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#126
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SinerAthin wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

BoomDynamite wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

You can get more melee damage bonuses than power damage bonuses :)

All of the Fitness ones, +50% from new weapon mods, +50% from TC Evo 3, +40% (For me at least) from TC extra damage. Wow.


Yes, Shadow Strike can do a ton of damage.


How much is a 'tonne' of damage?

I'm thinking Gold and Platinum here, mainly, fighting phantoms & other heavily armed troops.

He said ton, the imperial counterpart not to be confused with the Metric tonne. Both are correct.
If you take him litteraly, Shadow Strike will have a force of 8900 newtons.

Modifié par SalvationThroughDestruction, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:23 .


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AzureSky899 wrote...

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Drayce333 wrote...

Yup, she is going to be overpowered.

Stack melee, cloak time bonus, bonus power to remain cloak after shadow strike....

Hell they even give you a worse version of shockwave so you don't even have to bother specing in that.

To me it looks like tech Smash that have lower range and a longer animation.


Actually I swear it has a longer reach..........I'm gonna 6/6/6/0/6 cause power damage only useful on ES and thus waste and I will almost never use my weapon, this is assuming of course ES has worthwhile evolutions at 4,5 and 6..... Posted Image 

What if their class passive has some bonuses to melee or power damage?

Modifié par JerZeyCJ2, 14 juillet 2012 - 11:37 .


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i can't find any n7 shadow video =(

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shadowkinz wrote...

i can't find any n7 shadow video =(

Here you go it kind of sucks though, the majority of the gameplay is just the guy sniping with a Widow X, on Bronze, with max gear and consumable. Very boring. SS looks aweosme though.

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sweet found one!!!

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JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

shadowkinz wrote...

i can't find any n7 shadow video =(

Here you go it kind of sucks though, the majority of the gameplay is just the guy sniping with a Widow X, on Bronze, with max gear and consumable. Very boring. SS looks aweosme though.


thanks!
 
yeah that punk shoulda went MMRAHHH :o
he has a sword HOW DID HE CONTAIN HIMSELF XD

#132
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oh sick the new game mode reminds me of global agenda haha.. you have to stand on the thing to make it move forward (for the escort)

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Let the Ninja Gaiden begin!!!!!!!!!!!

#134
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Bump for my soon-to-be Strategy guide thread

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Alath01 wrote...

 Guys,i know that we have to try things first,but i was thinking about making a shadow melee build focused on cqc and power damage for shadow strike/electric slash
Basically it's 
6tac cloac(utility)
6/0shadow strike
0/6 electric slash
6alliance training
6 fitness (melee dmg)

It would be really hard and it could not be good for platinum or even gold but we can always try :P


Shadow Strike damage is considered melee so it gets damage bonuses from Fitness upgrades and melee equipment, and not power damage upgrades.

Electric Slash is considered power damage though so it behaves like other powers.



Oh my... those blade attachments are looking spicy as hell now.

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coool

can shadow strike set off or trigger tech or biotic explosions since it's a power?

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MartialArtsSurfer wrote...

coool

can shadow strike set off or trigger tech or biotic explosions since it's a power?

I don't think so. It counts as a melee attack.

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Cant wait to test which is better.

SS>Claymore>SS

Or SS>Claymore

Doesnt matter either way I found my new vanguard class

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I wonder how many people on Gold but especially Platinum are going to think they will kill everything in sight only to wipe out multiple times.

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We get it. You hate having to hear how a hyped mechanic no one has seen can be.


Now stop bringing down the topic sir buzzz killington

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With how short the cooldown seems to be, I wonder if I can solo Bronze(maybe Silver) using only Shadow Strike and melee? Could be fun, just ninja-ing all over the place.

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Edalborez wrote...

I'd assume anything that puts your character in reeling stagger (most enemy melee, Atlas missile) would cancel the roll, just as they cancel melee and such.


Yes, the teleport evades follow the same rules as regular evades (rolls) except they go through cover and walls :)


so its sort of like the banshee teleporting ability... but player controlled...


well it is something we kind of asked for isnt it...

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bump

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Another interesting question: Does a shadowstrike kill activate material artist?

Then this class would be pure win.

Modifié par tonnactus, 15 juillet 2012 - 01:02 .


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BoomDynamite wrote...

Drayce333 wrote...

Yup, she is going to be overpowered.

Stack melee, cloak time bonus, bonus power to remain cloak after shadow strike....

Hell they even give you a worse version of shockwave so you don't even have to bother specing in that.

To me it looks like tech Smash that have lower range and a longer animation.

But keep in mind, apparently the slashing before the shockwave effect also damages enemies around you, so that alone makes it infiinitely better to use up close.

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tonnactus wrote...

Another interesting question: Does a shadowstrike kill activate material artist?

Then this class would be pure win.

Even if it doesn't it will probably put you in range of another enemy to use it.

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CheetahZ1 wrote...

Cant wait to test which is better.

SS>Claymore>SS

Or SS>Claymore

Doesnt matter either way I found my new vanguard class


Its an infiltrator

#148
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tonnactus wrote...

Another interesting question: Does a shadowstrike kill activate material artist?

Then this class would be pure win.

I don't think it counts as a veavy melee. It will, however, get the bonus from killing an enemy with a heavy melee attack. So, heavy melee kill, then SS.

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No I agree with you completely. I've tried the low shields build on say, my drells and **** my life, it's retarded. Don't do it. I play exclusively gold and having such a squishy character is just dumb and unfair to the rest of the team mates. If shadow is going to work in the same principals then honestly **** shadow.

BioWare seems to know how to make all the moves and abilities flashy but are having problems balancing it with the different difficulties. Sure a Shadow might work great on bronze, but if it doesn't work in platinum, isn't there something wrong with your design philosophy?

I don't know, haven't tried the characters so can't say much about them. I really do hope that they're not complete shiite though. Looking forward to playing as the slayer as vanguard is my favorite class :)

#150
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Im hoping Shadow Strike works as a pseudo charge though. Seriously three second charge time for no shield regen? Im down. As long as theyre invincible while teleporting I dont see a problem. The biggest issue is going to be when SS drops cloak during the beginning of the animation or when damage is achieved. Also where tbe I frames are at if any. Also, can I be seen in cloak during startup? Etc etc?

Hell if its lik Kasumi's and you end up behind the enemy itll be a better charge for like banshees and such