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[Killahead]

Anyone else think being able to dodge through walls could be a gamebreaker? I love the idea, but it seems like the best tool for survivability ever and the characters that can do it should have some other drawbacks because of this IMO. They are not more squishy than the regular humans (same amount of health/ shields), their powers seem at least as powerful, and they can friggin teleport.

[Influ]

Krozuhsky wrote...

I may have two builds for it.
TC:Duration,Melee
Shadow Strike: 6
Electric Slash:6
Passive:3
Fitness:6
Or 5 in Electric Slash and 5 in Passive.

This is what I was thinking about. Just need to get some info on the Electric Slash evolutions to figure out if it's worth investing in the passive much.

[Stardusk]

Killahead wrote...

Anyone else think being able to dodge through walls could be a gamebreaker? I love the idea, but it seems like the best tool for survivability ever and the characters that can do it should have some other drawbacks because of this IMO. They are not more squishy than the regular humans (same amount of health/ shields), their powers seem at least as powerful, and they can friggin teleport.

How could it be a gamebreaker? In the footage we saw terrible players playing apparently amazing classes terribly. Good players will make good use of it, bad players won't. And with Platinum I doubt a teleport dodge will save you completely anyway.

[Mandalore313]

This class looks like it could solo geth like nobody's business.

[Killahead]

Stardusk wrote...

Killahead wrote...

Anyone else think being able to dodge through walls could be a gamebreaker? I love the idea, but it seems like the best tool for survivability ever and the characters that can do it should have some other drawbacks because of this IMO. They are not more squishy than the regular humans (same amount of health/ shields), their powers seem at least as powerful, and they can friggin teleport.

How could it be a gamebreaker? In the footage we saw terrible players playing apparently amazing classes terribly. Good players will make good use of it, bad players won't. And with Platinum I doubt a teleport dodge will save you completely anyway.

How could it not? Oh, something's shooting me, I'm outta here *teleports through the nearest wall*. The asari and drell dodge make their survivability great if you know how to use them even though they have low health and shields. These characters get a superior dodge and the same amount of health/ shields as the regular humans. I personally like for characters to limit me some way or the other, if I have a really agile character I want it to be squishy, makes it a lot more interesting to play.

But again, we'll have to wait and see before any judgment is passed.

[MIA115]

Just did the math. With full melee spec on fitness, full melee equips, the new omniblade thing (from what I've heard it's a 50% boost), and damage/melee spec'd TC you can get up to a 350% boost. That means that you could do 4.5 times the normal damage for Shadow Strike. Holy crap.

[AzureSky899]

MIA115 wrote...

Just did the math. With full melee spec on fitness, full melee equips, the new omniblade thing (from what I've heard it's a 50% boost), and damage/melee spec'd TC you can get up to a 350% boost. That means that you could do 4.5 times the normal damage for Shadow Strike. Holy crap.

.......wouldn't like that be OHK on gold and maybe even Plat? Let the nerfers cries of OPness begin!!!!.........by full melee equips you mean, Hydraulic V and Strenght III(haven't gotten any IV for weapon bonus yet) and isn't mods only for when you actually melee with weapon ie. melee stun thing on pistol doesn't stun unless it's pistol bash....still holy crap.....

[tonnactus]

If shadow strike is a power,it shouldnt decloak the shadow if bonus power is choosen,rigth?(despite melee)

Modifié par tonnactus, 14 juillet 2012 - 05:18 .

[tonnactus]

MIA115 wrote...

Just did the math. With full melee spec on fitness, full melee equips, the new omniblade thing (from what I've heard it's a 50% boost), and damage/melee spec'd TC you can get up to a 350% boost. That means that you could do 4.5 times the normal damage for Shadow Strike. Holy crap.

Well,its kind of an melee infiltrator,so oneshotting phantoms should be possible.

[JerZey CJ]

tonnactus wrote...

If shadow strike is power,it shouldnt decloak the shadow if bonus power is choosen,rigth?(despite melee)

You can indeed use it from cloak, and then use it a second time to uncloak, confimred by a Dev.

[AzureSky899]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

If shadow strike is power,it shouldnt decloak the shadow if bonus power is choosen,rigth?(despite melee)

You can indeed use it from cloak, and then use it a second time to uncloak, confimred by a Dev.

 If you chose duration, if you chose damage bonus, you'd decloak before 2nd SS....unless Shadow has longer base TC

[Sailears]

Woah woah, shadow strike is governed by melee power?

So that means 6/6/3/5/6 (ignoring electric slash for the most part), max melee in fitness, max melee damage for cloak, go to town!

Fantastic.


Edit, yes the quesiton is tactical cloak
- damage, melee, or
- duration, melee, bonus power, or
- damage, melee, bonus power (if SS cooldown is short enough?)


Edit 2: oh wait, no need to go to 5 in the passive if power damage bonuses are only affecting slash. May as well put the points in that instead.

Edit 3: maybe just weapon damage bonuses in the passive then.

Modifié par Curunen, 14 juillet 2012 - 03:39 .

[Kronner]

Who needs Electric Slash when you can Cloak and assassinate with a freaking blade. 66066 it is for me.

[Influ]

Kronner wrote...

Who needs Electric Slash when you can Cloak and assassinate with a freaking blade. 66066 it is for me.

Electric Slash for AoE out of cloak?

[BoomDynamite]

Killahead wrote...

Anyone else think being able to dodge through walls could be a gamebreaker? I love the idea, but it seems like the best tool for survivability ever and the characters that can do it should have some other drawbacks because of this IMO. They are not more squishy than the regular humans (same amount of health/ shields), their powers seem at least as powerful, and they can friggin teleport.

You lose Shields. It's like the Asari roll.

[AzureSky899]

Quick question.....why are we also talking about dodgin through walls, the Shadow doesn't dodge through walls except by SS....

[Stance Punk]

So the Shadow Strike is a power but it benefits from melee bonuses?

[JerZey CJ]

Stance Punk wrote...

So the Shadow Strike is a power but it benefits from melee bonuses?

Precisley.

[BoomDynamite]

AzureSky899 wrote...

Quick question.....why are we also talking about dodgin through walls, the Shadow doesn't dodge through walls except by SS....

No, she does. Or does she?

[sy7ar]

Wonder how good shadow can strike boss units

[Kronner]

Influ wrote...
out of cloak?

What's that? 

Nah seriously, I never liked the smash/lash stuff, so at least I can easily ignore a similar AoE on this class without losing anything.

[AzureSky899]

Ye we don't need ES, cause I'd cloak, SS, melee some, SS, melee some, SS etc....SS seemed to have a 2-3 second CD

[Qror_pl]

My schizophrenia is getting worse... Btw, Bioware, did you fix that 100% damage bonus to incinirate? It would be good, because for now the new sentinel seems underpowered.

Modifié par Qror_pl, 14 juillet 2012 - 03:50 .

[JerZey CJ]

BoomDynamite wrote...

AzureSky899 wrote...

Quick question.....why are we also talking about dodgin through walls, the Shadow doesn't dodge through walls except by SS....

No, she does. Or does she?

She doesn't. The Shadow has the Phantom/Drell dodges.

[Influ]

Kronner wrote...

Nah seriously, I never liked the smash/lash stuff, so at least I can easily ignore a similar AoE on this class without losing anything.

And as far as I know, the slashing before the shockwave effect damages enemies around you too. It'll probably work just fine with just Shadow Strike, but having something a bit more beefy for bunched up baddies is probably nice to have.