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[Maclimes]

Wulfram wrote...

The face import wouldn't work even without mods. Not well enough, anyway. You don't want your character to end up like Alistair.

And without any hints of personality, what's the point really?

I feel like fixing that is actually a priority, regardless of the Warden's presence or not. Please make Alistair look like Alistair again, or leave him out. Do it right, or don't do it.

Modifié par Maclimes, 14 juillet 2012 - 01:49 .

[Wulfram]

They surely can do better with people like Alistair, but it'll require tweaking by hand. It won't be possible with the sort of procedural technique that would be required to do cameos with peoples ex-PCs.

[Shevy]

Some notes about actions YOU did with your Warden or Hawke found in documents would be neat. Everything else, no. Especially not with the Warden. Hawke is kind of predefined with his voice and tone, so it could be possible to do it well, but I would advise BioWare to not bring him back as character.
Also, I would advice them to avoid cameos at all, if not absolutely necessary. It just ruins too much for such a little fan service. Hi@ Alistair.

Especially the German version was scrapped. None of the cameos had the voice over of Origins, because they decided to switch the voice over studio, don't know why. Male Hawke had the voice of Origins Zevran. I couldn't even finish the prologue with male Hawke. It just felt too weird.

Modifié par Shevy_001, 14 juillet 2012 - 04:33 .

[Harlequin2]

Or... Not have the Warden in DA3 at all. BUT, get an expansion pack for DA3 were you get to play as the Warden one final time, with a story running alongside the main one.

From a gameplay point of view, this works. More time is spent developing the core DA3 game whilst when players get around to playing the Warden, they get to play him/her how they want. Plus, people who sacrificed the Warden aren't losing anything from the main game and are in fact saving money from the expansion.

From a business point of view, this is also great. The expansion is guaranteed to get attention and those who only want to play as the Warden HAVE to buy DA3 to carry on their adventures as him/her. Plus, as I said, no-one is alienated.

Meanwhile, Hawke is easier to implement into the main game as he/she never dies, has a set VA and has a choice of three distinct personalities and two sides to the Mage/Templar conflict. Keeping the same art style, it's very easy to shove him in as a main NPC in the game. Of course, he/she could get an expansion treatment as well expanding on his experiances before the ending with his/her companions and love intrest.

All of this also ensures that if Bioware pulls another major crossroads ending, then none of the additional stories would infringe upon that.

[Brodoteau]

First of all, for many the Warden's final story was already in Witch Hunt. Where I really think they missed an opportunity to kill off the character (in some appropriately heroic and epic manner) and hence be done with this. But that being said...
It is entirely possible that the entire plot of the DA3 will be your main character trying to FIND Hawke and the Warden. What better way for you to: A) not explicitly take sides in the mage/templar war Find a way for you to go to Orlais C) Re-Introduce past characters in a meaningful way (you track them down to see if they know anything, some of them want to join you on the quest D) Get you embroiled in some struggle or grand conspiracy.
Moreover, I would be happy to see this game and play this game (just as I wanted KOTOR 3 to be the search for Revan) Even if the resolution at the end means you don't ever find them, but just what happened to them, so much the better.

[King Killoth]

Brodoteau wrote...

First of all, for many the Warden's final story was already in Witch Hunt. Where I really think they missed an opportunity to kill off the character (in some appropriately heroic and epic manner) and hence be done with this. But that being said...
It is entirely possible that the entire plot of the DA3 will be your main character trying to FIND Hawke and the Warden. What better way for you to: A) not explicitly take sides in the mage/templar war Find a way for you to go to Orlais C) Re-Introduce past characters in a meaningful way (you track them down to see if they know anything, some of them want to join you on the quest D) Get you embroiled in some struggle or grand conspiracy.
Moreover, I would be happy to see this game and play this game (just as I wanted KOTOR 3 to be the search for Revan) Even if the resolution at the end means you don't ever find them, but just what happened to them, so much the better.

I like this idea it fits better than playing as either or both. it works well in the DA world and as they have said that the map will be massive this time around it would give you a reason to go looking for them. also if the player was a warden it would make it interesting as it gives to the plot and allows for the Wardens above the law play style fit the man hunt theam. they have even said that one of the DA3 companions is a warden so hopfuly we get to play as another warden.

[Little Princess Peach]

Melca36 wrote...

ashwind wrote...

While I can understand why some want to see the Warden or Hawke back in future DA series.

I think it maybe good for Bioware to start anew and drop all the baggage. Time spent on working on savefile import parameters of DAO-DA2 can be spent polishing the new game.

Um...Sorry but some of us want to see our choices from BOTh games. They could easily do an intercative comic like they did for ME2 as well.

Or we can have two char creators

[Maclimes]

Harlequin2 wrote...

Or... Not have the Warden in DA3 at all. BUT, get an expansion pack for DA3 were you get to play as the Warden one final time, with a story running alongside the main one.
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All of this also ensures that if Bioware pulls another major crossroads ending, then none of the additional stories would infringe upon that.

Brodoteau wrote...

It is entirely possible that the entire plot of the DA3 will be your main character trying to FIND Hawke and the Warden. What better way for you to: A) not explicitly take sides in the mage/templar war Find a way for you to go to Orlais C) Re-Introduce past characters in a meaningful way (you track them down to see if they know anything, some of them want to join you on the quest D) Get you embroiled in some struggle or grand conspiracy. 
Moreover, I would be happy to see this game and play this game (just as I wanted KOTOR 3 to be the search for Revan) Even if the resolution at the end means you don't ever find them, but just what happened to them, so much the better.

 

These two ideas work quite well together.

Modifié par Maclimes, 14 juillet 2012 - 06:20 .

[Jerrybnsn]

Harlequin2 wrote...

Or... Not have the Warden in DA3 at all. BUT, get an expansion pack for DA3 were you get to play as the Warden one final time, with a story running alongside the main one.

This I would preorder.  DA3 would need a lot of positive directions, like race options for starters, for me to want to preorder it. 

[Jerrybnsn]

Brodoteau wrote...

First of all, for many the Warden's final story was already in Witch Hunt. 

Technically, the whole plot in the Witch Hunt was for Morrigan to tell you that "change" was coming and accept it.  If I wanted that speech I would listen to President Obama. Ba-da-dum!

[Jerrybnsn]

Okay seriously, How many times are you prepared to meet Flemeth and Morrigan and play like you have no idea who they are? There is a certain amount of disbelief that you are asked to roleplay as a new protagonists. So, starting out as an underpowered hero that needs to level up (standard rpg element), yet continuosly be reintroduced to the same characters that you've interacted and forged relationships before is pretty silly.

I firmly believe in just returning to the Warden who is still alive, or your Orleasian Warden if you sacrificed yourself in game one. And if it's a choice between VO and cinematics over having gameplay like Origins, you're better off going with Origins.

I would prefer to continue experiencing the Dragon Age world and its story as myself instead of continously putting on different hats.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 14 juillet 2012 - 10:36 .