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Jade8aby88 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

How do you put the banners in your sig?


It would be a shame if they wasted this/it's coincidental. This is actually pretty well thought out.


Right click whichever banner you want to use and click copy.

Then go to Profile -> Forum Settings -> signature and right click the box and select paste.

Or that's how I do it. It's pretty easy :)

@BBN, pardon? lol


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It happened again. :/

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I'm... I'm not following...

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

=D


How did you know?


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Garrus: Oh dat's naaasty.

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Garrus: Damn kids..

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 07 janvier 2013 - 09:04 .


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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Garrus: Damn kids..


I saw what you said before that edit, Jade.

That hurt. :(

I'm not a kid, by the way.

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN

Modifié par BringBackNihlus, 07 janvier 2013 - 09:20 .


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My first signature! =)

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Thanks for the support guys! :)

The thread needs it lol.

I really hope this could be a possiblity. Oh and for the record. And I will state this right now.

If BioWare do incorporate something like this, let it be known right now that they would NOT be taking this idea. But that this idea was simply predicting what they would decide to do. Just to get that clear.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Thanks for the support guys! :)

The thread needs it lol.

I really hope this could be a possiblity. Oh and for the record. And I will state this right now.

If BioWare do incorporate something like this, let it be known right now that they would NOT be taking this idea. But that this idea was simply predicting what they would decide to do. Just to get that clear.


But that can be an issue, since I think one of the reasons Bioware didn't used IT was because they were afraid that they would suffer blacklash for using an fan ending idea. Same thing could end up happening to the puzzle theory.

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Yea, but this isn't a fan idea. This is just predicting what they could possibly be doing, which is why I'm stating right now that if they did do something like this, that the PT cannot take *any* crediblity for it as it was just predicting their actions, and not creating actions of it's own as ideas for BioWare to use.

They planted the seeds for refuse. This is just predicting on that. While the theory itself is a fan creation. It's first and foremost a prediction.

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You guys should seriously think about modding the game to have Refuse trigger low EMS Destroy or something, 'cause I don't think a successful refuse will happen.

Modifié par Obadiah, 07 janvier 2013 - 01:51 .


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lol I'll speak to Mr. Fob about that.

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Jaison1986 wrote...
But that can be an issue, since I think one of the reasons Bioware didn't used IT was because they were afraid that they would suffer blacklash for using an fan ending idea. Same thing could end up happening to the puzzle theory.


A common misconception about theories like PT and IT. The core of these theories lies within the game itself and does not rely on outside fan-fiction.
For instance, indoctrination is part of the trilogy since ME1. No fan inveted it. The symptoms of it are also known from ME1/2/3 and they have an interesting similarity with what we see in Shepard's dreams and later on in the ending of the game. Fans who observed these things and put 1 and 1 together did not invent it since it is all stuff that is in the games.

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Obadiah wrote...

You guys should seriously think about modding the game to have Refuse trigger low EMS Destroy or something, 'cause I don't think a successful refuse will happen.

That's not a bad idea actually.

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Could even use it to prove IT: do nothing and the Crucible just fires on its own, proving the Crucible was priming itself the whole time, and the Catalyst was just trying to get Shep to sabotage it. Everybody wins - er... on the PC at least.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

lol I'll speak to Mr. Fob about that.

i'm trying to defend 'refuse' on the it thread, but they're all too indoctrinated to think that refusal is a valid choice.

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dorktainian wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

lol I'll speak to Mr. Fob about that.

i'm trying to defend 'refuse' on the it thread, but they're all too indoctrinated to think that refusal is a valid choice.

They only accept destory that's the very nature of IT.

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dorktainian wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

lol I'll speak to Mr. Fob about that.

i'm trying to defend 'refuse' on the it thread, but they're all too indoctrinated to think that refusal is a valid choice.


Not...all of them. :lol:

I'm not sure which one is the valid, but Refuse definitely tastes better.

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dorktainian wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

lol I'll speak to Mr. Fob about that.

i'm trying to defend 'refuse' on the it thread, but they're all too indoctrinated to think that refusal is a valid choice.

Hey, there is/was a considerable amount of people in that thread (including me) that did not handwave Refuse away.

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@Restrider:

Unfortunately the warmth of the open palm clasping one's own, is more passing than the effects of the closed fist displacing portions of one's face. :9

Modifié par jojon2se, 07 janvier 2013 - 10:09 .


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When first saw refuse my first thoughts were that Shepard was Indoctorinated which I still believe.However saw potential in refuse that it could be sucessful if something was added at a later date.Otherwise it would of been a waist of time creating because it felt cut and dry.

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A complaint I keep seeing when PT is discussed is that an alternate ending would make the crucible “pointless”. Well the war asset mechanic  (the thing this whole game is based around) we have now IS pointless. Doesn’t the existence of a crucible that doesn’t really take into account your past decisions make playing ME3 rather pointless too? You spent the whole game making a diverse army and it turns out it doesn’t amount to much since the EMS requirement to get all the endings is quite low ( Especially now with the new DLC) and no matter what your choices were, it results in the same RBG choice. So really, these theories are trying to fix an already existing pointless component to the game. A very high war asset ending would fix that.

If people enjoy their choice of RBG, sincerely like them I mean, then such an alternate ending shouldn’t threaten that enjoyment. You really think your shep needs to die? Or merge all life with synthetics ? Then why the sour face when others simply want an ending choice that is different from yours. Is it a misery loves company thing?

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 08 janvier 2013 - 12:36 .


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I agree with Nightvayne: Refusal felt like some kind of placeholder from the first time I saw it. Everything was left very vague and defiant, in terms of what's visualized.

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I really hope Refuse will be a jumping off point for post ending DLC if post ending IT dlc isn't possible.

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Hyrule_Gal wrote...

A complaint I keep seeing when PT is discussed is that an alternate ending would make the crucible “pointless”. Well the war asset mechanic  (the thing this whole game is based around) we have now IS pointless
. Doesn’t the existence of a crucible that doesn’t really take into account your past decisions make playing ME3 rather pointless too? You spent the whole game making a diverse army and it turns out it doesn’t amount to much since the EMS requirement to get all the endings is quite low ( Especially now with the new DLC) and no matter what your choices were, it results in the same RBG choice. So really, these theories are trying to fix an already existing pointless component to the game. A very high war asset ending would fix that.

If people enjoy their choice of RBG, sincerely like them I mean, then such an alternate ending shouldn’t threaten that enjoyment. You really think your shep needs to die? Or merge all life with synthetics ? Then why the sour face when others simply want an ending choice that is different from yours. Is it a misery loves company thing?


That's very true, I'm fine with BW putting Crucible in the game to have it used as a last resort to win the war, but I'd like to see that refusing with high EMS will definitely defeat the reapers without making any sacrifices or forcing the changes on the galaxy. Then that will be a good ending for me. You can see Joker waiting by Shepard, but had to leave because the Crucible was activated. So BW should expand on that ending specifically, with Joker picking up Shepard and then they continue fighting.