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Jadebaby wrote...

I'm pretty sure the Mattock was standard.

Firepower pack

Modifié par OperatingWookie, 02 février 2013 - 09:12 .

[Jadebaby]

AresKeith wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

I'm pretty sure the Mattock was standard, however to answer your original question Ignis, I believe a lot of people were upset about Harbinger and just the overall direction ME2 in regards to the reaper plot... I don't understand it either...

I have a special friend who is going to be doing a comparison on the Alamo and the Miracle of Palaven, should be interesting

I kinda understand the reason people were upset with the ME2 plot regarding the Reapers, but I still enjoyed ME2 overall because the characters

I don't, everyone knew this would be a trilogy so it should have been expected that the 2nd wouldn't advance the plot much..

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Jadebaby wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

I'm pretty sure the Mattock was standard, however to answer your original question Ignis, I believe a lot of people were upset about Harbinger and just the overall direction ME2 in regards to the reaper plot... I don't understand it either...

I have a special friend who is going to be doing a comparison on the Alamo and the Miracle of Palaven, should be interesting

I kinda understand the reason people were upset with the ME2 plot regarding the Reapers, but I still enjoyed ME2 overall because the characters

I don't, everyone knew this would be a trilogy so it should have been expected that the 2nd wouldn't advance the plot much..

Yeah, but you have to admit, some of the loyalty missions felt a bit forced and unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

They were nice, and had great characterization, but were somewhat irrelevant to the actual plot.

I just found it somewhat silly that squadmates die if you don't love them enough. There should have been more factors than that. But of course, that's just me being a critic.

[AresKeith]

OperatingWookie wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

I'm pretty sure the Mattock was standard, however to answer your original question Ignis, I believe a lot of people were upset about Harbinger and just the overall direction ME2 in regards to the reaper plot... I don't understand it either...

I have a special friend who is going to be doing a comparison on the Alamo and the Miracle of Palaven, should be interesting

I kinda understand the reason people were upset with the ME2 plot regarding the Reapers, but I still enjoyed ME2 overall because the characters

I don't, everyone knew this would be a trilogy so it should have been expected that the 2nd wouldn't advance the plot much..

Yeah, but you have to admit, some of the loyalty missions felt a bit forced and unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

They were nice, and had great characterization, but were somewhat irrelevant to the actual plot.

I just found it somewhat silly that squadmates die if you don't love them enough. There should have been more factors than that. But of course, that's just me being a critic.

Well they could still die on the Suicide Mission if you order the wrong person

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AresKeith wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

I'm pretty sure the Mattock was standard, however to answer your original question Ignis, I believe a lot of people were upset about Harbinger and just the overall direction ME2 in regards to the reaper plot... I don't understand it either...

I have a special friend who is going to be doing a comparison on the Alamo and the Miracle of Palaven, should be interesting

I kinda understand the reason people were upset with the ME2 plot regarding the Reapers, but I still enjoyed ME2 overall because the characters

I don't, everyone knew this would be a trilogy so it should have been expected that the 2nd wouldn't advance the plot much..

Yeah, but you have to admit, some of the loyalty missions felt a bit forced and unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

They were nice, and had great characterization, but were somewhat irrelevant to the actual plot.

I just found it somewhat silly that squadmates die if you don't love them enough. There should have been more factors than that. But of course, that's just me being a critic.

Well they could still die on the Suicide Mission if you order the wrong person

Well, yeah, but the game basically hinted to you about who to pick.

It's not as much of a suicide mission, and more of an epic frolic. It's pretty cool and epic though.

[Jadebaby]

Just lastly here, because I really want this thread to get back on topic...

It wasn't about giving your squadmates "love" or they die, it was about getting them focused on the mission... That which they could not do unless their personal stuff was sorted out first.

It was a really smart way to do it imho.

[AresKeith]

So Jade, what do you think about that one DLC teaser pic?

[Jadebaby]

there were two... weren't there?

[AresKeith]

Jadebaby wrote...

there were two... weren't there?

Yea, but one was for MP and the other for SP

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Jadebaby wrote...

Just lastly here, because I really want this thread to get back on topic...

It wasn't about giving your squadmates "love" or they die, it was about getting them focused on the mission... That which they could not do unless their personal stuff was sorted out first.

It was a really smart way to do it imho.

I'll give you that point.
 You win.

Modifié par OperatingWookie, 02 février 2013 - 11:23 .

[Jadebaby]

AresKeith wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

there were two... weren't there?

Yea, but one was for MP and the other for SP

that's speculation.

[AresKeith]

Jadebaby wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

there were two... weren't there?

Yea, but one was for MP and the other for SP

that's speculation.

Nope

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AresKeith wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

there were two... weren't there?

Yea, but one was for MP and the other for SP

that's speculation.

Nope

The images are official, are they not?

[Jadebaby]

Yes but what they pertain too (be it SP or MP) is purely speculation.

[AresKeith]

Jadebaby wrote...

Yes but what they pertain too (be it SP or MP) is purely speculation.

Not when you can tell by the picture that the Krogan Warhammer is MP

[Jadebaby]

how?

since this is on-topic...

[AresKeith]

Jadebaby wrote...

how?

since this is on-topic...

He has a shotgun on his back, so unless he's a new squadmate its a new MP character

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AresKeith wrote...

Jadebaby wrote...

how?

since this is on-topic...

He has a shotgun on his back, so unless he's a new squadmate its a new MP character

It also says Mass Effect 3: Reckoning on the pic as well.

[Jadebaby]

So the wonderful BringBackNihlus has finished his assessment of the parallels between the Miracle on Palaven, and operation Alamo, and I think it could be safe to say that this was the Miracle on Palaven...

Warning, incoming wall-of-text...

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"This is one of, if not the, most interesting operations of Mass Effect 3's multiplayer - Operation: Alamo. The fact that the objective takes place on Firebase: Condor (on Menae, the turian Alamo - "If we lose this moon, we lose Palaven." -- and you have to defeat waves of enemies without going down for the objective goal) immediately brings the comparisons between the Battle on Palaven and the Battle of the Alamo. There is a lot of background to the Texas Revolution and the Reaper War, but for the sake of time and length (and my sanity), I will try to cover four specific events - the Battle of the Alamo/The Battle of Palaven and the Battle of San Jacinto/The Miracle at Palaven. I'm not going incredibly in-depth here, but just covering the basics. For the comparison, Palaven is Texas (Menae acting as the Alamo), the turians are the Texian army (while the krogan act as the people who join the Texian army after their defeat at the Alamo) and the Reapers are the Mexican army. You could also call the Fall of Taetrus and some of the Battle of Palaven the skirmishes that take place outside of the Alamo leading up the the Mexican army's final assault, if you'd like.

In essence, the turians and Texians were facing the same thing - just on different scales. An invading force who wanted to take (back, in the Mexican army's case) a fortified position(s) (in Menae's case, many bases). The Texian garrison at the Alamo was completely unprepared for the arrival of Santa Anna's army; William B. Travis wrote many times, pleading for reinforcements and supplies, but his pleas were only answered with minimal troops and supply; not nearly enough to defend the Alamo from the Mexican forces. Parallels can be made to Garrus talking to his father about all he had seen with Shepard, and the Reapers imminent return - with his father then going to the turian Primarch about gearing up for the fight with the Reapers (and got his "task force"). Neither got what they wanted (and needed), and the Texians and turians ended up paying for it.

There were several skirmishes fought outside of the Alamo, but the assault got underway on March 6th. With the lack of supplies and men, the Texians were only able to fend two waves (one short of the bronze survivor medal on Mass Effect 3's MP, by the way). A valiant effort was made, but every Texian defending the Alamo that day died; even those who had surrendered. Thus began "The Runaway Scrape" - the retreat of the Texian army, most Texas settlers and the Republic of Texas government from the Mexican army's advance. The Texians lost the Alamo and had to retreat, while the turians were losing bases on Menae to Reapers.

After the fall of the Alamo, the callous and cruel nature of Santa Anna's acts during the battle had a galvanizing effect on Texas settlers and adventures from around the United States, and more joined the Texians to fight the Mexican army. This is where the krogan parallel comes in, and this is where both tides of the battles turn; though, the krogan team with the turians for different reasons - a mutually beneficial partnership. This is where we have the Battle of San Jacinto and the Miracle on Palaven. The ease of victory (and lack thereof for the turians/krogan) was one of the few major differences here. The Texian army easily defeated the Mexican forces (in just 18 minutes, when the Texians were still outnumbered by over 400) capturing Santa Anna in the process and pushed them out of the Republic of Texas for good. The turians and and krogan were able to finally mount a major offensive on the Reapers by using diversion tactics and smuggling bombs in Reaper processing ships, troop transports, destroyers and even capital ships. The price they paid was steep, but the turians were able to reclaim control over areas of their home planet."

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I am going to add a hyperlink under the alamo's operation section on the homepage for people to read this..

What do you think about the comparison BSN?

[Ignis Mors]

Jadebaby wrote...

So the wonderful BringBackNihlus has finished his assessment of the parallels between the Miracle on Palaven, and operation Alamo, and I think it could be safe to say that this was the Miracle on Palaven...

Warning, incoming wall-of-text...

__________________________

"This is one of, if not the, most interesting operations of Mass Effect 3's multiplayer - Operation: Alamo. The fact that the objective takes place on Firebase: Condor (on Menae, the turian Alamo - "If we lose this moon, we lose Palaven." -- and you have to defeat waves of enemies without going down for the objective goal) immediately brings the comparisons between the Battle on Palaven and the Battle of the Alamo. There is a lot of background to the Texas Revolution and the Reaper War, but for the sake of time and length (and my sanity), I will try to cover four specific events - the Battle of the Alamo/The Battle of Palaven and the Battle of San Jacinto/The Miracle at Palaven. I'm not going incredibly in-depth here, but just covering the basics. For the comparison, Palaven is Texas (Menae acting as the Alamo), the turians are the Texian army (while the krogan act as the people who join the Texian army after their defeat at the Alamo) and the Reapers are the Mexican army. You could also call the Fall of Taetrus and some of the Battle of Palaven the skirmishes that take place outside of the Alamo leading up the the Mexican army's final assault, if you'd like.

In essence, the turians and Texians were facing the same thing - just on different scales. An invading force who wanted to take (back, in the Mexican army's case) a fortified position(s) (in Menae's case, many bases). The Texian garrison at the Alamo was completely unprepared for the arrival of Santa Anna's army; William B. Travis wrote many times, pleading for reinforcements and supplies, but his pleas were only answered with minimal troops and supply; not nearly enough to defend the Alamo from the Mexican forces. Parallels can be made to Garrus talking to his father about all he had seen with Shepard, and the Reapers imminent return - with his father then going to the turian Primarch about gearing up for the fight with the Reapers (and got his "task force"). Neither got what they wanted (and needed), and the Texians and turians ended up paying for it.

There were several skirmishes fought outside of the Alamo, but the assault got underway on March 6th. With the lack of supplies and men, the Texians were only able to fend two waves (one short of the bronze survivor medal on Mass Effect 3's MP, by the way). A valiant effort was made, but every Texian defending the Alamo that day died; even those who had surrendered. Thus began "The Runaway Scrape" - the retreat of the Texian army, most Texas settlers and the Republic of Texas government from the Mexican army's advance. The Texians lost the Alamo and had to retreat, while the turians were losing bases on Menae to Reapers.

After the fall of the Alamo, the callous and cruel nature of Santa Anna's acts during the battle had a galvanizing effect on Texas settlers and adventures from around the United States, and more joined the Texians to fight the Mexican army. This is where the krogan parallel comes in, and this is where both tides of the battles turn; though, the krogan team with the turians for different reasons - a mutually beneficial partnership. This is where we have the Battle of San Jacinto and the Miracle on Palaven. The ease of victory (and lack thereof for the turians/krogan) was one of the few major differences here. The Texian army easily defeated the Mexican forces (in just 18 minutes, when the Texians were still outnumbered by over 400) capturing Santa Anna in the process and pushed them out of the Republic of Texas for good. The turians and and krogan were able to finally mount a major offensive on the Reapers by using diversion tactics and smuggling bombs in Reaper processing ships, troop transports, destroyers and even capital ships. The price they paid was steep, but the turians were able to reclaim control over areas of their home planet."

__________________________

I am going to add a hyperlink under the alamo's operation section on the homepage for people to read this..

What do you think about the comparison BSN?

It's very well done, and makes a lot of sense. Makes me look at that operation in a whole new light. 

[SilentStep79]

Ignis Mors wrote...

It's very well done, and makes a lot of sense. Makes me look at that operation in a whole new light. 

[Red Panda]

Nicely done...

[Ignis Mors]

 Mass Effect 2 is no longer my favorite game ever. Now, I prefer Super Scribblenauts, because YOU CAN SUMMON A PENGUIN WEARING A TOP HAT AND MONOCLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ignis Mors wrote...

 Mass Effect 2 is no longer my favorite game ever. Now, I prefer Super Scribblenauts, because YOU CAN SUMMON A PENGUIN WEARING A TOP HAT AND MONOCLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ignis Mors]

OperatingWookie wrote...

Ignis Mors wrote...

 Mass Effect 2 is no longer my favorite game ever. Now, I prefer Super Scribblenauts, because YOU CAN SUMMON A PENGUIN WEARING A TOP HAT AND MONOCLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm very easily satisfied. If a game lets me summon a penguin wearing a top hat and have it fight cthulhu, I will love it.