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[Seifer006]

Modifié par Seifer006, 01 septembre 2013 - 03:05 .

[tMc Tallgeese]

Putting in-game kicks in ME3 is like putting a chandelier in an outhouse. Just doesn't belong.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

FROST4584 wrote...

I agree there should be a auto kick. If a person doesn't reach 10,000 points by like wave X, the person should be booted.

Example : There was this GI I was playing with this afternoon on Hydra/Cerb/Gold. By wave 4, he died 10 times (not exagerating), and had less than 2000 points. And that's because he used a missile on an Atlas who had half armor left. Sorry, this guy had to be booted. And the craptastic Turian Sentinel who was as nearly as bad as him too. Fortunately, I was booted by those EA servers. That's EA's way of telling me, don't waste your missiles. 

[Someone With Mass]

So I can get kicked during wave 11 by some butthurt kiddies? No thanks.

[cronshaw]

What do you need an in game kick feature for?

[tMc Tallgeese]

@Jay--You ask for an in-game kick and the EA server obliges. Sounds like it works.

[Seifer006]

Modifié par Seifer006, 01 septembre 2013 - 03:05 .

[FlamboyantRoy]

upinya slayin wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

It's a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!

Once a player meets certain criteria within a match they become eligible for kickin.

I like it.

For this to be a valid argument you have to state what you mean by 'criteria'.

murder is a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!

Once a person meets certain criteria within their life they become eligible for murder.

I like it.

And that's exactly why I was vague. Brainstormin'. 

"murder is a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!"

your logic is a joke. talkin about a VG here dude, and yes In-Game Kicks is good idea when the player has met the critieria of getting kick when the entire other team deems it necessary.

Simple Logic, lets stick with that

whats your criteria that a game could recognize.

low points? to what extent, and maybe that player is just ebing a good team player
deaths? maybe he keeps dying after reviving the other 3 guys

Definitely deaths, if you're dying every 30 seconds or so. You're eligible. If you're in 4th place and behind by say 15k points, you're eligible(please don't feed me that support class nonsense, even GEs kick ass). Other criteria could involve objectives. 

[Seifer006]

Modifié par Seifer006, 01 septembre 2013 - 03:05 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

tMc Tallgeese wrote...

@Jay--You ask for an in-game kick and the EA server obliges. Sounds like it works.

Yeah EA servers are very good at that. 

[upinya slayin]

Seifer006 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

It's a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!

Once a player meets certain criteria within a match they become eligible for kickin.

I like it.

For this to be a valid argument you have to state what you mean by 'criteria'.

murder is a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!

Once a person meets certain criteria within their life they become eligible for murder.

I like it.

And that's exactly why I was vague. Brainstormin'. 

"murder is a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!"

your logic is a joke. talkin about a VG here dude, and yes In-Game Kicks is good idea when the player has met the critieria of getting kick when the entire other team deems it necessary.

Simple Logic, lets stick with that

whats your criteria that a game could recognize.

low points? to what extent, and maybe that player is just ebing a good team player
deaths? maybe he keeps dying after reviving the other 3 guys

How about the entire other team makes the judgement. That's good enough for me. I've played enough Online games where It's not abuse ( 9 out of 10 ) there's always that 1% but that's not to say it's not a good idea.
Low Points?  Scoreboard is irrevalent
""deaths? maybe he keeps dying after reviving the other 3 guys"






Why would you kick a guy who's reviving others. LMAO!!!

thats my point. how can you set a criteriea? it would be based on numbers and numbers lie so there couldn't be one. it would have to be a vote. and that leaves it open to 3 people getting mad they "carried" the 4th guy or getting mad cause the 4th guy owned them all game and kicking him/her on wave 11 and he loses eveyrhting. people are too immature to have that kind of power

reminds me of when i first played madden online like 5 years ago and i had a game winning FG lined up (a gimme) and as sonn as i hiked the ball the guy paused and unpaused the game 3 times during my kick meter real quick cause it to be shanked and he won.

bad players ruin the game and since you can't stop people from being dicks the only way to fix it is try to limit their abilty to use their extreme dickyness to ruin others experiance

[upinya slayin]

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

It's a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!

Once a player meets certain criteria within a match they become eligible for kickin.

I like it.

For this to be a valid argument you have to state what you mean by 'criteria'.

murder is a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!

Once a person meets certain criteria within their life they become eligible for murder.

I like it.

And that's exactly why I was vague. Brainstormin'. 

"murder is a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!"

your logic is a joke. talkin about a VG here dude, and yes In-Game Kicks is good idea when the player has met the critieria of getting kick when the entire other team deems it necessary.

Simple Logic, lets stick with that

whats your criteria that a game could recognize.

low points? to what extent, and maybe that player is just ebing a good team player
deaths? maybe he keeps dying after reviving the other 3 guys

Definitely deaths, if you're dying every 30 seconds or so. You're eligible. If you're in 4th place and behind by say 15k points, you're eligible(please don't feed me that support class nonsense, even GEs kick ass). Other criteria could involve objectives. 

If i die 5 times in 2 minutes but get 15 revivies out of it should i
really get kicked? what if its a wave 10 hack on goddes in the middle.
do you know how many "revive parties" it takes to get through that?
alot!

and 15k isn't that much to be behind say

80k
75k
70k
55k

should the 55k get kicked? that looks like pretty good team work to me.

and support class is there for a reason. yeah the GE is way good. its not a support class.

I'm willing to bet 90% of the people here that brag about how good they are. probably aren't very good at all. I've played with some people here and they never talk about how good they are and they are really good. they could easily brag but don't. So get over it. if you are really taht good you can survive carrying 1 person through 1 game

[Someone With Mass]

Seifer006 wrote...

you that scared???? I doubt your going to be kick EVERY game.



wake up and realize its not going to happen. it's not going to happen

No, but I'm pretty sure that it'll happen enough to ****** me off.

[FlamboyantRoy]

upinya slayin wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

It's a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!

Once a player meets certain criteria within a match they become eligible for kickin.

I like it.

For this to be a valid argument you have to state what you mean by 'criteria'.

murder is a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!

Once a person meets certain criteria within their life they become eligible for murder.

I like it.

And that's exactly why I was vague. Brainstormin'. 

"murder is a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!"

your logic is a joke. talkin about a VG here dude, and yes In-Game Kicks is good idea when the player has met the critieria of getting kick when the entire other team deems it necessary.

Simple Logic, lets stick with that

whats your criteria that a game could recognize.

low points? to what extent, and maybe that player is just ebing a good team player
deaths? maybe he keeps dying after reviving the other 3 guys

How about the entire other team makes the judgement. That's good enough for me. I've played enough Online games where It's not abuse ( 9 out of 10 ) there's always that 1% but that's not to say it's not a good idea.
Low Points?  Scoreboard is irrevalent
""deaths? maybe he keeps dying after reviving the other 3 guys"






Why would you kick a guy who's reviving others. LMAO!!!

thats my point. how can you set a criteriea? it would be based on numbers and numbers lie so there couldn't be one. it would have to be a vote. and that leaves it open to 3 people getting mad they "carried" the 4th guy or getting mad cause the 4th guy owned them all game and kicking him/her on wave 11 and he loses eveyrhting. people are too immature to have that kind of power

reminds me of when i first played madden online like 5 years ago and i had a game winning FG lined up (a gimme) and as sonn as i hiked the ball the guy paused and unpaused the game 3 times during my kick meter real quick cause it to be shanked and he won.

bad players ruin the game and since you can't stop people from being dicks the only way to fix it is try to limit their abilty to use their extreme dickyness to ruin others experiance

But how common is behavior like that?

I've played in one of the worst gaming communities around, WoW. They implemented a vote kick system, it was used appropriately most of the time in my experience. But of course I heard stories about people getting kicked after the last boss etc etc. 

What with all the cheats and exploits in the game, this would hardly make a dent in the missle glitching, credit cheating community we have now. 

[maabdout]

It would be a good add. I've played all kinds of multiplayer games with kick systems and they work just fine..... I don't see why it would be a problem here

[DungeonHoek]

People's personal criteria for kicking is generally bordering on absurd standards that no one can full-fill.

Or need I point out all the self-important people who declared they would kick based on class, weaponry/level equips, and of course the all important (pointless) indicator of skill, N7 ranking.

An in-game kick can be tempting, sure, but it would just make things worse.

[Greqo]

No. I thought about it a while ago but I'm sure that at some point you would be 8 waves into the game and someone will kick you because their friend just logged on.

[FlamboyantRoy]

upinya slayin wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

It's a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!

Once a player meets certain criteria within a match they become eligible for kickin.

I like it.

For this to be a valid argument you have to state what you mean by 'criteria'.

murder is a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!

Once a person meets certain criteria within their life they become eligible for murder.

I like it.

And that's exactly why I was vague. Brainstormin'. 

"murder is a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!"

your logic is a joke. talkin about a VG here dude, and yes In-Game Kicks is good idea when the player has met the critieria of getting kick when the entire other team deems it necessary.

Simple Logic, lets stick with that

whats your criteria that a game could recognize.

low points? to what extent, and maybe that player is just ebing a good team player
deaths? maybe he keeps dying after reviving the other 3 guys

Definitely deaths, if you're dying every 30 seconds or so. You're eligible. If you're in 4th place and behind by say 15k points, you're eligible(please don't feed me that support class nonsense, even GEs kick ass). Other criteria could involve objectives. 

If i die 5 times in 2 minutes but get 15 revivies out of it should i
really get kicked? what if its a wave 10 hack on goddes in the middle.
do you know how many "revive parties" it takes to get through that?
alot!

and 15k isn't that much to be behind say

80k
75k
70k
55k

should the 55k get kicked? that looks like pretty good team work to me.

and support class is there for a reason. yeah the GE is way good. its not a support class.

I'm willing to bet 90% of the people here that brag about how good they are. probably aren't very good at all. I've played with some people here and they never talk about how good they are and they are really good. they could easily brag but don't. So get over it. if you are really taht good you can survive carrying 1 person through 1 game

I said eligble for kicking, I never said that these people would be instantly kicked. If the other players felt that the 55k wasn't contributing enough, tough sh*t. But I'm sure you'll find more reasonable players elsewhere. If people were just automatically kicked upon meeting criteria then your argument would be correct. But merely meeting the criteria puts the kick option on the table for the team to decide. 

Would it be abused? Of course. But what isn't abused in this game?

When playing with randoms I'd at least have a chance to play with more than one other person that can carry their own weight and be able to kick the undesirables. Or like now, I can suffer through the match, using all my rockets on wave 10 because my teammates apparently don't know what a target is, or how to deliver a device. 

[Greqo]

maabdout wrote...

It would be a good add. I've played all kinds of multiplayer games with kick systems and they work just fine..... I don't see why it would be a problem here

Have you played L4D with douchebags. That kick system was just as good as it was bad. Little people tend to abuse power.

[IAMREALITY]

And like you, those who agree would be dead wrong, period. This will never happen. The devs thankfully are smart enough to know better.

[Zkyire]

Seifer006 wrote...

Title Says It All, I'm sure many of you would agree

> Scoring above another player.

> Their ego gets hurt.

> They start a kick-vote.

No way I'd support that feature.

[Homey C-Dawg]

I don't think Bioware's gonna add any more easily abused features to the game, regardless of usefulness.

[Seifer006]

Modifié par Seifer006, 01 septembre 2013 - 03:06 .

[upinya slayin]

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

FlamboyantRoy wrote...

It's a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!

Once a player meets certain criteria within a match they become eligible for kickin.

I like it.

For this to be a valid argument you have to state what you mean by 'criteria'.

murder is a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!

Once a person meets certain criteria within their life they become eligible for murder.

I like it.

And that's exactly why I was vague. Brainstormin'. 

"murder is a bad idea on paper, but with tweaking it could turn out to be a great one!"

your logic is a joke. talkin about a VG here dude, and yes In-Game Kicks is good idea when the player has met the critieria of getting kick when the entire other team deems it necessary.

Simple Logic, lets stick with that

whats your criteria that a game could recognize.

low points? to what extent, and maybe that player is just ebing a good team player
deaths? maybe he keeps dying after reviving the other 3 guys

How about the entire other team makes the judgement. That's good enough for me. I've played enough Online games where It's not abuse ( 9 out of 10 ) there's always that 1% but that's not to say it's not a good idea.
Low Points?  Scoreboard is irrevalent
""deaths? maybe he keeps dying after reviving the other 3 guys"






Why would you kick a guy who's reviving others. LMAO!!!

thats my point. how can you set a criteriea? it would be based on numbers and numbers lie so there couldn't be one. it would have to be a vote. and that leaves it open to 3 people getting mad they "carried" the 4th guy or getting mad cause the 4th guy owned them all game and kicking him/her on wave 11 and he loses eveyrhting. people are too immature to have that kind of power

reminds me of when i first played madden online like 5 years ago and i had a game winning FG lined up (a gimme) and as sonn as i hiked the ball the guy paused and unpaused the game 3 times during my kick meter real quick cause it to be shanked and he won.

bad players ruin the game and since you can't stop people from being dicks the only way to fix it is try to limit their abilty to use their extreme dickyness to ruin others experiance

But how common is behavior like that?

I've played in one of the worst gaming communities around, WoW. They implemented a vote kick system, it was used appropriately most of the time in my experience. But of course I heard stories about people getting kicked after the last boss etc etc. 

What with all the cheats and exploits in the game, this would hardly make a dent in the missle glitching, credit cheating community we have now. 

difference is credit glitching, missle glitching etc all take away from BWs pocket not the players directly. they take away from teh players fun but only for 1 game then they can leave or kick the glitcher.

a kick system allows other players to directly screw over other players (right now they can only screw over BW) and that would not be good.playing for 20 mins to beat a gold and earn 400k exp and 75 credits tehn getting kicke don wave 11 becuase i scored way more then the 3 friends i was playing with doens't sound appealing to me. i'd rather carry a really bad player though the match anyday. and in reality gold doens't take 4 players to beat. 1 amazing player can carry 3 bad ones (i'm not good enough for that) 2 great players can carry 2 bad players  3 good players can carry 1 bad player.

step your game up. people wanting an in game kick make me feel like they aren't good enough and want to blame the other guy who is even worse then they are and wants somebody to come in and carry them. worse case let them die every wave and just run it with 3 people while the bad player acts as a human decoy for the first 2 mins of each wave

[DungeonHoek]

Greqo wrote...

maabdout wrote...

It would be a good add. I've played all kinds of multiplayer games with kick systems and they work just fine..... I don't see why it would be a problem here

Have you played L4D with douchebags. That kick system was just as good as it was bad. Little people tend to abuse power.

Tell me about it.

When I first started playing so long ago, I died as a Boomer, BAM!, vote kicked off. Neverminding that suiciding the Boomer is a legit tactic against survivors if you can slow them down and have no other options. But no, he died, so he sucks. Out he went.

And there was another time, I got stuck as the Tank in L4D2, I'm not particularly good as the Tank, but I can slow people down and of course give my "Team" time to do their job. Funny how, they don't, and decide to vote kick me instead :/

It's this kind of crap that has lead me to playing soley with my friends these days.