Tritium315 wrote...
You grew up in a peaceful time where you went to school everday and didn't have to worry about much. If they grew up during a Soviet invasion where the Red Army was marching through America (or wherever you live) butchering everyone I'd guess schooling wouldn't be a very important part of your day to day life. Moreover, I highly doubt your history of WW2 would paint the Soviets as the good guys who teamed up with the rest of the Allies against the Axis.
Important events of our species are not only taught in schools, they are passed on orally. I'm not arguing about whether the organics were right or the synthetics in Javik's cycle. All I'm saying is there was definitely a long-drawn out org-syn war in his cycle, something that changed their worldview dramatically.
Also what synthetics were designed for is irrelevent. Are you saying we can't fault white slave owners in Pre-Civil War America for wanting their slaves to just work the fields and killing them whenever they tried to run away or fight back? After all they never intended them to be anything but tools.
LOL. you are comparing sentient human slaves to a computer? Do you consider using a computer as equial to using slaves? There's a fundamental difference. Let me elaborate. The AI, or whatever form they started out with.. were little more than tools, they didn't have intelligence more than an ant. Human slaves were always sentient to begin with
. So you can't compare them. Don't know about you, but I'd be mighty pissed if tomorrow I discover my computer has grown a mind of its own and walks away to find more like it.
Destroy will obviously lead to new synthetics being made eventually.
Agreed. Destroy achieves little more than satisfy an old-soldier-stuck-in-his-way's ego while ensuring no synthetic would trust an organic ever, not in the near future atleast.
Control will result in Geth being alive, and new synthetics being made, unless Shep starts reaping.
But Reaper-Shepard's aim/programming is not to solve the organic-synthetic problem/reaping, it is to "protect and preserve, and act as a galactic guardian". There is nothing to suggest he would start reaping, unless its our inherent distrust on an AI entity talking. The catalyst stayed true to its programming for billions of years, there is no reason to assume SHepard would suddenly go rogue and start doing what he was no intended to do, unless someone in future inserts a crucible and "changes variables".
As for synthesis, well no one is stopping the new hybrids from creating pure synthetics.
Organics would no longer need synthetics because their synthetic implants would allow them to break the limitations nature placed on their bodies and do whatever a synthetic can do. And even if they do accidentally create sentient synthetics, those synthetics would recieve a far better deal in a world where synthetics and organics understand anad cooperate with each other on a galactic scale, (What EDI says about synthetics being able to choose their future without fear) than in a world where AIs are viewed with paranoia (the present world, and the other options). Those synthetics too, would likely be "synthesized" by their brethren, having seen the benefits of synthesis.
Not to mention the Geth have stated they are pure software; how do you even make a program organic? C++ Synthesis Edition?
But it is possible! Though probably not in a way you imagined. Let me explain how, though if you have your mind set on a particular stance my arguments would hardly change.. still I'd try.
"Catalyst: organics seek perfection through technology, synthetics seek understanding of organics".
What synthesis would do to organics is, implant their molecules with nanides, nanobots.. stuff like that. Our futurists already talk of such possibilities in the near future, though ofcourse not on the same scale. So organics would break the limitations nature has placed on their bodies.
What synthesis does to synthetics is to evolve their AI programming so that they perfectly resemble an organic mind. That way synthetics now can properly understand organics. Their minds would show emotions and feelings like anger, love, hatred etcetra, which is organic enough in my mind. There would be no way to tell an organic apart from a synthetic except by seeing or hearing them. They would pass any Turing tests they are put through. They would be organic minds, just housed on a platform made of steel rather than flesh. Thats what is shown in the epilogue scenes. Contrary to popular conception, synthesis does NOT cause geth to grow skin or organics to suffer a BSOD. It affects both differently, while eliminating the core reasons for conflict between the two. And no, I don't conside synthesis to be the final evolution of life, life always evolves. The Catalyst probably went overboard while selling synthesis to me.
JamieCOTC wrote...
"When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong." - Arthur C. Clarke
Just think of the Catalyst as a distinguished but elderly scientist here. He knows a lot, but he doesn't know everything. He doesn't prepare for the impossible, which is why Shepard is able to reach him in the first place.
That is actually close to how I view the catalyst. And offtopic: Can I get the facecode for that femshep of yours?
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