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#76
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I love these theories, but no, it's not going to happen. The Crucible is a major part of the plot, even if it is in the background most of the game. Even in the refusal ending, the next cycle uses the Crucible to defeat the Reapers. BW's not going to throw their main plot device out the airlock. I appreciate the effort on this, and it's a testament to both how bad the ending is and how devoted (or is that disappointed) some fans really are.

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JamieCOTC wrote...

I love these theories, but no, it's not going to happen. The Crucible is a major part of the plot, even if it is in the background most of the game. Even in the refusal ending, the next cycle uses the Crucible to defeat the Reapers. BW's not going to throw their main plot device out the airlock. I appreciate the effort on this, and it's a testament to both how bad the ending is and how devoted (or is that disappointed) some fans really are.


The crucible could be a Reaper trap, manipulation is a Reaper MO. And I'm not really buying the Catalyst's bs when he says "err we thought the crucible's plans had been lost in time."

Lies, if the Reapers knew ABOUT the crucible, then it's easy to assume they could have corrupted it in some way.. The fact we have Synthesis as an option, proves this.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

I love these theories, but no, it's not going to happen. The Crucible is a major part of the plot, even if it is in the background most of the game. Even in the refusal ending, the next cycle uses the Crucible to defeat the Reapers. BW's not going to throw their main plot device out the airlock. I appreciate the effort on this, and it's a testament to both how bad the ending is and how devoted (or is that disappointed) some fans really are.


The crucible could be a Reaper trap, manipulation is a Reaper MO. And I'm not really buying the Catalyst's bs when he says "err we thought the crucible's plans had been lost in time."

Lies, if the Reapers knew ABOUT the crucible, then it's easy to assume they could have corrupted it in some way.. The fact we have Synthesis as an option, proves this.


I’ll do you one better.  The Protheans were working on the Crucible, but a splinter group sabotaged them from within, claiming it would be better to control the Reapers.  It was later discovered the separatists were indoctrinated.  Therefore the Reapers and the Catalyst HAD to know the Crucible was still viable.  Also, the Crucible is little more than a power source, but it can change the Catalyst?  Whaaaa?   The EC contributes so many inconsistencies it’s mind boggling.  It’s just bad writing.  Still, it’s always fun to speculate and you’ve got a fun theory here, but I wouldn’t hold out any hope on it.

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I know one of the unlocked systems on the galaxy map is Omega. What are the other ones?

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Oh lawd more theories

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kookie28 wrote...

Oh lawd more theories


http://t0.gstatic.co...XAJU1Oimszcgb8M

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TheMerchantMan wrote...

I had this theory about the MP "operations" too. Why would they bother including all these operations to push back the Reapers unless there is something behind it. 


To keep the player engaged? I do wonder though, what happens when the MP timeline catches up with the SP.:blink:

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pirate1802 wrote...

TheMerchantMan wrote...

I had this theory about the MP "operations" too. Why would they bother including all these operations to push back the Reapers unless there is something behind it. 


To keep the player engaged? I do wonder though, what happens when the MP timeline catches up with the SP.:blink:


The galaxy eats itself.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

TheMerchantMan wrote...

I had this theory about the MP "operations" too. Why would they bother including all these operations to push back the Reapers unless there is something behind it. 


To keep the player engaged? I do wonder though, what happens when the MP timeline catches up with the SP.:blink:


The galaxy eats itself.


Thats why I don't play MP. :mellow:

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

I love these theories, but no, it's not going to happen. The Crucible is a major part of the plot, even if it is in the background most of the game. Even in the refusal ending, the next cycle uses the Crucible to defeat the Reapers. BW's not going to throw their main plot device out the airlock. I appreciate the effort on this, and it's a testament to both how bad the ending is and how devoted (or is that disappointed) some fans really are.


The crucible could be a Reaper trap, manipulation is a Reaper MO. And I'm not really buying the Catalyst's bs when he says "err we thought the crucible's plans had been lost in time."

Lies, if the Reapers knew ABOUT the crucible, then it's easy to assume they could have corrupted it in some way.. The fact we have Synthesis as an option, proves this.


In the Marauder Shields comic, the Crucible turns out to be a massive indoctrination device. I thought it was a great twist and believable idea. Much more appropriate for the last ten minutes than "Oh yeah, the Reapers, the ones you fought for the past 3 games. Yeah... they were just lackeys..."

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Leviathan DLC adds dialogue to the extended cut, so TPT is still a possibility, maybe once it is all said and done.

What more satisfying way to conclude the game than to reject the antagonist's DEM and win on your own terms?

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Leviathan DLC adds dialogue to the extended cut, so TPT is still a possibility, maybe once it is all said and done.

What more satisfying way to conclude the game than to reject the antagonist's DEM and win on your own terms?


Exactly! I really am starting to believe that these preface endings are just a base level. Then through dlc and MP operations, we will get the result we need in the end. Because Reapers are tough sob's to kill. It will all make sense how it is structured.

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The ending's aren't 'changing', but additional ones aren't off the table yet. I mean Bioware flat out said 'no new endings', yet we got the refuse addition.

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ShepnTali wrote...

The ending's aren't 'changing', but additional ones aren't off the table yet. I mean Bioware flat out said 'no new endings', yet we got the refuse addition.


It´s pointless to believe their PR office, it´s like dealing with Satan -_-

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bump 4 updated OP, it actually looks like a proper theory now! =D

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

bump 4 updated OP, it actually looks like a proper theory now! =D


Multiplayer might be tied into this as well.

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Try and work the Hackett speech from Monday into your theory. I sense something cryptic in there.

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the only new ending i would like to see is not gonna happen.

so at this point i really don't need another ending related dlc. if however they somehow manage to wrap some new ending related content into new missions then this is fine ofc.

but i think its possible that those conversations about leviathan found in the EC could be there because how two dlc work with eachother. we could also assume that there is some other content in EC which acts as empty placeholders for audio and assets to allow one dlc to alter another. (or at least how dlc released later can alter dlc already installed)
if this is true then leviathan would be the only one that alter the endings as there are no other conversations found in the EC (and i'm sure the guy who found it would find more if there is more).

anyway, leviathan (as additional ending content) could be a way for BW to get some more fans back as there were people who actualy wanted to pay for another ending.

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ShepnTali wrote...

Try and work the Hackett speech from Monday into your theory. I sense something cryptic in there.


Done and updated.

Also @ V3par, what ending would you like to see? Out of curiousity...

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

bump 4 updated OP, it actually looks like a proper theory now! =D


Multiplayer might be tied into this as well.


It is. If you can see it, Hackett's speech is more than just flavor.

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ShepnTali wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

bump 4 updated OP, it actually looks like a proper theory now! =D


Multiplayer might be tied into this as well.


It is. If you can see it, Hackett's speech is more than just flavor.


yea thanks, I added the section to the OP and credited you.

What do you find as the most strange part about the speech? Mine is the stuff about media and 'playing god'.

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Yeah, that and bringing hope to billions while some will be enraged. Who needs the hope? I think it's clear. Who are the some that are raged? Speculate, speculate.


We need more members. I'm officially onboard. Maybe we need hats.

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I've been wondering if Hackett's event recap speeches might have something to do with in game events. Maybe a DLC. It would be cool if they worked that in, them having this planned wouldn't be a stretch since they've been doing the MP events since soon after launch.

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I didn't know there's a Hackett speech after every event. Makes sense.

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Yea, I will have a look through the other operation reports, but I think their was some sort of significance of the Earth operation. They did rescue a Helium 3 Magnate, which (in ME) Helium 3 is used to power ships. In Leviathan your on a ship...? Speculations again.

@ShepnTali, yes more members would be great haha. Sadly I think most people are just sick of speculating after 5 months.