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Travis2310 wrote...

android654 wrote...

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Loved the movie. Hated Catwoman. Too whorish for me.


Who knew the Amish had computers and saw movies.


She was such a b****. And she sold Batman out multiple times. I would have strapped her to the bomb before taking it out to the water.


What does that have to do with her being whorish? It also shows you never read a Batman comic in your life. It's what she does. She takes advantage of Batman a lot. First because she could, then because it was her way of flirting with him. Not to mention, Batman lets her get away with just about anything she wanted to anyway.

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TDKR is divisive for a reason. It will always be divisive. Bruce wanting to retire as soon as the second movie, which means he was Batman all of a few years? Always bugged me.

Modifié par slimgrin, 24 juillet 2012 - 12:29 .


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Did people get pissed about the talia twist? My brother got more pissed off than he did at ME3's endings over the twist, said it ruined the whole movie and made bane a **** whipped waste of time.

Wondering if me thinking the twist was great is common or if the thought that the twist killed the movie was the more common opinion.

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xsdob wrote...

Did people get pissed about the talia twist? My brother got more pissed off than he did at ME3's endings over the twist, said it ruined the whole movie and made bane a **** whipped waste of time.

Wondering if me thinking the twist was great is common or if the thought that the twist killed the movie was the more common opinion.


Personally, I loved it, especially it's role in tying together the first film. But I wouldn't say it makes Bane a waste of time. Sure, it's not really just "his" plan, but he still played a key role in orchestrating the downfall of Gotham. And all the charisma was still him. It didn't bother me anymore than Darth Vader turning out to be the Emperor's slave for all of Return of the Jedi.

Modifié par Il Divo, 24 juillet 2012 - 01:08 .


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xsdob wrote...

Did people get pissed about the talia twist? My brother got more pissed off than he did at ME3's endings over the twist, said it ruined the whole movie and made bane a **** whipped waste of time.

Wondering if me thinking the twist was great is common or if the thought that the twist killed the movie was the more common opinion.


How they actually handled the twist in terms of the actual scene was a bit weak. But revealing Talia as somehow making Bane out to be a **** or somehow just a henchman? No. Thats stupid. Bane still did all of the stuff that he did of his own volition and of his own autonomy. Hell, at the end Talia wants Bane not to kill Batman but make him suffer longer, when instead it looks like Bane is going to off Batman right away.

Talia and Bane were equals really in terms of both having the same aims and goals more or less. Is Batman a **** or whipped because he's trying to save Gotham alongside Gordon? No.

You could make the argument that putting Talia in at the very end makes the movie more convoluted than it needs to be as opposed to if Nolan just left things with just Bane.


Thinking back I wonder if the problems with the second act could have been fixed a bit if instead of cutting back to Gotham under Bane's rule, if Nolan just kept all the focus on Bruce in the prison uninterupted. Then just follow Bruce back to Gotham and the viewer sees alongside Bruce just how bad things have gotten. Although that would likely end up with more exposition once Bruce gets back to Gotham.


Talia had a really awkward death scene too. But I did like the paralell between how Nolan shot how Ra's and Talia ended up dying- the shot with the trick flying down the and hitting the street was pretty similar to the train flying off the tracks in Begins with Ra's.

Modifié par Brockololly, 24 juillet 2012 - 01:44 .


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Travis2310 wrote...

Loved the movie. Hated Catwoman. Too whorish for me.

Well that's pretty much how Catwoman always acts in most Batman media these days.
I went and saw this film yesterday and I was so excited. Loved it, my only criticism was that it was a little too busy at times which made the movie longer than it should be. The characters were great, my particular favourites were Blake and Catwoman. And I never though I would shed a tear in a Batman film but damn it Alfred:crying:
The ending was clever and I think it might lead to a Robin spin-off movie.

Modifié par Andarthiel_Demigod, 24 juillet 2012 - 04:24 .


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Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

Travis2310 wrote...

Loved the movie. Hated Catwoman. Too whorish for me.

Well that's pretty much how Catwoman always acts in most Batman media these days.


I didn't find her whorish. She was seducive yeah, but that's just catwoman. She knows how to use what ehr mother gave her to get what she wants XD

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@Brockololly Bruce's journey back to Gotham would have been interesting. It would at least have been more interesting than his escape, which was fairly predictable.

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xsdob wrote...

Did people get pissed about the talia twist? My brother got more pissed off than he did at ME3's endings over the twist, said it ruined the whole movie and made bane a **** whipped waste of time.

Wondering if me thinking the twist was great is common or if the thought that the twist killed the movie was the more common opinion.


I didn't care for the twist they shouldn't have included Talia at all.

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Am I the only one who diddnt really care much for the movie, I mean I enjoyed the last 2 but this one was just so boring and predictable, I mean you could see every twist, every plot point and every scene comming a mile away and in the end you were just waiting for the movie to reach its logical conclusion which took far longer than it should have considering the length of the movie.

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Ghost Lightning wrote...

Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

Travis2310 wrote...

Loved the movie. Hated Catwoman. Too whorish for me.

Well that's pretty much how Catwoman always acts in most Batman media these days.


I didn't find her whorish. She was seducive yeah, but that's just catwoman. She knows how to use what ehr mother gave her to get what she wants XD


Using your body to get what you want = w.h.o.r.e

I don't like how Batman sits there and allows her manipulation to happen. He could probably take her out in 6 seconds.

But I loved the movie overall. I didn't think it was too long (unlike the Avengers), and I think it was well written. I gasped in my chair when that Talia skank stabbed Batman Image IPB

Modifié par Travis2310, 25 juillet 2012 - 02:25 .


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^^Someone's a big fan of women.

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Damn good movie - not as focused as The Dark Knight but bigger and better overall IMHO. I had doubts Anne Hathaway could pull off a convincing Catwoman, but they were completely laid to rest the moment Bruce walked in and caught her wearing his mother's necklace.

Also, I found Bane's speech about midway through the movie in front of City Hall to be... disturbingly relevant. I don't know if that was intentional on Nolan's part, but it sent a shiver down my spine all the same.

All in all, I think this movie goes to 11.

Modifié par greengoron89, 25 juillet 2012 - 02:47 .


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Using your body to get what you want = w.h.o.r.e

No, a **** is a woman who provides sexual favours in exchange for money.

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GodWood wrote...

Travis2310 wrote...
Using your body to get what you want = w.h.o.r.e

No, a **** is a woman who provides sexual favours in exchange for money.


QFT.

Using your body to get what you want could mean several different things. You could argue that Batman or Bane does that actually.

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LOL. Better Catwoman use her body to get what she wants than Bane or Batman - dislocated spines aren't quite as fun as being seduced by a lovely lady, I think.

Doesn't seem our friend Travis here agrees with that sentiment, though - but you know what they say: one man's pain...

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greengoron89 wrote...

Doesn't seem our friend Travis here agrees with that sentiment, though - but you know what they say: one man's pain...


You never know. He doesn' seem to like women much so......

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Hey, if he gets his kicks from large, muscular men body slamming him like a rag doll, who are we to judge? :P

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LOL I just pictured Shepard (cause his avatar) screaming "Punish me!!"

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Saw this for the second time tonight. After first seeing it in IMAX the difference was very noticeable, but still looked good.

Still can't help thinking though that while the ending was great (I like the happy ending better than the "hero must die" mantra), it would have been freaking awesome to see a Riddler question mark or Penguin statue at the end too. Just to show that no matter where Bruce/Batman is, Gotham will always need to be saved from someone.

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 70 logical gripes with The Dark Knight Rises:

http://www.imdb.com/...t/202245927?p=1 

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How is distaste for two fictional characters equal to a general distaste in women?

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I liked how Nolan ended the film

Didn't like how Bane died I was expecting a more Ra's Al Ghul and Harvey Dent death'ish and pointless characters being shoehorned in the film (Tate, Blake and to name a few).

Bane as the prime antagonist would've sufficed and for a Batman film, there wasn't enough to call it Batman

Modifié par k177sh0t, 25 juillet 2012 - 09:20 .


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Loved the movie, but for me personally i really really missed Joker, it had an awesome feeling tho, but not quite as when the Joker was in it.

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k177sh0t wrote...

I liked how Nolan ended the film

Didn't like how Bane died I was expecting a more Ra's Al Ghul and Harvey Dent death'ish and pointless characters being shoehorned in the film (Tate, Blake and to name a few).

Bane as the prime antagonist would've sufficed and for a Batman film, there wasn't enough to call it Batman


How do you know he actually dies? (he could also come back for a re-introducing of Venom)
:)

Anyway, just returned from cinema myself, and I liked the movie. I did not find it as interesting and well-made as Begins, and for personal opinions enjoyed it even more than Dark Knight (yes, I do think DK is pretty bad in ways, and in this it left a sour taste - I particularly don't enjoy the "deep" subjects that are dealt with "meaningful" quoteable sentences and such, the topics of "chaos vs order", "is this justice?", "are all corruptible?" and "what's in the nature of (super)men?" took too much of the time and pacing away, and they felt not only meaningless but also confusing - especially by the "deep" overtones that could get too much a hold of maniac and simpleton alike)

edit: and I absolutely ADORED Anne Hathaway as Catwoman. <3

Modifié par eroeru, 25 juillet 2012 - 07:18 .