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[Grub Killer8016]

Everyone has an opinion.... buuuttt........ ehhhh......

[Aaleel]

I wouldn't say bad. DA2 was bad. ME3 was a little better than average

I hated the auto-dialogue and the huge amount of eavesdropping fetch quests. I thought London as a whole was underwhelming to be the climax of the entire series.

The crucible storyline was terrible from the point they said "We've had scientists here for 30 years but we just now happened to find these plans for a superweapon lying around just in the nick of time."

So I'm not in the it was bad camp, but not in the it was outstanding up until the end camp either.

Modifié par Aaleel, 14 juillet 2012 - 01:18 .

[Mathias]

FoggyFishburne wrote...

Yeah. Yeah I actually agree with you. I wouldn't go so far as saying it's bad, mediocre/average would be more fair. But I definitively agree. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fanboy or an idiot. I guess that's the same thing but ME3 did drop the ball in a lot of aspects. The auto dialogue pissed me off to the degree that it was actually throwing me out of the experience several times.

Man I'm not in the mood to list all the ****ty aspects of the game. I'm tired of developers starting to phone their games in, just because they have a devoted fanbase. Abusing them like gum. I defended DA2 but this... Some say that it's all up to DA3. That's the game that can redeem BioWare. I say they're already done. They're not as good as they used to be. Personally I'm looking forward to new games from CD Project Red.

Cyberpunk 2020 man  

I'll see you there.

[naes1984]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

FoggyFishburne wrote...

Yeah. Yeah I actually agree with you. I wouldn't go so far as saying it's bad, mediocre/average would be more fair. But I definitively agree. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fanboy or an idiot. I guess that's the same thing but ME3 did drop the ball in a lot of aspects. The auto dialogue pissed me off to the degree that it was actually throwing me out of the experience several times.

Man I'm not in the mood to list all the ****ty aspects of the game. I'm tired of developers starting to phone their games in, just because they have a devoted fanbase. Abusing them like gum. I defended DA2 but this... Some say that it's all up to DA3. That's the game that can redeem BioWare. I say they're already done. They're not as good as they used to be. Personally I'm looking forward to new games from CD Project Red.

Cyberpunk 2020 man  

I'll see you there.

I just started Witcher Enhanced Edition. It was only $10 on Steam so it's not any great financial risk.

[Irishkev]

As a standalone game it is average at best.

Compared to ME1 and ME2 It falls really short compared to them. It's like they spent all there time trying to get it like GOW that they forgot about the story. Don't get me wrong some of the missons hold true to the ME feeling like tuchanka and rannoch. but the rest just felt like generic answer from squad members.

Also I don't mind the auto dialouge but they over did it in ME3 it's like they really just wanted there story told for ME3 and not our choice. I have replayed it 3 times now and I can honestly say the renegade option at times is Identical to the paragon option just maybe one word of a difference. that alone tells me they didn't flesh out the story enough.

I mean come on the last thing you say to anderson before you leave earth is
Paraon : we are in this fight together Anderson
Renegade: We are in this fight together

Which anderson will give the same response I mean why give us a choice they are the same answer

Modifié par Irishkev, 14 juillet 2012 - 01:30 .

[Reptilian Rob]

No, COD and Madden/FIFA are bad games.

[naes1984]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

No, COD and Madden/FIFA are bad games.

Rogue Warrior is a bad game although the rap at the end is hilarious.

[CronoDragoon]

Irishkev wrote...

As a standalone game it is average at best.

Compared to ME1 and ME2 It falls really short compared to them. It's like they spent all there time trying to get it like GOW that they forgot about the story. Don't get me wrong some of the missons hold true to the ME feeling like tuchanka and rannoch. but the rest just felt like generic answer from squad members.

Also I don't mind the auto dialouge but they over did it in ME3 it's like they really just wanted there story told for ME3 and not our choice. I have replayed it 3 times now and I can honestly say the renegade option at times is Identical to the paragon option just maybe one word of a difference. that alone tells me they didn't flesh out the story enough.

I mean come on the last thing you say to anderson before you leave earth is
Paraon : we are in this fight together Anderson
Renegade: We are in this fight together

Which anderson will give the same response I mean why give us a choice they are the same answer

This happens in ME1 as well.

[RasenRebirth]

Oransel wrote...

That's right. It's a bad, mediocre game. 

Redeeming features:

Garrus
Tuchanka arc
Rannoch arc
Weapon mods
Smooth combat system

What makes it bad? (bolded the parts that are intolerable)

Auto-dialogue. Canon Shep.
Almost no side missions, but tons of fetch quests.
No Galaxy exploration. No vehicles.
No ME2 characters as a squadmates or even proper LI's.
Game is very short, compared to previous games. 
Crucible.
Choices did not matter.
Introduction/beginning.
Catalyst's existence.
Overall plot is very weak - Kai Leng power armor, Cerberus and so on.
Bugs. Tons of them. 
Journal.
Endings.
Artistic integrity.
that stupid kid, and Shepard's nightmares about him.
the rest of the games are irrelevant.
Insults from Bioware.

Bad game is bad.

I will admet it has some problems what game doesnt but you if want a bad game look at the last Duke Nukem or Brink or some of the mistakes Square has put out.<_<

Modifié par RasenRebirth, 14 juillet 2012 - 01:47 .

[Freestate2nd]

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Modifié par Freestate2nd, 14 juillet 2012 - 01:51 .

[NedPepper]

CronoDragoon wrote...

I can't speak for the Witcher 2's console controls, but I found it very underwhelming on PC. Then again, I rarely enjoy K&M gameplay...

See, I was thinking maybe it was porting to a console issue, but apparently not.  

And for the previous poster, you target the wrong enemy a lot.  But that's not my only issue.  The game looks pretty, I'll give you that.  But again, the dialogue is bad in some areas, the VA is subpar, and I don't feel a great connection to Geralt. (I bought the Last Wish on my Kindle, and the book didn't really grab me either.  Writing was subpar.  Again, I don't know if it's a "lost in translation" thing or not.)  When combat becomes a pain in the ass, I  don't want to play.  Deus Ex is challenging, but fun.  The Witcher 2 just gives me a headache.  I'll go back and try it.  I'm not going to buy a game and not play it.  I'm stubborn that way.  But I can't help but feel a little disappointed after this place built it up like it was the Jesus of gaming. Eh, just my opinion.  But overblown hype?  Definitely.

[D24O]

As a stand alone game 3 would've been better. IMO it doesn't tie in too well with the rest of the trilogy besides the characters, and most of 2's cast doesn't get much more than a cursory nod. However, the highest points of the game were so good because of the buildup across all 3 games. It's lows would be lower as a standalone, but its highs wouldn't be nearly as high.

[NedPepper]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

This is why I can't wait for CDProjekt to finish their Cyberpunk game.

Now THAT sounds interesting.  I wish Bioware would branch out with their RPGs.  Cyber punk, noir. weird fantasy (not Tolkien), horror.  A great horror RPG with squad mates?  Sign me up. Sigh...instead we get Command and Conquer: Generals.  Oh, and a Star Wars MMO that is dying on the vine...sigh....

Anyway, back on topic.

[NedPepper]

Aaleel wrote...

I wouldn't say bad. DA2 was bad. ME3 was a little better than average

I hated the auto-dialogue and the huge amount of eavesdropping fetch quests. I thought London as a whole was underwhelming to be the climax of the entire series.

The crucible storyline was terrible from the point they said "We've had scientists here for 30 years but we just now happened to find these plans for a superweapon lying around just in the nick of time."

So I'm not in the it was bad camp, but not in the it was outstanding up until the end camp either.

No, DA 2 was not bad either.  Gaider's writing made up for the reused evironments, the lack of exploration, and the  respawning enemies.  There's some really solid character work and ACT 2 with the Qunari is great gaming.  So, no, DA2 isn't bad, either.  Up to Bioware's standard?  Maybe that's the problem.  There's a lot of crappy games out and ME3 and DA2 are miles better than them.  Let's be real, here.  It's why game critics, who HAVE to play all the crappy games seem to be so disconnected with Bioware fans.  Because they had sit and play and review bad games like, say, thelast X-Men RPG and it was probably hell.  THAT is  a BAD game.  DA2 and ME3 just didn't live up to fans' percieved expectations.

[naes1984]

It's like Return of the Jedi more than Return of the King. ME3 didn't live up to the well-earned high expectations of its predecessors. Not to say it didn't have good (even great) moments but there were just some things which didn't sit right with a lot of people. I'm glad there is a ME3 just like I'm glad there is a ROTJ but it is definitely a missed opportunity. Maybe if they had had more but this is always the excuse. A disaster is like Highlander 2 or the last 10 years of Sonic the Hedgehog. ME3 is not a disaster. If you play enough videogames and see enough movies, you'll start seeing the truly bad ones. I should make you play SIlent HIll Collection for PS3- an objectively broken game that was only patched yesterday and still sucks- the game came out in March.

Modifié par naes1984, 14 juillet 2012 - 02:27 .

[Blue Liara]

Agree with this sentiment. Also seems that Bioware bans you if you offer ANY direct criticism to any Individual who worked on Mass Effect 3.

[Shepard108278]

[quote]Oransel wrote...

That's right. It's a bad, mediocre game. 

Redeeming features:

Garrus
Tuchanka arc
Rannoch arc
Weapon mods
Smooth combat system

What makes it bad? (bolded the parts that are intolerable)

Auto-dialogue. Canon Shep.[/quote]
The auto dialogue was fine imo and you can still have your shep IMO.
[quote]Almost no side missions, but tons of fetch quests.[/quote]
For a game where war was breaking out I felt the ammount of side missions were fine.
[quote]No Galaxy exploration. No vehicles.[/quote]
I would have liked to use the hammerhead again other than that no issue and the galaxy exploration was exactly the same as the other games just minus the uncharted worlds. I see no issue here.
[quote]No ME2 characters as a squadmates or even proper LI's.[/quote]
Miranda and Jack were handled fine IMO and Thanes was understandable. Only one I could see as an issue is Jacob. As far as them as squaddies I would agree if the explanation for them not being there was bad. It wasn't.
[quote]Game is very short, compared to previous games.[/quote]
???? First playthrough was 30ish hours so not sure what you're getting at.
[quote]Crucible.[/quote]
No issue here.
[quote]Choices did not matter.[/quote]
Yes they do.
[quote]Introduction/beginning.[/quote]
I thought it was great.
[quote]Catalyst's existence.[/quote]
Again fine in my book.
[quote]Overall plot is very weak - Kai Leng power armor, Cerberus and so on.[/quote]
I don't agree at all.
[quote]Bugs. Tons of them.[/quote]
Not on my game. I encountered only a few.
[quote]Journal.[/quote]
Only thing I will agree with you on.
[quote]Endings.[/quote]
Endings are fine IMO.
[quote]Artistic integrity.[/quote]
They like any artist are proud of their work and I support them on their stance.
[quote]that stupid kid, and Shepard's nightmares about him.[/quote]
Made sense to me. Shep felt guilty over not being able to help him and the reapers used that to torment him/her.
[quote]
the rest of the games are irrelevant.
Insults from Bioware.[/quote]
No they arent and I never saw one insult from Bioware.

[quote]Bad game is bad.

[/quote]
I couldn't disagree more. ME is a great series and ME 3 is the best of them.

[o Ventus]

Shepard108278 wrote...

Mindless drivel

Can you say sycophant?

[Shepard108278]

Freestate2nd wrote...

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I don't see the N7 misssions weak nor just a way to justify MP content. They count as side quests.

[Shepard108278]

o Ventus wrote...

Shepard108278 wrote...

Mindless drivel

Can you say sycophant?

Cute so speaking my mind and responding to someone is midless drivel? Oh yeah I forgot this is the BSN if you like something you need to shut up right?:innocent:

[o Ventus]

Shepard108278 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Shepard108278 wrote...

Mindless drivel

Can you say sycophant?

Cute so speaking my mind and responding to someone is midless drivel? Oh yeah I forgot this is the BSN if you like something you need to shut up right?

No, your not even attempting to hide the sycophantic ass-kissing is what makes it mindless.

Or if you actually do feel that way, explain why you think that way.

[iHorizons]

Shepard108278 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Shepard108278 wrote...

Mindless drivel

Can you say sycophant?

Cute so speaking my mind and responding to someone is midless drivel? Oh yeah I forgot this is the BSN if you like something you need to shut up right?:innocent:

you sir are a ******

[Nightwriter]

Shepard108278 wrote...

The auto dialogue was fine imo and you can still have your shep IMO.

Shepard108278 wrote...

Miranda and Jack were handled fine IMO and Thanes was understandable. Only one I could see as an issue is Jacob. As far as them as squaddies I would agree if the explanation for them not being there was bad. It wasn't.

Shepard108278 wrote...

Choices did not matter.

Yes they do.

Shepard108278 wrote...

Catalyst's existence.

Again fine in my book.

Shepard108278 wrote...

Endings.

Endings are fine IMO.

Shepard108278 wrote...

Artistic integrity.

They like any artist are proud of their work and I support them on their stance.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 14 juillet 2012 - 02:39 .

[Mathias]

Shepard i'll just save myself time and say I disagree with every one of your points. A lot of them felt like excuses.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 14 juillet 2012 - 02:40 .

[Shepard108278]

o Ventus wrote...

Shepard108278 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Shepard108278 wrote...

Mindless drivel

Can you say sycophant?

Cute so speaking my mind and responding to someone is midless drivel? Oh yeah I forgot this is the BSN if you like something you need to shut up right?

No, your not even attempting to hide the sycophantic ass-kissing is what makes it mindless.

Or if you actually do feel that way, explain why you think that way.

I'm not ass kissing anyone and I feel that way because IMO they released a great game that truly does everything I said.