertained you, and you experienced it. I got my copy of me3 at the midnight launch, and I would not have had it any other way now knowing the ending and writing of it.
It was the entire zen of the game and experience that mattered.
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 04:58
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Quit saying that the IT is dead and spouting it as fact. It is not fact. It is your opinion. As was said, EC preserved the interpretation of IT. Now, whether or not they are going to provide gameplay to recognize the theory is another matter entirely.
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 05:00
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Just because I haven't been able to post it in awhile.
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 05:15
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Why do people want the Indoctrination Theory? That would be even less satisfying than what we have now, IMO.
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 05:24
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BrysonC wrote...
Why do people want the Indoctrination Theory? That would be even less satisfying than what we have now, IMO.
First of all, because it makes sense. What we have now contradicts ME1 plot and ME lore in general.
Second it is based on ME lore and thus not a bad idea. It's also a great plot twist
But yeah, all the people who want to save the universe and want their choices to be reflected in the end are screwed.
I think those are the people who don't like the IT in general.
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 05:26
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So, If I choose to believe IT, simply because I like how it has evidence within the game, BUT it also has counter evidence to disprove it, I'm somehow wrong?
If I choose to ignore or gloss over a weakness or plothole in the story for the sake of enjoying it, how am I wrong?
I'm not allowed to believe what I want with my money and accept the things I choose from this game and discard the rest? I wasn't aware that someone else fronted the money with the caveat that I must think like they do in all things related. (Personally, I'd take Steve Miller's advice and "Take the money and run.")
No matter what the truth and the only truth is proclaimed to be, the reference point is grounded in fiction to start with... I reserve the irrefutable right to reject this fiction-based-logic and substitute whatever I choose to believe, because it IS a work of FICTION.
From this viewpoint, I support both IT and Pro-Enders, because it is the ending YOU want. Bioware can claim it as their own, but they need an audience (and by extension, money) to be validated.
Also, history has shown many writers stumble upon greatness rather than think it through, i.e how is a raven like a desk, the answer 42...
And at least they didn't rewrite a memorable scene so Shepard shot second. >.>
If I choose to ignore or gloss over a weakness or plothole in the story for the sake of enjoying it, how am I wrong?
I'm not allowed to believe what I want with my money and accept the things I choose from this game and discard the rest? I wasn't aware that someone else fronted the money with the caveat that I must think like they do in all things related. (Personally, I'd take Steve Miller's advice and "Take the money and run.")
No matter what the truth and the only truth is proclaimed to be, the reference point is grounded in fiction to start with... I reserve the irrefutable right to reject this fiction-based-logic and substitute whatever I choose to believe, because it IS a work of FICTION.
From this viewpoint, I support both IT and Pro-Enders, because it is the ending YOU want. Bioware can claim it as their own, but they need an audience (and by extension, money) to be validated.
Also, history has shown many writers stumble upon greatness rather than think it through, i.e how is a raven like a desk, the answer 42...
And at least they didn't rewrite a memorable scene so Shepard shot second. >.>
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 05:29
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BrysonC wrote...
Why do people want the Indoctrination Theory? That would be even less satisfying than what we have now, IMO.
Ultimately I think the big appeal of IT is that it gives Bioware a second chance to give as a REAL second ending that actually is consistant with the themes and lore of the universe.
For what it's worth, I don't think Bioware is humble enough or willing enough to take the artistic "out" that IT is offering them and it's a damn shame. While I now think IT is false based on what I am seeing now, I also think it was almost true. That is I strongly suspect that Shepard was supposed to either have been indoctrinated or had to fight it off at some point in the game, and Bioware couldn't make it work....but they didn't remove all the clues leading up to it. JIMHO.
-Polaris
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 05:30
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Xemnas07 wrote...
...and imo, pre-ending the game [ME3] was THE best game ive ever played
ME3 (minus the ending) is the best game you've ever played? Really? Heh, I feel sorry for you.
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 05:36
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Some people feel a demonic need to control what other people think. You know, like darwinists, socialists*, and the global warming scammers.DocGriffin wrote...
Or, or, we could continue to let people have whatever interpretations of a video game they want, and not try to incite arguments!
(* - at least, in the states they do)
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Posté 12 juillet 2012 - 05:40
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I don't care if it's real or not. What I care about is the fact that BioWare pussed out and didn't confirm it nor deny it. I actually was hoping they would flat out deny it in the EC, that way most of the speculations would die. But of course, they love them speculations.
EDIT: And this whole "IT is dead" trend that keeps going is useless. We'll never know whether or not BioWare was ever intending on such an ending. There's a lot of evidence to support and go against IT so I don't even see the point in trying to **** on anyone elses parade. Let the Indoctrination Theorists enjoy they're interpretation and we can enjoy ours.
EDIT: And this whole "IT is dead" trend that keeps going is useless. We'll never know whether or not BioWare was ever intending on such an ending. There's a lot of evidence to support and go against IT so I don't even see the point in trying to **** on anyone elses parade. Let the Indoctrination Theorists enjoy they're interpretation and we can enjoy ours.
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