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AresKeith wrote...

@Banshee I'm positive people would still choice Control and Synthesis

Yeah but destroy is the best ending regardless though that would make it better and if shep gets more then the breath scene it is amazing

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

FTR, this isn't about Omega, it's about the DLC *after* Omega...


I know, but it has me excited for Mass Effect again.

I wasn't excited for Mass Effect yesterday, and by extension, Omega.

Now I'm excited. Now I want Omega.

Savvy? :P


Do not trust to hope. It has forsaken these lands.


Word. Thank you for setting me straight. I was in a mood earlier, I guess.

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I noticed something about the multiplayer challenges for N7 weekend challenges under squad elite.
There appears to be no "times completed" notification under them like every single other challenge and challenge catergory. Considering this interesting tibit, it's possible that something may happen or will be announced three N7 challenges from now (I think it's been 6 since retaliation's release, don't flame me if I'm wrong).

If so, "Puzzle Theory" may be confirmed, and soon, for the multiplayer is almost caught up to the single player.

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OperatingWookie wrote...

I noticed something about the multiplayer challenges for N7 weekend challenges under squad elite.
There appears to be no "times completed" notification under them like every single other challenge and challenge catergory. Considering this interesting tibit, it's possible that something may happen or will be announced three N7 challenges from now (I think it's been 6 since retaliation's release, don't flame me if I'm wrong).

If so, "Puzzle Theory" may be confirmed, and soon, for the multiplayer is almost caught up to the single player.


i'm sorry but I'm seeing your logic..was this "times completed" there before? i think your just grasping at straws.

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eaglefan129 wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

I noticed something about the multiplayer challenges for N7 weekend challenges under squad elite.
There appears to be no "times completed" notification under them like every single other challenge and challenge catergory. Considering this interesting tibit, it's possible that something may happen or will be announced three N7 challenges from now (I think it's been 6 since retaliation's release, don't flame me if I'm wrong).

If so, "Puzzle Theory" may be confirmed, and soon, for the multiplayer is almost caught up to the single player.


i'm sorry but I'm seeing your logic..was this "times completed" there before? i think your just grasping at straws.


No, but it's there for every other challenge. It's not there for the "N7 Weekend challenges completed" catergory.

I'm saying that there may be something. And soon.

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I hope so, but I think there isn't any "times completed" because then people might try to get more than one Commendation Pack.

garrusfan1 wrote...

That is A decent come back also how old are the two of you


You first. :P

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

I hope so, but I think there isn't any "times completed" because then people might try to get more than one Commendation Pack.



What else should I do?

I mean seriously. Posted Image There's at least something to hope for.

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IsaacShep wrote...

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What did Gamble say in podcast?

Link?

he says that there are some things they wanted to say about the franchise in DLC for ME3


Now THAT'S interesting!

And that statement, in and of itself, proves it wont just be fanservice for ME2 characters.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

What did Gamble say in podcast?

Link?

he says that there are some things they wanted to say about the franchise in DLC for ME3


Now THAT'S interesting!

And that statement, in and of itself, proves it wont just be fanservice for ME2 characters.


Podcast?

Where?

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OperatingWookie wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

What did Gamble say in podcast?

Link?

he says that there are some things they wanted to say about the franchise in DLC for ME3


Now THAT'S interesting!

And that statement, in and of itself, proves it wont just be fanservice for ME2 characters.


Podcast?

Where?


Yea, I know, I tried clicking the link on the previous page, but couldn't find the podcast....

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

What did Gamble say in podcast?

Link?

he says that there are some things they wanted to say about the franchise in DLC for ME3


Now THAT'S interesting!

And that statement, in and of itself, proves it wont just be fanservice for ME2 characters.


Podcast?

Where?


Yea, I know, I tried clicking the link on the previous page, but couldn't find the podcast....

Guess, I have to look around then.

Is it about the thing he said about enjoying testing a new DLC?

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Click on the link IsaacShep posted on the previous page and go from there. I don't know, I couldn't find it.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Click on the link IsaacShep posted on the previous page and go from there. I don't know, I couldn't find it.

Better than nothing, I'll look at it when I have time.

Thanks.

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CONVENTIONAL VICTORY

This theory doesn't support conventional victory, that phrase gets thrown around far too much, and in it's proper context is impossible. That being said, this theory does support winning on our own terms, through unconventional means. After refusing the Catalyst.

These unconventional means will be attained through further dlc's. We have already received one piece in the Leviathans.


Don't know if this is already touched on here (and I do like this idea, for closure if nothing else)... but when I, at least, say "Conventional Victory" I mean "Anything that isn't handed to you on a silver platter by the leader of the enemy you've been fighting this entire time."

But that might be just me. Wish I hit this thread a little sooner. It's interesting. And as the Angry One noted, somewhat irritating that they'd string it out like this before giving us a proper ending.

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I really wish something like this could be true. Unfortunetly, I suspect that everything our multiplayer characters, Shepards, and the community has done will amount to nothing.

Modifié par Bathaius, 25 novembre 2012 - 07:17 .


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malakim2099 wrote...

CONVENTIONAL VICTORY

This theory doesn't support conventional victory, that phrase gets thrown around far too much, and in it's proper context is impossible. That being said, this theory does support winning on our own terms, through unconventional means. After refusing the Catalyst.

These unconventional means will be attained through further dlc's. We have already received one piece in the Leviathans.


Don't know if this is already touched on here (and I do like this idea, for closure if nothing else)... but when I, at least, say "Conventional Victory" I mean "Anything that isn't handed to you on a silver platter by the leader of the enemy you've been fighting this entire time."

But that might be just me. Wish I hit this thread a little sooner. It's interesting. And as the Angry One noted, somewhat irritating that they'd string it out like this before giving us a proper ending.


Conventional Victory, by it's defintion is two opposing forces battling it out with no outside information, sources or reinforcements. It's the good old saying "going toe to toe" but on a larger scale. When Hackett said "there's no way we can beat them conventionally" in the beginning of ME3, he was right. They are simply not an enemy the galaxy can role over. But this doesn't mean that we can't find outside help to beat them... Leviathans.. Taking back Omega, finding deeper intel and insight into Cerberus' operations etc... To eventually be able to defeat the Reapers on our own terms.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

I hope so, but I think there isn't any "times completed" because then people might try to get more than one Commendation Pack.

garrusfan1 wrote...

That is A decent come back also how old are the two of you


You first. :P


Judging by the 88 in her screen name... she's obviously 88. That would make AresKeith 85-86.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

What did Gamble say in podcast?

Link?

majornelson.com/cast/2012/11/16/show-458-xbox-live-turns-10/ at around 47 minute mark, he says that there are some things they wanted to say about the franchise and the characters in DLC for ME3 and that Omega speaks to some of these things but the next DLC does too in a different way and that they've been listening to feedback what fans wanna see in future DLC.

Combining that with the info from Jos that it's 'all hands on deck' effort and all writers are working on it makes me thing they're gonna fanservice with the characters (esp ME2 ones)


but that would mean they would have to change every other character mordin would have to be changed,miranda's influence would have to be changed, etc.. i highly doubt any future dlc will involve squadmates cause they can die..

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I hope so, but I think there isn't any "times completed" because then people might try to get more than one Commendation Pack.

garrusfan1 wrote...

That is A decent come back also how old are the two of you


You first. :P


Judging by the 88 in her screen name... she's obviously 88. That would make AresKeith 85-86.


ACtually, if you looked at my sign-up date. You'd know I'm actually 89.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...


ACtually, if you looked at my sign-up date. You'd know I'm actually 89.


The dame was right. After all my years of investigating the crooked deals of this dirty city, I had fallen for a rookie mistake. I ought to have let Ginger handle the paperwork back at the office, but the kid deserved her day off after what happened to that fiance of hers. This one was squarely on me. 

I was just telling myself to be more careful from now on and pay attention to details when something stirred in the greasy shadows of the alley and I felt something heavy descend on the back of my head like the final curtain after the fat lady had warbled her piece. As the darkness expanded to extinguish the guttering flame of my whiskey-fogged consciousness, the last thought awake was something about 'a sap'. Whether I was thinking of the object that collided with my skull or just myself, I could not tell.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 25 novembre 2012 - 02:40 .


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SpamBot2000 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...


ACtually, if you looked at my sign-up date. You'd know I'm actually 89.


The dame was right. After all my years of investigating the crooked deals of this dirty city, I had fallen for a rookie mistake. I ought to have let Ginger handle the paperwork back at the office, but the kid deserved her day off after what happened to that fiance of hers. This one was squarely on me. 

I was just telling myself to be more careful from now on and pay attention to details when something stirred in the greasy shadows of the alley and I felt something heavy descend on the back of my head like the final curtain after the fat lady had warbled her piece. As the darkness expanded to extinguish the guttering flame of my whiskey-fogged consciousness, the last thought awake was something about 'a sap'. Whether I was thinking of the object that collided with my skull or just myself, I could not tell.


Why does this seem so familiar?

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

malakim2099 wrote...

CONVENTIONAL VICTORY

This theory doesn't support conventional victory, that phrase gets thrown around far too much, and in it's proper context is impossible. That being said, this theory does support winning on our own terms, through unconventional means. After refusing the Catalyst.

These unconventional means will be attained through further dlc's. We have already received one piece in the Leviathans.


Don't know if this is already touched on here (and I do like this idea, for closure if nothing else)... but when I, at least, say "Conventional Victory" I mean "Anything that isn't handed to you on a silver platter by the leader of the enemy you've been fighting this entire time."

But that might be just me. Wish I hit this thread a little sooner. It's interesting. And as the Angry One noted, somewhat irritating that they'd string it out like this before giving us a proper ending.


Conventional Victory, by it's defintion is two opposing forces battling it out with no outside information, sources or reinforcements. It's the good old saying "going toe to toe" but on a larger scale. When Hackett said "there's no way we can beat them conventionally" in the beginning of ME3, he was right. They are simply not an enemy the galaxy can role over. But this doesn't mean that we can't find outside help to beat them... Leviathans.. Taking back Omega, finding deeper intel and insight into Cerberus' operations etc... To eventually be able to defeat the Reapers on our own terms.


Exactly, and in that context (and what the story has given us) I agree that a "conventional" victory isn't possible against the Reapers. However, considering the stuff taken from Cerberus (control frequencies for the Reaper minions), as well as EDI's development with Reaper Countermeasures (which do hack the Collectors pretty darn well) and the aforementioned Leviathans and the like... a Non-Catalyst victory seems quite possible.

EDIT: And if that IS correct... paying $25 for an ending that should have been in the freaking game in the first place? (Cost of Leviathan+Omega DLC, fyi)... that's absolutely ####ing ridiculous.

Modifié par malakim2099, 25 novembre 2012 - 03:17 .


#1448
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Nup, I'd gladly pay for it.

It would be the best amount of money I would have ever spent on a game, ever.

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lol yeah, I will gladly dish it out, and if you don't want to, just watch it on youtube i guess.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Nup, I'd gladly pay for it.

It would be the best amount of money I would have ever spent on a game, ever.


I hate to say it, but... this.

I'd gladly pay it if it gave me a triumphant ending like ME1 and like what was possible in ME2. It sucks, I shouldn't have to pay for a proper ending to ME3, but at the same time, it means maybe I could have Mass Effect back again.

The fact that Star Brat would still be involved in the endings sickens me, but I think I could learn to overlook it if only the endings felt more like Mass Effect.