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[Conniving_Eagle]

I want MOAR MP stuff. We've been doing pretty good with the events and no one cares about Leviathan.

[DeadpoolBub]

This idea is awesome. The skeptical side of me is saying that it's BS & Bioware won't do this, but the hopeful side believes in this & believes that Bioware* will do this.

*Or EA since a Refusal ending would be the best way to get dat money maker, Mass Effect 4.

[Tipsyfresh]

Yea when I saw we "succeeded" at the operation, took a deep breathe and said a Lil prayer for jade8 because she is the oracle.

[KENNY4753]

I really like the Indoctrination theory but after reading this thread I'm sort of hoping this turns out to be true

Modifié par KENNY4753, 18 août 2012 - 12:26 .

[Jadebaby]

Tipsyfresh wrote...

Yea when I saw we "succeeded" at the operation, took a deep breathe and said a Lil prayer for jade8 because she is the oracle.

lol.

It was a miracle we won though.

I made a Hackett speech trying to rally everyone to play, looks like it worked!

jokes.

[Jadebaby]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

I want MOAR MP stuff. We've been doing pretty good with the events and no one cares about Leviathan.

What have you done with my friend?

[KENNY4753]

is there a group for this theory?

[3DandBeyond]

I did finally read this-my fault for not doing so earlier and I think it's great. The only question I have is about MP. Is this tying it to MP or just using MP "story" as a partial basis.

The only problem with either as I see it is they might "require" something outside of single player to get to the end. I have no problem with that myself but if so (and I could be misunderstanding something) it would leave off the option for many people.

Using the MP storyline as a basis alone would mean some people (a lot of people) that don't come here and read the MP stories will miss out on a lot. I actually only did so after reading this OP. I play MP, but never was interested in the MP forum or blog.

The other thought is, if it's in some way a requirement that you play MP even just a bit (I don't think you mean that), then some could never get the ending. And in the future when MP is defunct, you'd close off a way to get it.  I did re-read and I don't see any MP to SP tie in, just the story I think is what you are getting at.   It does make a lot of sense, but as with my own "theory" I have more hope than expectations.  I consider all the hopeful codex entries and the war assets screen and the main menu Galactic Readiness screen, that all show there is a way to win, and at the end there isn't.  So far. 

Like you, I tried to stop and look at all of this as clues to possibilities, but the possibilities aren't open as yet.  More assets and then content that triggers them could be planned.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 18 août 2012 - 04:42 .

[Jadebaby]

3DandBeyond wrote...

I did finally read this-my fault for not doing so earlier and I think it's great. The only question I have is about MP. Is this tying it to MP or just using MP "story" as a partial basis.

The only problem with either as I see it is they might "require" something outside of single player to get to the end. I have no problem with that myself but if so (and I could be misunderstanding something) it would leave off the option for many people.

Using the MP storyline as a basis alone would mean some people (a lot of people) that don't come here and read the MP stories will miss out on a lot. I actually only did so after reading this OP. I play MP, but never was interested in the MP forum or blog.

The other thought is, if it's in some way a requirement that you play MP even just a bit (I don't think you mean that), then some could never get the ending. And in the future when MP is defunct, you'd close off a way to get it.  I did re-read and I don't see any MP to SP tie in, just the story I think is what you are getting at.   It does make a lot of sense, but as with my own "theory" I have more hope than expectations.  I consider all the hopeful codex entries and the war assets screen and the main menu Galactic Readiness screen, that all show there is a way to win, and at the end there isn't.  So far. 

Like you, I tried to stop and look at all of this as clues to possibilities, but the possibilities aren't open as yet.  More assets and then content that triggers them could be planned.

Yes, I only meant the MP storyline, no participation would be required.
The issue you raised about a lot of people not seeing the story. It is no secret (in-game and in the media) that the MP has been having these operations, so I think if anyone who doesn't frequent BSN should still know they are happening, and if they'd like to know more about it, the options are there. Plus, the same could be said about Kai Leng's and Kahlee Sanders' appearances in ME3, to an extent.

KENNY4753 wrote...

is there a group for this theory?

There is now =)

http://social.bioware.com/group/7780/

[D24O]

I'll join. Would be cool to get new end stuff in the DLC, even small context changing things like modifications to the Catalyst convo.

[Tealjaker94]

Not sure I actually believe it'll happen, but it would certainly be cool to see.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Jade made a group. Yay group!

[CDRSkyShepard]

They way the entirety of ME3 is structured, I can't believe that a conventional victory is possible. Not unless they put stuff in like actually having all the ships fitted with Thanix cannons, and with that large mass accelerator weapon from ME2 that took out the Derelict Reaper. Without some extensive rewrite to the game, I wouldn't be able to buy conventional victory at the end. (Particularly since the fleets at Earth are basically fish in a barrel for the Reapers, they were never meant to be able to overpower the Reaper presence in that system, just buy the Crucible some time.) I certainly wouldn't be able to buy it any more than I buy Control or Synthesis.

Also, I don't believe in the Refusal ending anyway. Javik said, "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer." I think the Refusal ending as it stands is very much in line with this. You are forced to cross a line in order to end the war...this is the way it is in real life. I personally don't believe in putting RL depressiveness into games, but I see what they're trying to do with it.

Personally, I go with Destroy as the ultimate middle finger to the Catalyst and his crappy logic. He can die along with the Reapers. I also am of the belief that we can rebuild EDI and the geth, given time. It may not be the ideal solution, but they were all combatants ready to give their lives to stop the Reapers. I don't think a conventional victory should be possible without very heavy casualties, and that would be even more devastating than losing EDI and the geth. Just my 0.02 there.

There's a lot of good thought that has been put in here, though. I hope you can gain support for it!

[hanshotfirs]

intereresting theory. Only time will tell though, but a good (and refreashingly new) way of looking at it all.

If it is true... what a Meta gaming experience! And I mean that genuinely.

[Jadebaby]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

They way the entirety of ME3 is structured, I can't believe that a conventional victory is possible. Not unless they put stuff in like actually having all the ships fitted with Thanix cannons, and with that large mass accelerator weapon from ME2 that took out the Derelict Reaper. Without some extensive rewrite to the game, I wouldn't be able to buy conventional victory at the end. (Particularly since the fleets at Earth are basically fish in a barrel for the Reapers, they were never meant to be able to overpower the Reaper presence in that system, just buy the Crucible some time.) I certainly wouldn't be able to buy it any more than I buy Control or Synthesis.

Also, I don't believe in the Refusal ending anyway. Javik said, "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer." I think the Refusal ending as it stands is very much in line with this. You are forced to cross a line in order to end the war...this is the way it is in real life. I personally don't believe in putting RL depressiveness into games, but I see what they're trying to do with it.

Personally, I go with Destroy as the ultimate middle finger to the Catalyst and his crappy logic. He can die along with the Reapers. I also am of the belief that we can rebuild EDI and the geth, given time. It may not be the ideal solution, but they were all combatants ready to give their lives to stop the Reapers. I don't think a conventional victory should be possible without very heavy casualties, and that would be even more devastating than losing EDI and the geth. Just my 0.02 there.

There's a lot of good thought that has been put in here, though. I hope you can gain support for it!

States in OP that the theory doesn't support conventional victory...

Goes on to talk about conventional victory....

[Conniving_Eagle]

I still support conventional victory. It was supposed to happen.

And yes, more MP stuff, because MP is the best part about Mass Effect 3, which is very sad.

[Conniving_Eagle]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

I still support conventional victory. It was supposed to happen.

And yes, more MP stuff, because MP is the best part about Mass Effect 3, which is very sad.

As against MP as I was pre-ME3's release, I have to agree. I get more enjoyment out of the MP now than I do the SP (save a few scenes). I NEVER thought I'd say that.

Ditto. Shotgun Julia was right. It's sad when the best part of the conclusion to an epic trilogy is the multiplayer.

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 19 août 2012 - 05:00 .

[AresKeith]

I still want new game modes

[TsaiMeLemoni]

AresKeith wrote...

I still want new game modes

Me too. MP is fun but it's getting really stale.

[D24O]

Yeah. New modes, or a new faction would be nice to mix it up a bit.

[Conniving_Eagle]

The MP is poorly designed, yet fun. But like TsaiMeLemoni said, it's very easy to get burned out on.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

I want MOAR MP stuff. We've been doing pretty good with the events and no one cares about Leviathan.

What have you done with my friend?

Did the original Conniving Eagle hate Multiplayer? Oops...

[AresKeith]

and it is possible for them to DLC a new mode but it will take a really long time, but new enemies should be easy, like the Collectors or Indoctrinated Mercs