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#1626
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bahamutomega wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Not sure what you mean... I'm not sure there was a prophecy, just information being passed down from eye-witness accounts etc..


uh...  i think Operation Prophecy is about the end of the world as "predicted" by the end of the Mayan calendar on December 21st, 2012.  since i'm here typing this, i think we can scrub that.  i was amused by the name of the operation though.

 
 

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Jade8aby88 wrote...
Well Mac Walters already admitted to taking risks with the endings...

So tell me, why would leaving the ending open-ended to collect fan feedback and incorporate tthat into another ending be a bad thing?

Even if we do have to pay for it, it's paying for something we actually want. And if this is their plan, it's an increadibly generous thing to do for your fans, so the least we can do is pay for it, and that way, anyway who doesn't want it, simply need not download it.

Great idea. This would work for IT or no IT. Maybe Bioware knew they could never do a finale to suit enough people in time (screw EA's deadlines) so they decided they would use direct feedback and release it later. They must have known there would be discontent, but they didn't think it would be as bad as it was.

It's a pretty good idea. Also, merry Christmas Eve Jade. :)

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Merry Christmas to u too :)

Also, the only way they could ever get feedback to use in the ending was to leave it open ended. Because people have to understand the position they are in first, so they know what to ask for later..

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Just thought I'd leave this poll here. A total of 88% want the new MegaDLC to clarify the endings. If Bioware is listening, it's hard to argue with feedback like that. Hope they listen! Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Just thought I'd leave this poll here. A total of 88% want the new MegaDLC to clarify the endings. If Bioware is listening, it's hard to argue with feedback like that. Hope they listen! Posted Image

 
Damn right we do. But they won't listen :'(

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I'm sure they've been listening MassEffecter132. And watching. And I'm also sure they've got more than a few surprises in story for us yet before ME3's story ends!

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so mac walters admits to taking risks with the ending? my god they destroyed the franchise. no-where on the net will you find a worse ending of such a great franchise.

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dorktainian wrote...
so mac walters admits to taking risks with the ending? my god they destroyed the franchise. no-where on the net will you find a worse ending of such a great franchise.


Assassin's Creed, the Matrix series, Nolan's Batman series, Lost, the X-Files, Stephen King's Dark Tower books, Dean Koontz's Frankenstein series and many more all beg to differ.  High horse - get off it.

Modifié par ElSuperGecko, 24 décembre 2012 - 11:36 .


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ElSuperGecko wrote...

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so mac walters admits to taking risks with the ending? my god they destroyed the franchise. no-where on the net will you find a worse ending of such a great franchise.


Assassin's Creed, the Matrix series, Nolan's Batman series, Lost, the X-Files, Stephen King's Dark Tower books, Dean Koontz's Frankenstein series and many more all beg to differ.  High horse - get off it.

and......none of those you've mentioned are anywhere near as bad...your point is?:whistle:

Modifié par dorktainian, 24 décembre 2012 - 11:41 .


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ElSuperGecko wrote...

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so mac walters admits to taking risks with the ending? my god they destroyed the franchise. no-where on the net will you find a worse ending of such a great franchise.


Assassin's Creed, the Matrix series, Nolan's Batman series, Lost, the X-Files, Stephen King's Dark Tower books, Dean Koontz's Frankenstein series and many more all beg to differ.  High horse - get off it.


Why the hostility?

I didn't think Nolan's batman ended that poorly.

Plus, those things lack one thing in common with Mass Effect. They were never as good to begin with, in my opnion.

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dorktainian wrote...

ElSuperGecko wrote...

dorktainian wrote...
so mac walters admits to taking risks with the ending? my god they destroyed the franchise. no-where on the net will you find a worse ending of such a great franchise.


Assassin's Creed, the Matrix series, Nolan's Batman series, Lost, the X-Files, Stephen King's Dark Tower books, Dean Koontz's Frankenstein series and many more all beg to differ.  High horse - get off it.

and......none of those you've mentioned are anywhere near as bad...your point is?:whistle:


The point is perception - you have yours, other people have theirs.  You missed out the magic words - "in my opinion" - so stop purporting your opinion as fact when it's clearly not one that's shared by everyone.

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gee i must remember to add imo to everything i type as imo a cant remember to fully punctuate properly if i remember imo because i just cannot be arsed imo.

holy ****esticks batman. if it wernt my perception i wouldnt type it. i dont expect anyone to agree with it. jeez anyone that takes themselves that seriously should be locked up with a copy of dragonball evolution on repeat play.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...
Why the hostility?


No hostility, just tired of people who believe their own opinion is shared by everyone/the be all and end all.  For them it is maybe, but fortunately they're only one person.

I didn't think Nolan's batman ended that poorly.


It wasn't a bad ending, but it was definitely the weakest film of the series.  Not Nolan's fault of course, but due to the awful circumstances that followe dthe second film he would have had to re-write his entire plan for the series I'm not sure he had the heart to.

Plus, those things lack one thing in common with Mass Effect. They were never as good to begin with, in my opnion.


In your opinion.  Posted Image

Personally I'd say that quite a few of the series on that list had just as much if not more potential than Mass Effect.  It's not the only series to have ended on a disappointing note, far from it.  And of course, the Mass Effect series hasn't actually ended yet either - I thought that was the entire point of your thread in the first place?

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dorktainian wrote...

gee i must remember to add imo to everything i type as imo a cant remember to fully punctuate properly if i remember imo because i just cannot be arsed imo.

holy ****esticks batman. if it wernt my perception i wouldnt type it. i dont expect anyone to agree with it. jeez anyone that takes themselves that seriously should be locked up with a copy of dragonball evolution on repeat play.


Well, that's settled then.  It's only your opinion.

You're entitled to it.  It's wrong, of course, but you're entitled to it!  Posted Image

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

gee i must remember to add imo to everything i type as imo a cant remember to fully punctuate properly if i remember imo because i just cannot be arsed imo.

holy ****esticks batman. if it wernt my perception i wouldnt type it. i dont expect anyone to agree with it. jeez anyone that takes themselves that seriously should be locked up with a copy of dragonball evolution on repeat play.


Well, that's settled then.  It's only your opinion.

You're entitled to it.  It's wrong, of course, but you're entitled to it!  Posted Image


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ElSuperGecko wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...
Plus, those things lack one thing in common with Mass Effect. They were never as good to begin with, in my opnion.


In your opinion.  Posted Image

Personally I'd say that quite a few of the series on that list had just as much if not more potential than Mass Effect.  It's not the only series to have ended on a disappointing note, far from it.  And of course, the Mass Effect series hasn't actually ended yet either - I thought that was the entire point of your thread in the first place?


First of all, why stick  "in your opinion" like you're trying to brush off my statement as opinion, when I already stated in the exact post you quoted it was "in my opinion"? That makes no sense to me...

Second of all. While this theory does support the fact that the war isn't over and Shepard still needs to rise above the Catalyst's bull. That's not what I was talking about. I was talking about my literal perception of the trilogy. Theories aside.

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ElSuperGecko wrote...
Well, that's settled then. It's only your opinion.

You're entitled to it. It's wrong, of course, but you're entitled to it! Posted Image


You do realise how much of a hypocrite this makes you, yes?

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 24 décembre 2012 - 12:54 .


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Jade8aby88 wrote...
First of all, why stick  "in your opinion" like you're trying to brush off my statement as opinion, when I already stated in the exact post you quoted it was "in my opinion"? That makes no sense to me...


Don't fret.  It was merely a joke, in reference to my earlier points.

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You do realise how much of a hypocrite this makes you, yes?


Not a hypocrite at all.  I'm perfectly aware that my opinion is my own, could quite easily be wrong and is not shared by everyone.  Others, however, clearly need this pointing out to them.

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Not a hypocrite at all.  I'm perfectly aware that my opinion is my own, could quite easily be wrong and is not shared by everyone.  Others, however, clearly need this pointing out to them.


No, because there is no right and wrong. Just because his opinion doesn't support yours doesn't make it wrong in any way shape or form. It simply makes it different. That's not a matter of opinion, it's a fact.

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jeez.  I'm wrong.  you hear that?  yeah i'm wrong.  I'm wrong to assume that actually things said on here are taken at face value, and i'm being talked down to by the evolutionary equivelant of an amoebas pet chimp.

Still hey.  I'm wrong about having the right to an opinion when others seem to suggest otherwise.  

enjoy the festivities.



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Modifié par dorktainian, 24 décembre 2012 - 01:16 .


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Jade8aby88 wrote...
No, because there is no right and wrong. Just because his opinion doesn't support yours doesn't make it wrong in any way shape or form. It simply makes it different. That's not a matter of opinion, it's a fact.


LOL, no - opinions can quite easily be wrong.

And in this case, dorktanian stating that Bioware "killed the franchise" with ME3 is clearly wrong, regardless of opinion, because people still enjoy playing it, are still buying the DLC and are still discussing the story to this day.

Now if there was a clear and evidenced consensus that everyone thinks that ME3 is a shambling trainwreck which ruined the series for everyone that played it, then he may be right.  But there isn't, and he is not.

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...
No, because there is no right and wrong. Just because his opinion doesn't support yours doesn't make it wrong in any way shape or form. It simply makes it different. That's not a matter of opinion, it's a fact.


LOL, no - opinions can quite easily be wrong.

And in this case, dorktanian stating that Bioware "killed the franchise" with ME3 is clearly wrong, regardless of opinion, because people still enjoy playing it, are still buying the DLC and are still discussing the story to this day.

Now if there was a clear and evidenced consensus that everyone thinks that ME3 is a shambling trainwreck which ruined the series for everyone that played it, then he may be right.  But there isn't, and he is not.


No he wasn't, he simply said that it had a worse ending than any of the other franchises you mentioned. Which is entirely debatable.

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dorktainian wrote...
so mac walters admits to taking risks with the ending? my god they destroyed the franchise. no-where on the net will you find a worse ending of such a great franchise.



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Just to be more specific so we can end this silly nonsense, you know, since it's Christmas and all...

dorktainian wrote...
so mac walters admits to taking risks with the ending? my god they destroyed the franchise. no-where on the net will you find a worse ending of such a great franchise.


Now, because "of such a great franchise" is totally subjective, therefore everything that came before that is totally his opinion already.

Secondly, this is what was in debate, you know, since you bolded it and everything. That being said, even when he said "my god they destroyed the franchise" because of what was listed in my first sentence, this now becomes "my god they destroyed the franchise for me."

See what I did there?

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jeez  it's an opinion.  just like smuds.  you dont have to agree with it.  but your opinion is no better than mine...and that is a fact.