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[Atakuma]

o Ventus wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Nope, still subjective.

What a surprise. Someone makes a reply to one of my posts, addressing absolutely nothing, and just dismisses what I say.

Stay classy BSN.

What am I supposed to say to someone who believes their opinions are facts? You clearly have no interest in an actual argument, so I'm not going to waste my time.

Modifié par Atakuma, 14 juillet 2012 - 03:24 .

[o Ventus]

Atakuma wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Nope, still subjective.

What a surprise. Someone makes a reply to one of my posts, addressing absolutely nothing, and just dismisses what I say.

Stay classy BSN.

What am I supposed to say to someone who believes their opinions are facts? You clearly have no interest in an actual argument, so I'm not going to waste my time.

Another person pulling the "You're clearly X, so I won't waste my time" card.

Stay classy(er), BSN.

[Atakuma]

o Ventus wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Nope, still subjective.

What a surprise. Someone makes a reply to one of my posts, addressing absolutely nothing, and just dismisses what I say.

Stay classy BSN.

What am I supposed to say to someone who believes their opinions are facts? You clearly have no interest in an actual argument, so I'm not going to waste my time.

Another person pulling the "You're clearly X, so I won't waste my time" card.

Stay classy(er), BSN.

And this only furthers my point. Instead of making any effort at all, you simply deflect.

[o Ventus]

Atakuma wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Nope, still subjective.

What a surprise. Someone makes a reply to one of my posts, addressing absolutely nothing, and just dismisses what I say.

Stay classy BSN.

What am I supposed to say to someone who believes their opinions are facts? You clearly have no interest in an actual argument, so I'm not going to waste my time.

Another person pulling the "You're clearly X, so I won't waste my time" card.

Stay classy(er), BSN.

And this only furthers my point. Instead of making any effort at all, you simply deflect.

You're doing the same exact damn thing to me.

Or does the double standard not apply to you?

[EnvyTB075]

Quake II

Logan Cloud wrote...

You guys could... Y'know, attempt to speak to each other like normal people.

Impossible, this is the BSN, where appearing to gain a higher moral/intelligent ground is a daily occurance, no matter how silly they make themselves look in the process.

[Ghost Lightning]

*reads title*


*agrees*

[Cobalt2113]

If it was objectively a bad game it wouldn't have a metacritic score of 89.

[EnvyTB075]

Cobalt2113 wrote...

If it was objectively a bad game it wouldn't have a metacritic score of 89.

Because review scores are a perfectly reliable way to judge the quality of a game.

For every reviewer who gave the game 8/10 or above, there are probably about a thousand who vehemently disagree and don't have a paycheck to worry about when scoring the game.

[TookYoCookies]

Cobalt2113 wrote...

If it was objectively a bad game it wouldn't have a metacritic score of 89.

 


ROFL..


Yeah bud, also remember that Santa and the Easter Bunny do exist. No matter what any one else tells you..

Modifié par TookYoCookies, 14 juillet 2012 - 03:56 .

[alsonamedbort]

Why does everything have to be objective? Why can't it just be your opinion? Is it just that it makes you sound smarter or give your opinion more value? Why not just let it be your opinion and have done with it?

[alsonamedbort]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Cobalt2113 wrote...

If it was objectively a bad game it wouldn't have a metacritic score of 89.

Because review scores are a perfectly reliable way to judge the quality of a game.

For every reviewer who gave the game 8/10 or above, there are probably about a thousand who vehemently disagree and don't have a paycheck to worry about when scoring the game.

Are there any people who agree that don't have a paycheck to worry about?

Not saying that reviewer scores are a valid form of measurement, just saying that your implication that only people who are "have a paycheck to worry about" give the game a good rating is not exactly a winning argument.

[o Ventus]

alsonamedbort wrote...

Why does everything have to be objective? Why can't it just be your opinion? Is it just that it makes you sound smarter or give your opinion more value? Why not just let it be your opinion and have done with it?

Not everything is opinionated?

[Applepie_Svk]

TookYoCookies wrote...

Cobalt2113 wrote...

If it was objectively a bad game it wouldn't have a metacritic score of 89.

 


ROFL..


Yeah bud, also remember that Santa and the Easter Bunny do exist. No matter what any one else tells you..

*This one approves !*

[alsonamedbort]

o Ventus wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...

Why does everything have to be objective? Why can't it just be your opinion? Is it just that it makes you sound smarter or give your opinion more value? Why not just let it be your opinion and have done with it?

Not everything is opinionated?

But insisting that something like a video game is "objectively bad" is merely trying to convince people that your opinion is the right one, and that anyone who disagrees is wrong.

Note that I didn't say "why can't everything be subjective?"  I said "why does everything have to be objective?"  I don't think that everything is "opinionated," as you say, but something like the quality of a video game certainly is.

ME3 is not objectively a bad game.  It's not objectively good either.  A lot of people liked it.  A lot of people didn't.  That's pretty much all there is to it.

[Akruze]

Oransel wrote...

That's right. It's a bad, mediocre game. 

Redeeming features:

Garrus
Tuchanka arc
Rannoch arc
Weapon mods
Smooth combat system

What makes it bad? (bolded the parts that are intolerable)

Auto-dialogue. Canon Shep.
Almost no side missions, but tons of fetch quests.
No Galaxy exploration. No vehicles.
No ME2 characters as a squadmates or even proper LI's.
Game is very short, compared to previous games. 
Crucible.
Choices did not matter.
Introduction/beginning.
Catalyst's existence.
Overall plot is very weak - Kai Leng power armor, Cerberus and so on.
Bugs. Tons of them. 
Journal.
Endings.
Artistic integrity.
that stupid kid, and Shepard's nightmares about him.
the rest of the games are irrelevant.
Insults from Bioware.

Bad game is bad.

Your opinion is bad

That's right. It's a bad, mediocre opinion.

Redeeming features

You mention things in the game

What makes it bad (bolded the parts that are intolerable)

You point out specific parts of the game rather than taking it is a whole or explaining why you don't like the points in your baseless list.
You ignore the FACT that the game is freaking fun

See what I did there. Looks stupid doesn't it.


Rather than making an outragious claim that the game is bad maybe you could offer some thought to the forums. Say why you don't like it, but don't ever call anything bad when it truely isn't. You may not like it, but you are an individual in a sea of thousands of people who love it. Your simple statments mean less than nothing without context or real thought. It just sounds like childish ranting.

Me personally. I loved the game. The gameplay is amazing, and most of the story is great. There are ups and downs that keep me intriged and epic moments that are just that. Epic. A story doesn't necessarily need choices to matter so much. 

Oransel wrote... 

Go play CS or CoD. Battlefield maybe.

 

Also, childish crap like this doesn't help your point.

[Ghost]

Not sure if serious or just stupid?

[SteffiSyndrom]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

SteffiSyndrom wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

SteffiSyndrom wrote...

Oransel wrote...

That's right. It's a bad, mediocre game. 

Redeeming features:

Garrus
Tuchanka arc
Rannoch arc
Weapon mods
Smooth combat system

What makes it bad? (bolded the parts that are intolerable)

Auto-dialogue. Canon Shep.
Almost no side missions, but tons of fetch quests.
No Galaxy exploration. No vehicles.
No ME2 characters as a squadmates or even proper LI's.
Game is very short, compared to previous games. 
Crucible.
Choices did not matter.
Introduction/beginning.
Catalyst's existence.
Overall plot is very weak - Kai Leng power armor, Cerberus and so on.
Bugs. Tons of them. 
Journal.
Endings.
Artistic integrity.
that stupid kid, and Shepard's nightmares about him.
the rest of the games are irrelevant.
Insults from Bioware.

Bad game is bad.

Then why the hell are you on the forum? ._. I don't get it. Are people like you so bored that they HAVE to spread hatred wherever they go? Let's say I don't like a certain band, now ... I don't go to THEIR website and badmouth about them. If I don't like something, I let it be ... it's called maturity. You should try it someday.

Oh so you're one of those people that thinks people shouldn't post on the forums if they have criticism?

No, I'm one of those people that think if you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all. I respect people's opinions and such, but I don't understand those endless complaints about ME3, if you don't like it, just let it go then. And I have a right to publish my opinion as well. Therefor - I don't understand all the badmouthing about ME3. Sure there were things they could have done better, it's just so old now. Like old chewing gum that's been chewed over and over. There's the time where you have to spit it out and get a new one or let it be.
I don't try to start any arguments, I am just pretty sad to see people still complaining about ME3. In my opinion it was a great game. Now, I am sorry if many might not agree, but as I said it's just my opinion.
Just hope you all then have a better experience with either more ME coming up or simply different games.

That's not for you to decide though. If people stopped complaining completely then Bioware would think that everything is great now and that there's no need to try and improve on their next game. Maybe you have an issue with him saying it's a bad game, and that's fine. But his actual complaints about the game are sound. Bioware's reputation and future is in trouble now, and they need to shape up. Having every single fan shut up and just enjoy the game would do more harm than good.

That's a good point and I agree. I am not against critisism at all. I just think it's already all been said. Many people have already complained about what they didn't like and such. I am just still amazed over how many people still bring up the same stuff over and over. And as you said, there has to be complaint and improvement but also praise and compliment.

[chemiclord]

Methinks the OP doesn't really quite understand what a bad game is.

[SteffiSyndrom]

[quote]Shepard108278 wrote...

[quote]Oransel wrote...

That's right. It's a bad, mediocre game. 

Redeeming features:

Garrus
Tuchanka arc
Rannoch arc
Weapon mods
Smooth combat system

What makes it bad? (bolded the parts that are intolerable)

Auto-dialogue. Canon Shep.[/quote]
The auto dialogue was fine imo and you can still have your shep IMO.
[quote]Almost no side missions, but tons of fetch quests.[/quote]
For a game where war was breaking out I felt the ammount of side missions were fine.
[quote]No Galaxy exploration. No vehicles.[/quote]
I would have liked to use the hammerhead again other than that no issue and the galaxy exploration was exactly the same as the other games just minus the uncharted worlds. I see no issue here.
[quote]No ME2 characters as a squadmates or even proper LI's.[/quote]
Miranda and Jack were handled fine IMO and Thanes was understandable. Only one I could see as an issue is Jacob. As far as them as squaddies I would agree if the explanation for them not being there was bad. It wasn't.
[quote]Game is very short, compared to previous games.[/quote]
???? First playthrough was 30ish hours so not sure what you're getting at.
[quote]Crucible.[/quote]
No issue here.
[quote]Choices did not matter.[/quote]
Yes they do.
[quote]Introduction/beginning.[/quote]
I thought it was great.
[quote]Catalyst's existence.[/quote]
Again fine in my book.
[quote]Overall plot is very weak - Kai Leng power armor, Cerberus and so on.[/quote]
I don't agree at all.
[quote]Bugs. Tons of them.[/quote]
Not on my game. I encountered only a few.
[quote]Journal.[/quote]
Only thing I will agree with you on.
[quote]Endings.[/quote]
Endings are fine IMO.
[quote]Artistic integrity.[/quote]
They like any artist are proud of their work and I support them on their stance.
[quote]that stupid kid, and Shepard's nightmares about him.[/quote]
Made sense to me. Shep felt guilty over not being able to help him and the reapers used that to torment him/her.
[quote]
the rest of the games are irrelevant.
Insults from Bioware.[/quote]
No they arent and I never saw one insult from Bioware.

[quote]Bad game is bad.

[/quote]
I couldn't disagree more. ME is a great series and ME 3 is the best of them.

[/quote]

*thumbs up*

[SGT NOOBSTER]

I agree with SteffiSyndrom, well explained.

[Kel Riever]

'starchild' would not nearly be hated if he was a boy in a dream that Shepard needed to understand, or that would come to some revelation. Starchild turns into starbrat and I feel the dreams get hated because of the end. Just another reason why the end screws up what comes before it.

So I'll disagree that the dreams were a problem. They could have been great...and then the whole starchild mess turned it on its head.

You can also argue ME3 is a great series by opinion. You can't argue it is great by any standard. That is hyperbole and just silly.

[Kamfrenchie]

Artistic integrity and accusing the fans of taking quotes (of bioware promises) out of context qualify as insult.
So does the use of the fn reaction as advertisement

OP, you forgot about the spacebar does everyhing for pc. whoever designed this deserve damnation

shift for sprint, E for interaction, spacebar for cover, was it that hard to give us good accurate controls ?