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[t_i_e_]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Man.. BSN does very little but complain. This forum is just getting more, and more depressing.

Kind of like the developer, eh?

[3DandBeyond]

t_i_e_ wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Man.. BSN does very little but complain. This forum is just getting more, and more depressing.

Kind of like the developer, eh?

The discussions might be vastly different had artistic integrity actually meant something.  If it had then the story wouldn't have devolved into fantasyland at the end.

[Atakuma]

3DandBeyond wrote...

t_i_e_ wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Man.. BSN does very little but complain. This forum is just getting more, and more depressing.

Kind of like the developer, eh?

The discussions might be vastly different had artistic integrity actually meant something.  If it had then the story wouldn't have devolved into fantasyland at the end.

Because it was so grounded up until that point right?

[sistersafetypin]

Atakuma wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

t_i_e_ wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Man.. BSN does very little but complain. This forum is just getting more, and more depressing.

Kind of like the developer, eh?

The discussions might be vastly different had artistic integrity actually meant something.  If it had then the story wouldn't have devolved into fantasyland at the end.

Because it was so grounded up until that point right?

Had the ending not been so extremely bad... Then right now I'd be only playthrough 100, readying my wallet for new dlc, and coming on the board for tips during my slight breaks.

None of that happened. People are angry and will eventually move on.  

[Klijpope]

Hendrik.III wrote...

As a stand-alone game, it's not bad at all. As a conclusion to a choice-based, story-telling series, it's crap. Too bad they wanted it to be the first, so they could attract a bigger audience (and with it a bigger sack of $$$).

Since there is literally no other "conclusion to a choice-based, story-telling series" out there to compare it too, ME3 is best in class.

So as rating it as "standalone" is the only objectively valid comparison, yeah, ME3 is pretty good. As for in the ME series, they each have pros and cons, but overall, I think ME2 is my fave, and I can't decide between ME1 and ME3.

So, objectively, ME3 is certainly not a bad game; subjectively, YMMV.

[KotorEffect3]

o Ventus wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

bad thread is bad

Sycophant is sycophant.

Obvious troll is obvious?

Somebody doesn't know what a troll is...

... Or hasn't seen KotorEffect's posting history. Either one.

oh look who is ****ing about me again.  And he calls me a troll. 

[KotorEffect3]

t_i_e_ wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Man.. BSN does very little but complain. This forum is just getting more, and more depressing.

Kind of like the developer, eh?

Bioware games in general have not changed that much, the fanbase is just spoiled and whiney.  For some reason there are some on the bsn that just despise improved gameplay.

[o Ventus]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

bad thread is bad

Sycophant is sycophant.

Obvious troll is obvious?

Somebody doesn't know what a troll is...

... Or hasn't seen KotorEffect's posting history. Either one.

oh look who is ****ing about me again.  And he calls me a troll. 

Well, you are.

The only other explanation I can think of is "mentally deficient", but I don't think that's the problem.

[Taboo]

o Ventus wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

bad thread is bad

Sycophant is sycophant.

Obvious troll is obvious?

Somebody doesn't know what a troll is...

... Or hasn't seen KotorEffect's posting history. Either one.

oh look who is ****ing about me again.  And he calls me a troll. 

Well, you are.

The only other explanation I can think of is "mentally deficient", but I don't think that's the problem.

There's actually another word for it where I come from.

I can PM you that if you want.

[o Ventus]

Taboo-XX wrote...

There's actually another word for it where I come from.

I can PM you that if you want.

Why not?

[KotorEffect3]

o Ventus wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

bad thread is bad

Sycophant is sycophant.

Obvious troll is obvious?

Somebody doesn't know what a troll is...

... Or hasn't seen KotorEffect's posting history. Either one.

oh look who is ****ing about me again.  And he calls me a troll. 

Well, you are.

The only other explanation I can think of is "mentally deficient", but I don't think that's the problem.

You just hate the fact that I like something that you don't.  It drives you into a rage.

[o Ventus]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

You just hate the fact that I like something that you don't.  It drives you into a rage.

I don't care what you like. I don't care what you dislike.

But it's f**king annoying when you attack and harass people when they point out anything even remotely flawed with ME3. You're a sycophant.

[KotorEffect3]

o Ventus wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

You just hate the fact that I like something that you don't.  It drives you into a rage.

I don't care what you like. I don't care what you dislike.

But it's f**king annoying when you attack and harass people when they point out anything even remotely flawed with ME3. You're a sycophant.

An exaggeration,  I don't attack civilized criticism.  I attack whining, and seeing that you attack me non stop on any post I make (and no not all of my posts are about people I disagree with though you would assert that) you are hypocritical.  But this will get nowhere, you have a juvenile grudge.

[o Ventus]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

An exaggeration,  I don't attack civilized criticism.  I attack whining, and seeing that you attack me non stop on any post I make (and no not all of my posts are about people I disagree with though you would assert that) you are hypocritical.  But this will get nowhere, you have a juvenile grudge.

Yes, you do. Go find me a post where you're NOT attacking somebody who is criticizing ME3 and I'll concede my point.

And no, I don't attack you nonstop, not even remotely. Half, if not more, of your posts I flat-out ignore.

Nice assumptions though.

[Taboo]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

You just hate the fact that I like something that you don't.  It drives you into a rage.

I don't care what you like. I don't care what you dislike.

But it's f**king annoying when you attack and harass people when they point out anything even remotely flawed with ME3. You're a sycophant.

An exaggeration,  I don't attack civilized criticism.  I attack whining, and seeing that you attack me non stop on any post I make (and no not all of my posts are about people I disagree with though you would assert that) you are hypocritical.  But this will get nowhere, you have a juvenile grudge.

Actually he does provide valid criticism. All the time.

I just haven't figured out what you're trying to prove by barking at everyone Kotor.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 18 juillet 2012 - 07:19 .

[KotorEffect3]

o Ventus wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

An exaggeration,  I don't attack civilized criticism.  I attack whining, and seeing that you attack me non stop on any post I make (and no not all of my posts are about people I disagree with though you would assert that) you are hypocritical.  But this will get nowhere, you have a juvenile grudge.

Yes, you do. Go find me a post where you're NOT attacking somebody who is criticizing ME3 and I'll concede my point.

And no, I don't attack you nonstop, not even remotely. Half, if not more, of your posts I flat-out ignore.

Nice assumptions though.

If the OP had titled the thread differently I probably would have ignored it.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Oransel wrote...

That's right. It's a bad, mediocre game. 

Redeeming features:

Garrus
Tuchanka arc
Rannoch arc
Weapon mods
Smooth combat system

What makes it bad? (bolded the parts that are intolerable)

Auto-dialogue. Canon Shep. Core of the game is abandoned.
Almost no side missions, but tons of fetch quests. Fact.
No Galaxy exploration. No vehicles. No little missions on the faraway planets.
No ME2 characters as a squadmates or even proper LI's. Fact.
Game is very short, compared to previous games. I am not speaking about main plots only.
Crucible. Asspull.
Choices did not matter that much. Rachni, geth, Collectors base have little to no consequence. 
Introduction/beginning. Bad writing from a C-class movie about wars.
Catalyst's existence. Very badly written Deux Ex Machina.
Overall plot is very weak - Kai Leng power armor, Cerberus and so on. Bad writing.
Bugs. Tons of them. 
Journal. How hard was to implement it?
Endings. just bad even with EC they deserve 4/10
Artistic integrity.
that stupid kid, and Shepard's nightmares about him.
the rest of the games are irrelevant thanks to the endings.
Insults from Bioware.
Multipayer ruined Singleplayer

Bad game is bad.

fixed

[Pitznik]

DinoSteve wrote...


Multipayer ruined Singleplayer


fixed

How?

[KotorEffect3]

Pitznik wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...


Multipayer ruined Singleplayer


fixed

How?

They may have made SP too dependant on MP in order to get a good galactic readiness rating but the MP itself didn't hurt the SP.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

the time the other team spent on MP should have been spent on SP, disc space is smaller because of MP which means less SP, not to mention EMS, also MP is just plain ****e, also the way they implemented it with micro-transactions is just plain greedy.

[cshaff]

I "opinion" found much of the game "disappointing" for many of the reasons listed. However, much of the game was amazing. Mission after mission, I felt more engaged and invested than the other two games. Game play was also I thought the best, so good in fact, I now feel as though ME1 is unplayable and secretly "opinion" hope they redux it to fit with the gameplay of 2 and 3. I respect your opinion, however, I disagree with it. There are plenty of terrible games out there, this does not strike me as such.

[WarGriffin]

MP has a better representation on Kai Leng

[KotorEffect3]

cshaff wrote...

I "opinion" found much of the game "disappointing" for many of the reasons listed. However, much of the game was amazing. Mission after mission, I felt more engaged and invested than the other two games. Game play was also I thought the best, so good in fact, I now feel as though ME1 is unplayable and secretly "opinion" hope they redux it to fit with the gameplay of 2 and 3. I respect your opinion, however, I disagree with it. There are plenty of terrible games out there, this does not strike me as such.

I loved ME 1 back in the day and it was my favorite game out there but since the sequels came out the flaws I used to be able to overlook when playing ME 1 are harder to look over now since the sequels addressed those flaws and now ME 1 at times feels like a chore (depends what I am doing in ME 1, Virmire is still a ton of fun but those empty sidequest planets are a chore, but thanks to my compulsive nature I still do them).  Even with ME 3 being out ME 2 on the other hand does not feel like a chore.  I recently did a run through of the entire trilogy and I still enjoyed every minute of ME 2 and while I do enjoy ME 1 I find myself staying up late to finish it just to get Shepard imported into ME 2.

[veverkoi]

Oransel wrote...

That's right. It's a bad, mediocre game. 

Redeeming features:

Garrus
Tuchanka arc
Rannoch arc
Weapon mods
Smooth combat system

What makes it bad? (bolded the parts that are intolerable)

Auto-dialogue. Canon Shep. Core of the game is abandoned.
Almost no side missions, but tons of fetch quests. Fact.
No Galaxy exploration. No vehicles. No little missions on the faraway planets.
No ME2 characters as a squadmates or even proper LI's. Fact.
Game is very short, compared to previous games. I am not speaking about main plots only.
Crucible. Asspull.
Choices did not matter that much. Rachni, geth, Collectors base have little to no consequence. 
Introduction/beginning. Bad writing from a C-class movie about wars.
Catalyst's existence. Very badly written Deux Ex Machina.
Overall plot is very weak - Kai Leng power armor, Cerberus and so on. Bad writing.
Bugs. Tons of them. 
Journal. How hard was to implement it?
Endings. just bad even with EC they deserve 4/10
Artistic integrity.
that stupid kid, and Shepard's nightmares about him.
the rest of the games are irrelevant thanks to the endings.
Insults from Bioware.

Bad game is bad.

Another thing that bothers me alot but not alot of other people seem to mention. The fact that the big ass citadel was somehow towed, transported, jetpacked, teleported whatever through a relay that is TINY compared to the citadel. Remember sovereigns size compared to the citadel tower? Seen the EC control ending where the reapers repair a relay? A relay is just about 2, maaaybe 3 times the size of a reaper. 

Then that reapers did not shut off the relay network.. How they could seize the citadel so easy, why they didn't just do it in the beginning.

If the reapers had not taken the citadel and hauled it to earth then these plot holes would not have mattered. 

[k-mysta]

Oransel wrote...

That's right. It's a bad, mediocre game. 

Redeeming features:

Garrus
Tuchanka arc
Rannoch arc
Weapon mods
Smooth combat system

What makes it bad? (bolded the parts that are intolerable)

Auto-dialogue. Canon Shep. Core of the game is abandoned.
Almost no side missions, but tons of fetch quests. Fact.
No Galaxy exploration. No vehicles. No little missions on the faraway planets.
No ME2 characters as a squadmates or even proper LI's. Fact.
Game is very short, compared to previous games. I am not speaking about main plots only.
Crucible. Asspull.
Choices did not matter that much. Rachni, geth, Collectors base have little to no consequence. 
Introduction/beginning. Bad writing from a C-class movie about wars.
Catalyst's existence. Very badly written Deux Ex Machina.
Overall plot is very weak - Kai Leng power armor, Cerberus and so on. Bad writing.
Bugs. Tons of them. 
Journal. How hard was to implement it?
Endings. just bad even with EC they deserve 4/10
Artistic integrity.
that stupid kid, and Shepard's nightmares about him.
the rest of the games are irrelevant thanks to the endings.
Insults from Bioware.

Bad game is bad.

I'd say its a 7 or 8/10. It was engrossing but it did have the flaws you pointed out. Also, focus on Earth was annoying and I don't think the plot (before the End) was that poor. Still, it was entertaining but certainly not amazing