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[Ziegrif]

CNevarezN wrote...

Can't WAIT to throw my Krogan Soldier at the enemy!!!

My Krogan Sentinels got your back bro!
I'll gladly throw you at the enemy at top speed!
Krogan missile!

[LGear]

Lividliver wrote...

I didn't just mention Krysae X,i said a full team of GI's with krysae X.Don't forget about the damage boosts from TC and HM.

Right now in gold,a GI with a krysae X is still able to put out alot of damage with spare change.A three fold health increase might just make one such player end up being like any other non infil class using the krysae.IE to say,the damage will be nothing facinating but still tolerable.Of course,that would mean that any other non infil(or even non GI) classes using a krysae will end up looking as if they are holding onto nothing more than a pea shooter.

This is why I predicted in my earlier post that Platinum will not diversify the type of classes/race/weapons/powers used.Instead,it will boil down to only a couple of viable combinations.

I really don't see how the Krysae would be the go-to weapon in Platinum. Unless you abuse Tactical Cloak, it's not a very damaging weapon at all - the Falcon and Scorpion have better AoE, and many other high end weapons like the Claymore, Widow and Harrier deal more reliable effective damage in a shorter amount of time, which given the supposed health boosts of your enemies means you'd want to have weapons that dealt the most damage as possible . Also, with the supposed diversity of enemies in Platinum, having your entire squad made up of Geth Infiltrators + Krysae's would be a ludicrous notion, unless you want to get curbstomped by a Brute/Phantom combo or worse due to lacking reliable large-area crowd-control devices.



 

[UkGouki]

well next tuesday were doing a reeger + kroguard run with maxxed equipement to see if we can still beat any map with them like on gold...

[BoomDynamite]

RedJohn will never solo Platinum...

[Eckswhyzed]

LGear wrote...

 Also, with the supposed diversity of enemies in Platinum, having your entire squad made up of Geth Infiltrators + Krysae's would be a ludicrous notion, unless you want to get curbstomped by a Brute/Phantom combo or worse due to lacking reliable large-area crowd-control devices.

I don't think you've ever played on a team of 4 Krysae GIs. The power of proximity mine debuff stacking + the insane damage boosts is ridiculous. And you realise that Phantoms are some of the easiest enemies to kill with Krysae GIs? Krysae easily staggers plus they have the shield pulse melee.

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see how my melee/shotgun GI fares. It's not like I can get much more fragile.

[HashimSharif]

they have added a new difficulty, and I still play silver , I wish I was able to save up millions of credits

[vironblood]

Although it's speculation, with a little luck on objective waves, 4 Phoenix classes standing in the cul-the-sac on Glacier should be able to cheese their way through platinum.

[GGW KillerTiger]

So BioWare lied and said they would make pltinum harder than gold without using cheasy tactics like more health and actually did use more health? BioFail strikes again!

[Lividliver]

LGear wrote...


I really don't see how the Krysae would be the go-to weapon in Platinum. Unless you abuse Tactical Cloak, it's not a very damaging weapon at all - the Falcon and Scorpion have better AoE, and many other high end weapons like the Claymore, Widow and Harrier deal more reliable effective damage in a shorter amount of time, which given the supposed health boosts of your enemies means you'd want to have weapons that dealt the most damage as possible . Also, with the supposed diversity of enemies in Platinum, having your entire squad made up of Geth Infiltrators + Krysae's would be a ludicrous notion, unless you want to get curbstomped by a Brute/Phantom combo or worse due to lacking reliable large-area crowd-control devices. 

Of course,TC is needed.In fact,I would even venture to say that infils will be the defacto class even if players wanted to use other weapons.The damage boost from TC and HM(if playing GI) is too good to pass up,maybe even a necessity.

I disagree that Falcon and Scorpion have better AOE,from what I have seen and experienced,they seem to be about the same.The reason why I say the Krysae @ x is better is because:

1)Proximity nature.Less precise aiming needed.As long as the enemy is in the vicinity,boom.For the falcon,you still need to ensure that the projectile you lob will actually come into contact with the enemy along its trajectory or that it will land somewhere near the enemy and explode in time before the enemy runs/dodges away.The scorpion is the same as well.In an enclosed environment,it will be less of an issue.

2)The krysae is a sniper rifle and comes with a scope already.This makes long range engagements easier.Plus the krysae does not suffer from hipfire penalties like other sniper rifles.

As for other weapons you have mentioned....

Sniper rifles like the widow will still have to deal with shield gates.If enemy shields are boosted as well,it is going to be hell.

Shotguns- When a player uses a claymore,it is usually intended that the headshot they fire off at the mook will kill it in one hit.If enemy shields and health are boosted to levels such that a claymore X shot to the head of a shielded mook does not kill it,said player will be in a world of pain.Unless they are playing GI shotties then they can afford to engage at a further distance without worrying about accuracy.

As for the harrier....if both shields and health are boosted to levels I think they will be,then such a player will be chained permanently to a ammo box unless they want to keep running around from ammo box to ammo box killing one mook at a time each stop,not sure how many will be willing to go through that sort of playstyle.

To be fair,this is based on my unfounded assumptions about the level of health and shield boosts.So what I predict might never ever come to pass.

Modifié par Lividliver, 13 juillet 2012 - 01:00 .

[Sailears]

This sounds crazy and fun at the same time.

I think initially we'll be in for a lot of pain (I know I will be!), but once people get the hang of it I think it will be really fun. Mixed factions sounds fantastic.


Edit: More health does have me a bit worried. Not sure I like the sound of that; might just make things too tedious.

Modifié par Curunen, 13 juillet 2012 - 01:03 .

[Influ]

Nattfare wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them.

Titan Quest?

Skyrim.

Platinum sounds absolutely awful. I love it.

[BDelacroix]

These are reasons to instant kick players anyway. In fact, some don't even need a reason.  Sounds interesting actually but I'll likely never get to play it.

Modifié par BDelacroix, 13 juillet 2012 - 01:05 .

[Mgamerz]

The mixed enemies will be easy, been here, done that.

Modifié par Mgamerz, 13 juillet 2012 - 01:10 .

[AzureSky899]

I thank OP for this info etc. I was planning to use Fury, Slayer and Shadow as my go to classes but I don't think Shadow would be a good thing on Plat(I'll still try it !!!). Mixing enemy factions is a good idea, I mean I'm farming cause I want to get at least one character(knowing my luck probably Paladin first) on day 1 but after that, I'm gonna play for fun and I find reapers the best matches, now mixed factions sounds even more fun, sure I'll yell and curse but IDC, sadly this does limit certain characters/ classes like Batarian suffering double Prime stunlock while a Banshee comes from behind and sync-kills kind of scenario. My N7 rank is 532 or so but I've been here since day 1, I just think promoting is a waste of time, I've all weapons maxed except UR. But yes if I see an Asari adept with Javelin or so equipped, I'm kicking her....

[Kuato Livezz]

Dealing with Banshees on gold is a pain already, I can't see how I'm going to deal with Banshee's then get stunlocked by 3-4 geth hunters while Atlas's are in the distance shooting rockets at me.

[TheWout]

It sounds like playing a new N7 class with any X weapon is going to be nothing short of HILARIOUS on Bronze.

I'm looking forward to use Destroyer/Bronze as a stress reliever.

[LuckyBullet95]

UkGouki wrote...

well next tuesday were doing a reeger + kroguard run with maxxed equipement to see if we can still beat any map with them like on gold...

Can I get in on that action ? 

[AzureSky899]

Serious question: I bet they're gonna release a patch soon, you think it'll fix missile glitch, I don't want no missile glitcher ruining my fun UUP.....

[UserUnknown85]

Lividliver wrote...

LGear wrote...


I really don't see how the Krysae would be the go-to weapon in Platinum. Unless you abuse Tactical Cloak, it's not a very damaging weapon at all - the Falcon and Scorpion have better AoE, and many other high end weapons like the Claymore, Widow and Harrier deal more reliable effective damage in a shorter amount of time, which given the supposed health boosts of your enemies means you'd want to have weapons that dealt the most damage as possible . Also, with the supposed diversity of enemies in Platinum, having your entire squad made up of Geth Infiltrators + Krysae's would be a ludicrous notion, unless you want to get curbstomped by a Brute/Phantom combo or worse due to lacking reliable large-area crowd-control devices. 

Of course,TC is needed.In fact,I would even venture to say that infils will be the defacto class even if players wanted to use other weapons.The damage boost from TC and HM(if playing GI) is too good to pass up,maybe even a necessity.

I disagree that Falcon and Scorpion have better AOE,from what I have seen and experienced,they seem to be about the same.The reason why I say the Krysae @ x is better is because:

1)Proximity nature.Less precise aiming needed.As long as the enemy is in the vicinity,boom.For the falcon,you still need to ensure that the projectile you lob will actually come into contact with the enemy along its trajectory or that it will land somewhere near the enemy and explode in time before the enemy runs/dodges away.The scorpion is the same as well.In an enclosed environment,it will be less of an issue.

2)The krysae is a sniper rifle and comes with a scope already.This makes long range engagements easier.Plus the krysae does not suffer from hipfire penalties like other sniper rifles.

As for other weapons you have mentioned....

Sniper rifles like the widow will still have to deal with shield gates.If enemy shields are boosted as well,it is going to be hell.

Shotguns- When a player uses a claymore,it is usually intended that the headshot they fire off at the mook will kill it in one hit.If enemy shields and health are boosted to levels such that a claymore X shot to the head of a shielded mook does not kill it,said player will be in a world of pain.Unless they are playing GI shotties then they can afford to engage at a further distance without worrying about accuracy.

As for the harrier....if both shields and health are boosted to levels I think they will be,then such a player will be chained permanently to a ammo box unless they want to keep running around from ammo box to ammo box killing one mook at a time each stop,not sure how many will be willing to go through that sort of playstyle.

To be fair,this is based on my unfounded assumptions about the level of health and shield boosts.So what I predict might never ever come to pass.

So many errors in just the one post...

Falcon and scorpion DO have better AoE. If you can't see it, I wonder how you aim at all...

The Falcon DOES have a proximity detonation, pretty much the same than the Krysae, in fact. You can shoot at enemies without LoS. The scorpion can, of course, do the same.

The Krysae is one of the worst SR's when it comes to sniping because of the travel delay, very long range engagements are somewhat hazardous. Off the top of my head, the only worst SR is the Kishock.

The Krysae DOES suffer from hipfire penalty (and so does the raptor), it just doesn't suffer as much as other SR's. Don't quote me on it, but I believe it has a 0.85 penalty, like the raptor and kishok? While BW/widow types have 0.65.

SR's are probably going to benefit from higher health/shields the most... Right now guns like the widow/javelin are just way overkill (more than 10.000 points of damage on cloaked headshots with maxed damage!!!). If shotgun's damage diminishes, then people turn back to SR's, assuming you don't "waste" too much damage on basic mooks. That of course is still speculation

A GI claymore character can usually one-shot shielded mooks from cloak without bothering to get a headshot. The headshot bonus is a 2.5 multiplier that applies AFTER every other bonus... They'd need to triple health/shields at least... Every other non-infil non-HS class would be screwed, though... Anyhow, the claymore's strenght isn't just damage, it also doesn't require you to expose yourself as long as, say, the harrier. Even if it requires 2 shots, you're still spending less time out of cover than with any other gun in the game (pretty much).

That ended up WAAAAAYYY longer than I thought it would. I apologize for that.

EDITED for unfortunate copy/paste

Modifié par UserUnknown85, 13 juillet 2012 - 01:41 .

[Mgamerz]

I haven't been able to read this whole thread, but do the enemies without shields/barriers now have shields barriers? I know in ME2 they did this on insanity... they took it out of ME3. Really hope they added this mechanic. More health seems less plausible than a person carrying a shield.

[TheWout]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

So BioWare lied and said they would make pltinum harder than gold without using cheasy tactics like more health and actually did use more health? BioFail strikes again!

You know nothing, GGW KillerTiger

[dysturbed0ne]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

So BioWare lied and said they would make pltinum harder than gold without using cheasy tactics like more health and actually did use more health? BioFail strikes again!

Your positive outlook on everything is always a breath of fresh air. 



OT: This sounds like good times.

[RedJohn]

CoolHanc101 wrote...

RKOLK wrote...

think its possible to solo?

There is a possibility. But yeah, I would be very surprised if anyone can pull that off

I hope you are wrong, I want me to not be capable of solo it, if anyone can there is no problem, but I want to not be capable of do it.

[Jon The Wizard]

I was kind of hoping that Collectors would start jumping in, just to make things really interesting.

[BP93]

My kroguard is ready.

It's probably going to be filled with a bunch of people playing infiltrators at first, just like Gold during release.