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[BansheeOwnage]

AresKeith wrote...

@Banshee you mean the whole Mass Effect series or just now?

If you're referring to planning, then both. End of lunch, got to go!

Edit: I'm on top!

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 23 novembre 2012 - 08:09 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Well let's see. There are two ways they can do this. IGN's poll shows the overwhelming number of fans want a sequel. Hudson is still asking fans what they want for a sequel. I think the writers are soiling their drawers trying to figure out how to get out of this mess they made with their posturing and trolling. We all know the refuse ending is the biggest middle finger we've seen from a game company to date.

The method is obvious. They can go with Puzzle Theory. This allows them to set a canon ending and proceed to the sequel without one of the ridiculous glowboy endings.

The downside is that it also will be the first time that a game company gets away with shipping an incomplete game, and they will get away with it because the original and EC were so bad that the fans will buy this just to get completion so they can finally move on.

The other way is to do the retcon from hell through the use of Elephant Theory and sweep the entire ME3 ending under the rug and pretend it never happened in the first place, that somehow the reapers got pulverized in the final battle, and make a post war sequel with Shepard.

[AlanC9]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

The idea of this theroy would be to pull those fans back in who deserted them. And any fans who truly cared about Shepard and their story and weren't just trolling on BioWare coz they made a crap ending, would buy the dlc. Heck, people who like the endings now would probably still buy it..

A successful refuse would be a bigger middle finger to me than the current one, and I don't even like the existing endings all that much.  It would make the entire game an incoherent mess; magically winning in the endgame because we really, really want to is even more magic than space magic. Hell, I'd prefer them to canonize IT.

Don't pretend there wouldn't be costs if Bio did this. Maybe they'd be worth paying, maybe not.

Edit: didn't particularly want to troll the thread, but I didn't figure this space is as much of an echo chamber as the main IT thread is.

Modifié par AlanC9, 23 novembre 2012 - 08:29 .

[Han Shot First]

Why am I just discovering this 'theory' after 4 months?

I may be a little late to the party, but let me just say that is theory will end up as dead as Indoctrination Theory. Like IT, this is just wishful thinking by those who really hate the RGB choices and want another option. Unfortunately for those who are hoping for another option, you are going to be stuck with RGB.

By the time ME3 is fully wrapped up and no more DLC is being released, the only endings where the Reaper invasion was stopped will be the existing Destroy, Control, and Synthesis choices. Refuse will still be an epic fail ending where every existing space faring civilization ends up as extinct as the cycles that came before them.

[darthoptimus003]

Han Shot First wrote...

Why am I just discovering this 'theory' after 4 months?

I may be a little late to the party, but let me just say that is theory will end up as dead as Indoctrination Theory. Like IT, this is just wishful thinking by those who really hate the RGB choices and want another option. Unfortunately for those who are hoping for another option, you are going to be stuck with RGB.

By the time ME3 is fully wrapped up and no more DLC is being released, the only endings where the Reaper invasion was stopped will be the existing Destroy, Control, and Synthesis choices. Refuse will still be an epic fail ending where every existing space faring civilization ends up as extinct as the cycles that came before them.

do you really have to troll every thread that hopes for a better ending then the BS that we got
go away
back on topic
if this theory turns out to be true they might just get back some of the lost fans
hope it turns out for the best

[darthoptimus003]

AlanC9 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

The idea of this theroy would be to pull those fans back in who deserted them. And any fans who truly cared about Shepard and their story and weren't just trolling on BioWare coz they made a crap ending, would buy the dlc. Heck, people who like the endings now would probably still buy it..

A successful refuse would be a bigger middle finger to me than the current one, and I don't even like the existing endings all that much.  It would make the entire game an incoherent mess; magically winning in the endgame because we really, really want to is even more magic than space magic. Hell, I'd prefer them to canonize IT.

Don't pretend there wouldn't be costs if Bio did this. Maybe they'd be worth paying, maybe not.

Edit: didn't particularly want to troll the thread, but I didn't figure this space is as much of an echo chamber as the main IT thread is.

well if three things could happen with the rest of the dlc line up  
high tms destroy w/o genocide
reunion with li/squad goes with ^^
and a sucessful refusal would mean that we didnt have to sacrifce our values and told the starbrat to go frack himself all this would mean high tms score though
then maybe just maybe bw could salvage there rep and get back customers/fans
this is why i hope that this theory turns out true
idk some might concider this to be a big middle finger but some might see it as a sign that bw does really care for the fans and decided to fix the ending
god i hope this turns out true

[SpamBot2000]

Han Shot First wrote...

Why am I just discovering this 'theory' after 4 months?

I may be a little late to the party, but let me just say that is theory will end up as dead as Indoctrination Theory. Like IT, this is just wishful thinking by those who really hate the RGB choices and want another option. Unfortunately for those who are hoping for another option, you are going to be stuck with RGB.

By the time ME3 is fully wrapped up and no more DLC is being released, the only endings where the Reaper invasion was stopped will be the existing Destroy, Control, and Synthesis choices. Refuse will still be an epic fail ending where every existing space faring civilization ends up as extinct as the cycles that came before them.

You got a tourist mind
Deaf, numb and blind to all the pain you bring
This is more than just sin
"Am I really such a nightmare? If I had a home I'd go there."

Anytime you like
This court says, "Take a hike"
The slate will not be wiped
Just go home, Bio Mike
Go home, Bio Mike....

[Han Shot First]

darthoptimus003 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Why am I just discovering this 'theory' after 4 months?

I may be a little late to the party, but let me just say that is theory will end up as dead as Indoctrination Theory. Like IT, this is just wishful thinking by those who really hate the RGB choices and want another option. Unfortunately for those who are hoping for another option, you are going to be stuck with RGB.

By the time ME3 is fully wrapped up and no more DLC is being released, the only endings where the Reaper invasion was stopped will be the existing Destroy, Control, and Synthesis choices. Refuse will still be an epic fail ending where every existing space faring civilization ends up as extinct as the cycles that came before them.

do you really have to troll every thread that hopes for a better ending then the BS that we got

Having a difference of opinion isn't trolling.

What would be the point of any internet forum if every reply in a thread was "ditto?"

Modifié par Han Shot First, 23 novembre 2012 - 09:13 .

[Jadebaby]

eaglefan129 wrote...

if "puzzle theory" is true then why won't omega and levithan be on wii u?

really? Like at all?

AlanC9 wrote...

A successful refuse would be a bigger middle finger to me than the current one, and I don't even like the existing endings all that much. It would make the entire game an incoherent mess; magically winning in the endgame because we really, really want to is even more magic than space magic. Hell, I'd prefer them to canonize IT.

Don't pretend there wouldn't be costs if Bio did this. Maybe they'd be worth paying, maybe not.

Edit: didn't particularly want to troll the thread, but I didn't figure this space is as much of an echo chamber as the main IT thread is.

It depends on how they write it.. If it's anything like the RGB choices, then yea.. It'll probably end up sucking.... But through mutliple dlc's and the MP operations.. They could make it a possibility, and have that possibility be meaningful...

Every bit of dlc we get is insight, understanding and extra war assets. So tell me what the point if of having 10,000 war assets if the "best" ending only requires 3100?

Also, I'd like IT to be canonized too, so we can agree on that at least.. Tell me, what if they did a combination of the two? And refusing the Child was breaking the Indoctrination?

Han Shot First wrote...

Why am I just discovering this 'theory' after 4 months?

I wish you didn't..

I may be a little late to the party, but let me just say that is theory will end up as dead as Indoctrination Theory. Like IT, this is just wishful thinking by those who really hate the RGB choices and want another option. Unfortunately for those who are hoping for another option, you are going to be stuck with RGB.

How can we be stuck with RGB if we aren't even stuck with RGB now?

By the time ME3 is fully wrapped up and no more DLC is being released, the only endings where the Reaper invasion was stopped will be the existing Destroy, Control, and Synthesis choices. Refuse will still be an epic fail ending where every existing space faring civilization ends up as extinct as the cycles that came before them.

Sweet, that's all well and good and I'll stick this in the OP on one condition...

You can tell me the winning lottery tickets for the next two years oh wise and wonderful crystal ball....

Learn from Alanc9, it is possible to disagree without being a total dick about it.. It's funny that Alanc9 thought he was trolling when it appeared to me he was just voicing an opinion in a respectful manner. Then you post this crap below him, and don't think you're trolling... Oh the irony..

But to be blunt, while I suppose this is still your opinion and you type it this way because you are that way, what proof do you have to back up your stance? (Besides forum posts by Chris Priestly)

And IT is hardly dead, it's on the top page everytime I log on....

[Pascal219]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Yes Pascal, the Omega delay was not BioWare's fault.. Well, it was. But they had no power. It was microsoft who delayed it because "apparently" BioWare didn't get it finished in time for microsoft. Then the release of Halo4, Cod2 and AC3. Microsoft wanted to push it back a month.

Which is good that BioWare didn't get it out in a way, because it tells me they weren't interested in rushing the product. It may well be worth the $15 but I still aint buying it.

Ah, that makes sense. With such a release heavy month asking costumers to spend 15 bucks on a rushed product would be too much. So, I agree, I'm really glad they didn't rush it.

I for one, am buying it. But in a way I'm okay with the endings as they are, though I still hope there is more too it than a litteral interpretation. Which is why I visited this thread in the first place!

If I may ask, how hopeful are you at this point of there being more to the ending? There being a more long term plan by Bioware? 

Also in the twitter thread it was mentioned by Jos that all writers are on board for the next dlc? Any thoughts on that?

And I finally got xbox live gold, multiplayer is my new addiction! 

[Jadebaby]

Pascal219 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Yes Pascal, the Omega delay was not BioWare's fault.. Well, it was. But they had no power. It was microsoft who delayed it because "apparently" BioWare didn't get it finished in time for microsoft. Then the release of Halo4, Cod2 and AC3. Microsoft wanted to push it back a month.

Which is good that BioWare didn't get it out in a way, because it tells me they weren't interested in rushing the product. It may well be worth the $15 but I still aint buying it.

Ah, that makes sense. With such a release heavy month asking costumers to spend 15 bucks on a rushed product would be too much. So, I agree, I'm really glad they didn't rush it.

I for one, am buying it. But in a way I'm okay with the endings as they are, though I still hope there is more too it than a litteral interpretation. Which is why I visited this thread in the first place!

If I may ask, how hopeful are you at this point of there being more to the ending? There being a more long term plan by Bioware? 

Also in the twitter thread it was mentioned by Jos that all writers are on board for the next dlc? Any thoughts on that?

And I finally got xbox live gold, multiplayer is my new addiction! 

Yes, the MP is very addictive.. Just watch out for those microtransactions! lol

It's a good question you asked. I don't know, I just can't help feeling that the RGBR endings are just a bit of a letdown... Like, there's no climax... For a big sci-fi action RPG game like Mass Effect, to end it with all the philosophical mumbo-jumbo and no real climax.. It's just a bit of a letdown. So everytime I think the literal interpretation is correct, there's always something that stops me thinking that way, whether it be from outside evidence (eg: Jessie Houston's interview on the OP), or BSN evidence (stuff found by the IT crowd) or even in-game evidence like Eve's crystal and Garrus' line saying "sometimes blind faith/hope is all we have left."

The pieces are all there, but there's so many of them, taking many different shapes and sizes that it's hard to put them all together, to complete the puzzle...

However, I think if it's true that ALL the writers are on board for the next dlc.. It's a big sign... That would mean there will be a lot of squadmate dialog going on... However I'm hoping it's not the "reveal" dlc, coz I don't want it to be the last one.

[Restrider]

I support IT through refusal of the brat (that speech was epic) and victory over the Reapers through PT.
Just wanted you to know.

[Jadebaby]

[BansheeOwnage]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

It's a good question you asked. I don't know, I just can't help feeling that the RGBR endings are just a bit of a letdown... Like, there's no climax... For a big sci-fi action RPG game like Mass Effect, to end it with all the philosophical mumbo-jumbo and no real climax.. It's just a bit of a letdown.

This is exactly how I feel. And I've read (even though I really don't need to) why it's bad because there is no climax. It's such a rookie writing mistake that it makes it so implausible that they did it by accident.

[Jadebaby]

 Well well well puzzle theorians... I have pretty big news. And I'm gonna drop it when I finish my observation shift in ten hours!

[Andrew Waples]

[quote]Jade8aby88 wrote...

[quote]eaglefan129 wrote...

if "puzzle theory" is true then why won't omega and levithan be on wii u? [/quote]

really? Like at all?

well maybe not a launch but i mean (chances are people getting wii u are not getting it for me3) if "puzzle theory" is true dlc would have to be avaible on all platforms..i would think.

[Han Shot First]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Why am I just discovering this 'theory' after 4 months?

I may be a little late to the party, but let me just say that is theory will end up as dead as Indoctrination Theory. Like IT, this is just wishful thinking by those who really hate the RGB choices and want another option. Unfortunately for those who are hoping for another option, you are going to be stuck with RGB.

By the time ME3 is fully wrapped up and no more DLC is being released, the only endings where the Reaper invasion was stopped will be the existing Destroy, Control, and Synthesis choices. Refuse will still be an epic fail ending where every existing space faring civilization ends up as extinct as the cycles that came before them.

You got a tourist mind
Deaf, numb and blind to all the pain you bring
This is more than just sin
"Am I really such a nightmare? If I had a home I'd go there."

Anytime you like
This court says, "Take a hike"
The slate will not be wiped
Just go home, Bio Mike
Go home, Bio Mike....

That is rather amusing considering I was once banned for making offensive comments about EA and Bioware, regarding the original endings to ME3.

I just think you Puzzle Theorists are setting yourselves up for crushing disappointment. The endings are what they are.

[Jadebaby]

It can't get anymore disappointing than accepting the endings as they are lol

[shit's fucked cunts]

Without hope, we might as well be machines, programmed to do what we're told.

Probably not that relevant, but it's an alright sentiment.

What's this big news you were talking about?

Modifié par GT Zazzerka, 24 novembre 2012 - 03:07 .

[Anti-killer]

Man, when I picked Refuse, and the Starbrat said "So be it!" I thought **** was gonna go down, showing us a war asset battle....Ouch.

I like this theory, and honestly, I hope it's true.

[Jadebaby]

Okay, so...

There is something big in the works...

Jos Hendriks wrote...

It's all hands on deck for this one. Pretty much every ME3 DLC writer here in Edmonton is involved. (which would include both Patrick Weekes AND John Dombrow)

Now, I learnt a couple of months ago (from a very friendly dev) that an actual ME writer is the one writing up the Hackett speeches after operations. Her name is Brianne O'Grady. This comes after asking Priestly about it and him replying "it's someone from the live marketing team." An obvious lie.

So,

Jos Hendriks wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Jos Hendriks wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Jos, thank you for your answer! It sound very promising! Can't wait to see the results!

You're welcome! I cannot answer most questions, but I'm glad I can at least answer the occasional one.

Can you answer if Brianne O'Grady (I think her name is) is working on it? Technically she's a dlc writer no?

Yep, she's involved.

So, me thinks whatever is coming after Omega, it's going to be *big*, and probably going to lean more towards confirming one of these theories.

Excited about ME again! XD

Read about it for yourselves here...
http://social.biowar...ex/12486978/112

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 24 novembre 2012 - 03:25 .

[hukbum]

Commander Casanova wrote...

Makes me want to buy Omega now.

Didn't think I'd ever say that.

Same here

[Jadebaby]

FTR, this isn't about Omega, it's about the DLC *after* Omega...