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[SpamBot2000]

Ilgar92 wrote...

Found this on youtube:

"Stockholders are entitled. EA can't start publishing good games just because the stockholders want their stocks to be worth something."

Good one, although still a misuse of the word "entitled". 

[KotorEffect3]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Man.. BSN does very little but complain. This forum is just getting more, and more depressing.

Full of spoiled rotten childish brats that can't appreciate a good game.  ME deserves a better fanbase.

[Marauder Shieldz]

Oransel wrote...

That's right. It's a bad, mediocre game. 

Redeeming features:

Garrus
Tuchanka arc
Rannoch arc
Weapon mods
Smooth combat system

What makes it bad? (bolded the parts that are intolerable)

Auto-dialogue. Canon Shep. Core of the game is abandoned.
Almost no side missions, but tons of fetch quests. Fact.
No Galaxy exploration. No vehicles. No little missions on the faraway planets.
No ME2 characters as a squadmates or even proper LI's. Fact.
Game is very short, compared to previous games. I am not speaking about main plots only.
Crucible. Asspull.
Choices did not matter that much. Rachni, geth, Collectors base have little to no consequence. 
Introduction/beginning. Bad writing from a C-class movie about wars.
Catalyst's existence. Very badly written Deux Ex Machina.
Overall plot is very weak - Kai Leng power armor, Cerberus and so on. Bad writing.
Bugs. Tons of them. 
Journal. How hard was to implement it?
Endings. just bad even with EC they deserve 4/10
Artistic integrity.
that stupid kid, and Shepard's nightmares about him.
the rest of the games are irrelevant thanks to the endings.
Insults from Bioware.

Bad game is bad.

1+ 

Pretty much what i think of ME3.

[Shepard108278]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Man.. BSN does very little but complain. This forum is just getting more, and more depressing.

Full of spoiled rotten childish brats that can't appreciate a good game.  ME deserves a better fanbase.

Agreed.

[AresKeith]

Shepard108278 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Man.. BSN does very little but complain. This forum is just getting more, and more depressing.

Full of spoiled rotten childish brats that can't appreciate a good game.  ME deserves a better fanbase.

not Agreed.

fixed that for you

[thefallen2far]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Man.. BSN does very little but complain. This forum is just getting more, and more depressing.

Full of spoiled rotten childish brats that can't appreciate a good game.  ME deserves a better fanbase.

Well, I'll give you 3 choices.

1. Accept this and desrtoy the internet, but in doing so detroy multiplayer
2. Accept it and control the internet.
3. Accept it and bcome one of us.

I'll give you a 4th option.
Don't accept it and I'll flip you off.

Modifié par thefallen2far, 21 juillet 2012 - 08:17 .

[Fireblader70]

If Mass Effect 3 is actually a bad game, then I'm glad I have a different version.

Mass Effect 3 is only a bad game when Big Rigs becomes a masterpiece of entertainment. And Superman 64. In my opinion, of course. And I could just be on a high right now after watching my favourite film 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'. But I digress.

[Ozida]

Shepard108278 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...
Man.. BSN does very little but complain. This forum is just getting more, and more depressing.

Full of spoiled rotten childish brats that can't appreciate a good game.  ME deserves a better fanbase.

Agreed.

Yeah, yeah, you liked the game, we get it. What are you still doing here then?

See, it doesn’t sound very nice when it is addressed to you, is it?

Modifié par Ozida, 21 juillet 2012 - 08:24 .

[kogunenjou]

Man, I'm so tired of hearing all these auto-dialogue complaints. Do you realize how many times (particularly in ME1) Shepard gave the same response regardless of which dialogue option you chose? And the fact that ME3, even with its auto-dialogue, has almost as much dialogue as ME1 and ME2 combined? Would I have liked to have seen more conversation options? Absolutely. Some of Shepard's responses were uncharacteristic of my canon Shepard. But it's an understandable option, given how much was going on in the game.

Another complaint: fetch quests. Are you kidding me? I'm replaying the series right now, and ME1's sidequests consist almost entirely of "hey, Shepard, go kill these bad guys". This is nothing new to the series. At least ME3 introduced some legitimate fetches to the fetch quest.

[darthoptimus003]

95% of it no
the other 5% {ending} hell yes EC included

[BatmanPWNS]

This is what liking ME3 will get you!

[AresKeith]

kogunenjou wrote...

Man, I'm so tired of hearing all these auto-dialogue complaints. Do you realize how many times (particularly in ME1) Shepard gave the same response regardless of which dialogue option you chose? And the fact that ME3, even with its auto-dialogue, has almost as much dialogue as ME1 and ME2 combined? Would I have liked to have seen more conversation options? Absolutely. Some of Shepard's responses were uncharacteristic of my canon Shepard. But it's an understandable option, given how much was going on in the game.

Another complaint: fetch quests. Are you kidding me? I'm replaying the series right now, and ME1's sidequests consist almost entirely of "hey, Shepard, go kill these bad guys". This is nothing new to the series. At least ME3 introduced some legitimate fetches to the fetch quest.

when your playing an RPG, people want to choice what their Character wants to say no matter what the convo is.

And killing Mercs, mechs, Cerberus, or Reapers in a side-mission would be much better than just scanning some planet for an item to gain a pointless War Asset that doesn't mean anything really

[Ozida]

kogunenjou wrote...

Man, I'm so tired of hearing all these auto-dialogue complaints. Do you realize how many times (particularly in ME1) Shepard gave the same response regardless of which dialogue option you chose? And the fact that ME3, even with its auto-dialogue, has almost as much dialogue as ME1 and ME2 combined? Would I have liked to have seen more conversation options? Absolutely. Some of Shepard's responses were uncharacteristic of my canon Shepard. But it's an understandable option, given how much was going on in the game.

Another complaint: fetch quests. Are you kidding me? I'm replaying the series right now, and ME1's sidequests consist almost entirely of "hey, Shepard, go kill these bad guys". This is nothing new to the series. At least ME3 introduced some legitimate fetches to the fetch quest.

You see, the problem that I have is that it suppose to be improved with each new game, not stay the same. Saying "Well, ME3 is just fine because ME1 had the exact same problems" is a bit... strange. It's like, waht, BW didn't learn anyting from the previous issues?
And everyone saying how drasticly the quality of images have improved in ME3... well, the graphic cards were improved in that time too. Why stick to the past and not make something better with your newer product? Many autodialogues in ME1? Well, then DON'T put them in ME3! Don't justify your mistakes with the argument that it was same lame thing in previous games.

[kogunenjou]

Ozida wrote...

kogunenjou wrote...

Man, I'm so tired of hearing all these auto-dialogue complaints. Do you realize how many times (particularly in ME1) Shepard gave the same response regardless of which dialogue option you chose? And the fact that ME3, even with its auto-dialogue, has almost as much dialogue as ME1 and ME2 combined? Would I have liked to have seen more conversation options? Absolutely. Some of Shepard's responses were uncharacteristic of my canon Shepard. But it's an understandable option, given how much was going on in the game.

Another complaint: fetch quests. Are you kidding me? I'm replaying the series right now, and ME1's sidequests consist almost entirely of "hey, Shepard, go kill these bad guys". This is nothing new to the series. At least ME3 introduced some legitimate fetches to the fetch quest.

You see, the problem that I have is that it suppose to be improved with each new game, not stay the same. Saying "Well, ME3 is just fine because ME1 had the exact same problems" is a bit... strange. It's like, waht, BW didn't learn anyting from the previous issues?
And everyone saying how drasticly the quality of images have improved in ME3... well, the graphic cards were improved in that time too. Why stick to the past and not make something better with your newer product? Many autodialogues in ME1? Well, then DON'T put them in ME3! Don't justify your mistakes with the argument that it was same lame thing in previous games.

My point wasn't to justify the faults. It was to point out that these problems have always been there, despite the great amounts of love for both ME1 and ME2. If ME1 and ME2 were both great games despite these problems, why would you say ME3 is a bad game?

I wasn't making excuses for Bioware, just saying that if you're gonna call one game in the series bad, then you gotta do it for the other games with the same problems.

[shepdog77]

I disagree. Mass Effect 3 is a great game.

[Ozida]

kogunenjou wrote...
My point wasn't to justify the faults. It was to point out that these problems have always been there, despite the great amounts of love for both ME1 and ME2. If ME1 and ME2 were both great games despite these problems, why would you say ME3 is a bad game?

I wasn't making excuses for Bioware, just saying that if you're gonna call one game in the series bad, then you gotta do it for the other games with the same problems.

It is a fair point, so I agree. Personally I had a higher expectations that they would fix it in ME3, so it aded to dissapointment. But what you said is fair.

However, personaly I find there are more issues with ME3 than two above that you have mentioned, so in combination, it makes it an average, if not to say, bad game for me.

[Oransel]

Consensus of this thread - game is flawed, compared to previous ME games, but opinions are divided 50/50 between those who accept such a drop in quality and those who do not. As a standalone, yes, this is good game. However, I can not ignore past 2 games and what ME3 should have been. This makes ME3 bad.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Oransel wrote...

Consensus of this thread - game is flawed, compared to previous ME games, but opinions are divided 50/50 between those who accept such a drop in quality and those who do not. As a standalone, yes, this is good game. However, I can not ignore past 2 games and what ME3 should have been. This makes ME3 bad.

+1

ME3 isn't just 'bad' (although I would use a different word, perhaps exceedingly disappointing) it offers 0 replay value for a lot of people.

[FlamingBoy]

in case i haven't posted, just to spread the hate,

I hated me3, it was insulting, for many reasons, OP post is a good guideline of why

[jetfire118]

thefallen2far wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Man.. BSN does very little but complain. This forum is just getting more, and more depressing.

Full of spoiled rotten childish brats that can't appreciate a good game.  ME deserves a better fanbase.

Well, I'll give you 3 choices.

1. Accept this and desrtoy the internet, but in doing so detroy multiplayer
2. Accept it and control the internet.
3. Accept it and bcome one of us.

I'll give you a 4th option.
Don't accept it and I'll flip you off.

I was just about to ask wheres the refuse option? LOL! then i saw it xD

[Marauder Shieldz]

Oransel wrote...

That's right. It's a bad, mediocre game. 

Redeeming features:

Garrus
Tuchanka arc
Rannoch arc
Weapon mods
Smooth combat system

What makes it bad? (bolded the parts that are intolerable)

Auto-dialogue. Canon Shep. Core of the game is abandoned.
Almost no side missions, but tons of fetch quests. Fact.
No Galaxy exploration. No vehicles. No little missions on the faraway planets.
No ME2 characters as a squadmates or even proper LI's. Fact.
Game is very short, compared to previous games. I am not speaking about main plots only.
Crucible. Asspull.
Choices did not matter that much. Rachni, geth, Collectors base have little to no consequence. 
Introduction/beginning. Bad writing from a C-class movie about wars.
Catalyst's existence. Very badly written Deux Ex Machina.
Overall plot is very weak - Kai Leng power armor, Cerberus and so on. Bad writing.
Bugs. Tons of them. 
Journal. How hard was to implement it?
Endings. just bad even with EC they deserve 4/10
Artistic integrity.
that stupid kid, and Shepard's nightmares about him.
the rest of the games are irrelevant thanks to the endings.
Tali's face.
Diana Allers.
Multiplayer affecting Singleplayer.
Citadel being moved through Relays.
Insults from Bioware.

Bad game is bad.

Somebody understands!

[Femlob]

Oransel wrote...

Consensus of this thread - game is flawed, compared to previous ME games, but opinions are divided 50/50 between those who accept such a drop in quality and those who do not. As a standalone, yes, this is good game. However, I can not ignore past 2 games and what ME3 should have been. This makes ME3 bad.

Pretty much.

If I hadn't played ME1 and ME2 I'd still have gone major "WTF" with the whole GlowBoy ending, but far fewer shits would have been given.

Ironically, the net result is the same: me trading in ME3 for something with replay value.