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[Jadebaby]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I wouldn't mind if they finally dropped a successful "refuse" ending (that really would be the most satisfying way to end the game), but I'm not sure if they will, much less that such an elaborate "real ending" plan is feasible. If we've learned anything over the years, it's that EA/Bioware can be quite scatterbrained and short-sighted when it comes to the big picture.

If "Puzzle Theory" is true, however, then I'm faced with a personal conundrum. On one hand, I'd willingly pay through the nose to "fix" ME3. On the other hand, this is dirty salesmanship at its best--why the hell should I pay for a game twice? Ick ick double ick.

I agree it's dirty salesmanship, but look over at the MP and the microtransactions? Look at the From Ashes day 1 dlc. Look at them selling all the exclusive Collector's Edition items... It's all they care about.

Back onto topic though, I've been thinking about changing this thread a bit. Because I'm not so sure a successful refuse is how it's going to play out. But one thing I am getting more and more certain of is that their is a strong relationship between the SP and the MP. That has to result in something for the SP campaign ending. It has to.

SO i've been thinking about taking the PT and changing it from revolving around a succesful refuse ending to revolving around the endings in general having a "twist". Whether it be IT, PT, ET or a cup of tea. They could all fit into this theory as a subsection of "Ways it could happen/play out?"

Any thoughts on this?

[dreamgazer]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

... it seems though that people are sick of speculating.

Long passed that stage.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 15 octobre 2012 - 02:21 .

[xsamplexample]

flanny wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

no that's deluded.

There's not going to be a high ems conventional clean victory as it would both completely undermine the existing endings as well the whole narrative of ME3(build the crucible because conventional victory is impossible). Endings are passable now even if the crucible/catalyst plot is weak.

how much more undermined can it get?

THIS COULD WORK.  I like this theory.  a clean refusal, through all DLC... hmmm.  thats not nessesarily changing the ending, is it?  

[devSin]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Any thoughts on this?

I think you're clinging to false hope.

But you may as well. It's probably the most amount of satisfaction you're going to be able to get out of all this nonsense.

Good luck.

Modifié par devSin, 15 octobre 2012 - 04:48 .

[Jadebaby]

lol. can you specify a bit more devSin?

[lex0r11]

Sick of speculating?





But seriously, all things have to end eventually.

[devSin]

It was just what I thought of when I read your statement.

You seem certain that something is coming, even though you no longer believe you know what it is.

I'd call it the "This really can't be all there is, can it? Really? Please?" theory. Truthfully, it still sounds a bit like denial to me. The multiplayer events are playing out according to the single-player campaign, but I don't believe they're setting up any big revelation. It's just a way to make multiplayer feel more involved than story-less horde mode.

Modifié par devSin, 15 octobre 2012 - 05:10 .

[Jadebaby]

I disagree.

[saintjimmy43]

Hey, I think it's the denial theory, and I'm still behind it. Not just "a twist," but a whole success refuse ending, I mean.
It's not like you get points for being wrong or right. I'm pretty sure most discussions of the plot boil down to "I wish the game was this way."
Well, I wish the game was this way.

[saintjimmy43]

Don't change it to try and incorporate other theories. Seriously, if people want to discuss those, they'll just mosey over to those threads. This thread is the "successful refuse - Puzzle Theory" thread. Emphasis on the theory.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I disagree.

I agree with your disagreement. I think I know where you're headed. It's not going to be resolved in ME3, but in the next game. The ending of ME3 is a cliff-hanger.

We've discussed this. It involves an indoctrination attempt from the Catalyst. The slide show was bullexcrement. The endings were garbage. The crucible destroyed the reapers. The cliff-hanger is the destroy ending. High EMS gave us the easter egg which is the big clue, and why they're not going to change the ending.

It's going to make a lot of people upset, but then it'll be interesting to see how they handle it. They can't write three games. They are not going to set synthesis as the canon. Nor are they going to write it off control. And they are writing the next game now. Hold on, it could be a wild ride.

[Charles Rosemberg]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I disagree.

I agree with your disagreement. I think I know where you're headed. It's not going to be resolved in ME3, but in the next game. The ending of ME3 is a cliff-hanger.

We've discussed this. It involves an indoctrination attempt from the Catalyst. The slide show was bullexcrement. The endings were garbage. The crucible destroyed the reapers. The cliff-hanger is the destroy ending. High EMS gave us the easter egg which is the big clue, and why they're not going to change the ending.

It's going to make a lot of people upset, but then it'll be interesting to see how they handle it. They can't write three games. They are not going to set synthesis as the canon. Nor are they going to write it off control. And they are writing the next game now. Hold on, it could be a wild ride.

It WILL be a wild ride, Im sure of that that 

[ld1449]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I disagree.

I agree with your disagreement. I think I know where you're headed. It's not going to be resolved in ME3, but in the next game. The ending of ME3 is a cliff-hanger.

We've discussed this. It involves an indoctrination attempt from the Catalyst. The slide show was bullexcrement. The endings were garbage. The crucible destroyed the reapers. The cliff-hanger is the destroy ending. High EMS gave us the easter egg which is the big clue, and why they're not going to change the ending.

It's going to make a lot of people upset, but then it'll be interesting to see how they handle it. They can't write three games. They are not going to set synthesis as the canon. Nor are they going to write it off control. And they are writing the next game now. Hold on, it could be a wild ride.

No offense, but are we adding points to the delusion skill right now?

ME4 is a pipe dream. No one would give the green light on a project that got this much backlash. I heard people were thinking of pulling nominations for Game of the year, which is unheard of for a tripple A title of its size and budget. They always AT LEAST get nominated even if they dont win.

They would have to go on a hope and prayer that without fixing THIS ending, people would be willing to buy the next installment. Then they would have to bank on the hope and prayer that MAYBE they'll get enough new people out of the people they've already lost that arent coming back even if they DO fix the ending (yes they do exist)

X million dollars is a lot to gamble on a vague, wild hope. If ME4 exists I'll eat my own shoe.

[Alez Zinai]

ld1449 wrote...
No offense, but are we adding points to the delusion skill right now?

ME4 is a pipe dream. .... If ME4 exists I'll eat my own shoe.

below quote from now closed "One Last Plea - Do the Right Thing" topic started by 3DandBeyond

Chris Priestly wrote...
Casey Hudson has said it. Mac Walters has said it. I have sadi it. I
will say it again. The Extended Cut is the "end of the endings". While
there is more DLC coming for both Single & Multiplay and that
DLC may have some effect on the endings (such as the new dialog with teh
Catalyst from Leviathan), there are no mote endings for Mass Effect 3
planned.

You can continue to hope and you can believe what I say
or not. It is true that things do change given enough time (This is not
lying, plans do change. Take for example that ME1 will now be coming to
the PS3 as an example). That said the team is not currently working on
new/more endings and has no plan to start. We are working on ME3 DLC and
teh new Mass Effect game, not new endings.

So there will be another ME game - but I highly doubt that it will be a sequel

Modifié par Alez Zinai, 16 octobre 2012 - 08:30 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

ld1449 wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I disagree.

I agree with your disagreement. I think I know where you're headed. It's not going to be resolved in ME3, but in the next game. The ending of ME3 is a cliff-hanger.

We've discussed this. It involves an indoctrination attempt from the Catalyst. The slide show was bullexcrement. The endings were garbage. The crucible destroyed the reapers. The cliff-hanger is the destroy ending. High EMS gave us the easter egg which is the big clue, and why they're not going to change the ending.

It's going to make a lot of people upset, but then it'll be interesting to see how they handle it. They can't write three games. They are not going to set synthesis as the canon. Nor are they going to write it off control. And they are writing the next game now. Hold on, it could be a wild ride.

No offense, but are we adding points to the delusion skill right now?

ME4 is a pipe dream. No one would give the green light on a project that got this much backlash. I heard people were thinking of pulling nominations for Game of the year, which is unheard of for a tripple A title of its size and budget. They always AT LEAST get nominated even if they dont win.

They would have to go on a hope and prayer that without fixing THIS ending, people would be willing to buy the next installment. Then they would have to bank on the hope and prayer that MAYBE they'll get enough new people out of the people they've already lost that arent coming back even if they DO fix the ending (yes they do exist)

X million dollars is a lot to gamble on a vague, wild hope. If ME4 exists I'll eat my own shoe.

They are writing an ME game right now. What I'm saying is that this game is going to pick up the cliff hanger at the end. They had to give an ending. It was the breath. Does Shepard live or die?

The Matrix Reloaded ending: Neo falls into a coma.

But they said the First Matrix ending. Neo dies, then Trinity brings Neo back to life --> This implies that Shepard's LI will rescue. I don't think in ME3, but in the beginning of the next game. OR in the final DLC with Puzzle Theory.

[azerSheppard]

nope

[KENNY4753]

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[Jadebaby]

KENNY4753 wrote...

 https://encrypted-tb...fsigDh-b2YRDWk7

Can he save us from the Catalyst?

[KENNY4753]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

 https://encrypted-tb...fsigDh-b2YRDWk7

Can he save us from the Catalyst?

Of course he can. He has even more  than the Starbrat does

[ld1449]

ME4 was *ahem* announced right after the doctors left. Hell on the same day the doctors left. That's A typical corporate speak that is equivalent to this:



To mention other games that have been "announced" and have yet to see the light of day.

Dawn of War 3

Advent rising 2

Kingdom under Fire 2.

With Chris throwing the words "Plans can always change" in the last four topics he's visited, the promise of ME4 holds about as much water as the star brats logic. People accuse Priestly and Bioware in general of being a known liars when denying things exist. That status doesn't conversely change when they're saying something you want to hear.

Trust me, ME4, without a fix in this game ME3, will not exist, or as I said I will eat my own shoe. Steel toed to heel I swear.

And they're not writing ME4 right now. They're writing their DLC right now if they have any real plans to continue their DLC plans considering that sales might be mediocre and after H4 and AC3 hit the shelves ME3 is going to be left behind by a lot of the players currently playing.

Modifié par ld1449, 16 octobre 2012 - 09:27 .

[saintjimmy43]

^The franchise hasn't been milked for every last dime yet. There will be a 4th. EA puts out a new terrible madden every year. you just gotta believe!

[MAF1994]

Jade, i have a question for you: Now that Bioware "officially" announced there will not be Shepard in future ME games, this may dismantle the pt?

I mean, if there isn't Shep in future games, why they should pull out a refusal victory? If I were in them I would leave it as "close ending", just for the fans, but...I dont'know.

In this period Bioware is very ambiguous about their market choices. What do you think?

[BansheeOwnage]

MAF1994 wrote...

Jade, i have a question for you: Now that Bioware "officially" announced there will not be Shepard in future ME games, this may dismantle the pt?

I mean, if there isn't Shep in future games, why they should pull out a refusal victory? If I were in them I would leave it as "close ending", just for the fans, but...I dont'know.

In this period Bioware is very ambiguous about their market choices. What do you think?

Puzzle theory isn't about ME4. It's about DLCs for ME3. So, no, that doesn't change anything. If the DLC brings closure to Shepard, I will embark on a new journey in ME4. If it does not, well, heads will roll.

[AresKeith]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MAF1994 wrote...

Jade, i have a question for you: Now that Bioware "officially" announced there will not be Shepard in future ME games, this may dismantle the pt?

I mean, if there isn't Shep in future games, why they should pull out a refusal victory? If I were in them I would leave it as "close ending", just for the fans, but...I dont'know.

In this period Bioware is very ambiguous about their market choices. What do you think?

Puzzle theory isn't about ME4. It's about DLCs for ME3. So, no, that doesn't change anything. If the DLC brings closure to Shepard, I will embark on a new journey in ME4. If it does not, well, heads will roll.

I think that goes for alot of people lol

[Jadebaby]

MAF1994 wrote...

Jade, i have a question for you: Now that Bioware "officially" announced there will not be Shepard in future ME games, this may dismantle the pt?

I mean, if there isn't Shep in future games, why they should pull out a refusal victory? If I were in them I would leave it as "close ending", just for the fans, but...I dont'know.

In this period Bioware is very ambiguous about their market choices. What do you think?

What Banshee said, but also they say a lot of things. While that's not to discredit absolutely everything they say. Who knows what the future will hold.

In saying that, a refusal victory could still be very valuable as a canon ending for a ME4 and so on. But I think that's hoping for a bit too much.