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Games like DAO, what would you recommend?


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Don't tell her about Diablo. She's a girl ffs! xD

Diablo is comparable to sports and beer. Man stuff... ^^

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Felix_Domestica wrote...

Don't tell her about Diablo. She's a girl ffs! xD
Diablo is comparable to sports and beer. Man stuff... ^^

:bandit:We are not responsible for any wimmens that sell their soul to Blizzard trying to get through hell mode!!!

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I'd consider the Diablo series to be pretty far from DA, though. That's totally just hack and slash, with the story there for window dressing, and you're only controlling one character rather than a party.



Final Fantasy XII might be a better fit; it uses a system similar to the tactics in DA, and the combat is closer to DA than most JRPGs (not sure about romance, though; I really need to finish the game).



I'd definitely second the suggestions on Planescape Torment, KotOR, and Mass Effect. I have BG2, but I didn't get very far into it (I was trying to play it like NWN, which was a mistake).



The Elder Scrolls games tend to have the story play second fiddle to the sandbox aspect, which I love, but your mileage may vary.



NWN 2's story sort of lost me (another game that I need to finish, especially considering what I've seen here about MotB). However, the gameplay is very similar.



I never really gave The Witcher a chance, since after Fallout 3 I was sick of looking at depressing scenery. It's very... grey.

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drakensang is not a bad choice either, even the history is not as good as DAO.. if you like bioware games you can try Jade empire, wish has good history too ( even the game engine isnt good).

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NWN 2 MotB has perhaps the most in common with DA gameplay, though it's still very different of course, and smaller. NWN 1 HotU is great too.

KotoR has a fantastic story, so does Mass Effect. I can't praise the latter enough. Don't let the FPS elements discourage you. Good romances too. KotoR 2 is bad though, very unfinished.

If you don't mind the 2D graphics, get BG 2. It's still worth it. And if you like romances, no other game until today has managed to implement so lengthy and beautiful romances, nor intertwined them so well with the rest of the story.

PS:T is not very similar to DA:O, I didn't like it very much.

Oblivion and especially Fallout 3 are great games, but they put much more focus on action than on story, NPCs, companions or romances (in fact there are none).

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I  was actually really surprised and enjoyed the solo, action RPG - Divinity 2, successor to Divine Divinity

http://www.divinity2.com/

http://www.metacriti...ity2egodraconis

Believe its not out across the Pond until early 2010, but its been available in Europe for a little time now.

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thesmallearth wrote...

I  was actually really surprised and enjoyed the solo, action RPG - Divinity 2, successor to Divine Divinity

http://www.divinity2.com/

http://www.metacriti...ity2egodraconis

Believe its not out across the Pond until early 2010, but its been available in Europe for a little time now.


Woah!:o  I liked what i saw!

Now i know where i will bid my time untill DA:O2 is out :whistle:

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If you don't like FPS, maybe Oblivion is not the game to play. Although it is indeed an RPG, it is a far shot from DA:O.



As others have been pointing out, Baldur's Gate 2 is the closest you'll get to DA:O, and in many ways the "prequel" to it in terms of setting, combat, and writing. Depending on what it is that you like about DA:O, I would say aim for everything made by Bioware. Anything else will disappoint you.

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I don't even think of Mass Effect as a FPS. It's hardly an important aspect. I don't even like FPS games... Mass Effect is one of best games I've ever played.



No idea on KOTOR, as I usually ignore anything related to Star Wars.



NWN2 Original Campaign was okay, but MoTB was AMAZING.



Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2 are stunning. I couldn't bring myself to finish the BG2 expansion though.



Diablo 2 is a great hack'n'slash game. Definitely Action RPG, Overarching story is wonderful, but there's little constant story. Great world though.



I never take my games online. Battle.net destroyed any hope I had of enjoyable co-operative play. If I play online, it's through an MMO (though there aren't any good ones out there since Vanguard sold it's soul)

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Jade Empire. It may have an incredibly basic combat system, but the storyline and setting is great. It also has a widely experienced and varied cast of voice actors.

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Baldur's Gate 2 for story and companions (first one is excellent but companions dont talk much).

Planescape Torment

NWN2 and first expansion mask of the betrayer and adventure Mysteries of Westgate

Mass Effect (awesome story and graphics but play as a biotic if you find shooting games dull)

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  • Planescape: Torment <3
  • Baldur's Gate
  • Mass Effect
  • Neverwinter Nights
  • Temple of Elemental Evil <3 (with the "Circle of Eight" fix-pack)
  • Knights of the Old Republic
  • Icewind Dale

For the older games (i.e. pre-Mass Effect) make sure you get all the fan-fix patches first.

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I cannot recommend NWN2, because it sucks and MOTB isn't worth getting NWN2 vanilla for, so



only baldur's gate 2 and planescape are games that play like DAO and are also good enough.

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thesmallearth

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Kotor 2 with the Stoney's great TSL restored Content Mod;



http://www.deadlystr...022e85722&f=123




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I can only recommend for PC. Also most Bioware games excel on the PC.



I very much enjoyed Vampire Bloodlines. It's based on a Pen&Paper RPG "Vampire, The Masquerade" and gave me a deep immersion. Quite dark as you play a bloodsucking vampire plunged into a world with unkown rules, dangers and intrigue while being able to kill normal humans like flies. Good story, multiple endings. You need to make sure you get the last patch though, because the original release had a game-breaking bug. Even with Troika being gone some sites still have downloads available.



KotOR series is good, but I can only recommend the first part. The second one has some good writing, but many bugs and was basically unfinished at release with no patch ever completing it.



Mass Effect is Sci-Fi, has a new setting and story, but in fact it really blew me away. Perhaps the FPS style combat seems unusual for a RPG, but makes sense, fits the game well, and while not being a strong FPS enthusiast I liked it and didn't find it too hard. Can't wait to play Mass Effect 2.



NWN was a milestone in game development history. Still many modders of the community produce new modules. Some modules had more enjoyable stories than the original campaign. Graphics is outdated, but music and gameplay still fun.



NWN2 is technically very advanced compared to NWN or KotOR. Original campaign has some good and new ideas. But like NWN, I'd only get a deluxe package with the two extensions on board. Perhaps the best choice, if you like a game not too far away from DA:O in terms of graphics and gameplay.



Jade Empire is a more action focused martial arts style RPG. Great story and immersion. Especially if you enjoy Kung-Fu movies and the flavour of a mostly Chinese type of setting. I enjoyed this game a lot. Fighting is very roughly comparable to a 3D beat 'em up game with various styles, but not too hard for a beginner. Maybe the only game on PC I'd say a gamepad can improve the game experience, even while I didn't use one.



The Witcher (Enhanced Edition) is at the top of my wish-list. Played the demo. Will be well worth buying it. Soon! (Shop around my corner didn't have it in stock.)



Drakensang, Risen... being from Germany as well, I should paise them, shouldn't I? Well, I downloaded and played the demos. They are both good. But I'd prefer previous mentioned games above those. In fact after DA:O I have a hard time liking those anymore. Matter of taste though. Drakensang is based on a Pen&Paper RPG quite similar to D&D, but with a totally different setting and some differences in ruleset. Risen is created from the same developers as Gothic series, who did a dreadful job with Gothic 3 (too many bugs, etc.). It's supposed to be good, but I'll probably not play it myself.



Morrowind and Oblivion... I started Morrowind, never finished it. Good game, but wasn't as much my type. Or maybe simply lack of time. Expecting Oblivion to be similar, so didn't get it.



Fallout 3: Didn't play it yet. Quite high on my wish-list. Looking forward to it.



Other games worth considering: The Summoner, BG series, Fallout series. If you like action-rpgs you may like Diablo series, Sacred series, Dungeon Siege. RPG with RTS would be Spellforce series.

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myth 2, soulblighter. get into the best game ever made :P

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Hmmmmm, anyone remember that game from the eighties where you had to conquer old England through jousting tournaments and laying siege to castles? It was about Normans vs Saxons if I remember right, had some love scene, and at some point you got to meet up with some Sir Robin in Sherwood Forest as well if I remember correctly.

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AsheraII wrote...

Hmmmmm, anyone remember that game from the eighties where you had to conquer old England through jousting tournaments and laying siege to castles? It was about Normans vs Saxons if I remember right, had some love scene, and at some point you got to meet up with some Sir Robin in Sherwood Forest as well if I remember correctly.

You mean "Defender of the Crown", which I played on my Amiga 500 back then. In fact, while having been some fun, it actually wasn't a great game.

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All of the above recommendations are good solid RPGs. My out in left field recommendations:

If you have never played WoW, at least give the trial a shot. Couple months ago, I took a Hunter from start to level 70 and never partied even once. Joined no guild. Told everyone asking for help to bugger off. No grind either. You can solo WoW all the way to 80 easily enough. Google the addons QuestHelper and Cartographer if you do. Oh, and Herbalism and Mining for professions and you will be rich rich rich. When I bought my elite flying mount at level 70, I had 11,000 g, and had spent gold throughout the game like a cow going "wee" on a flat rock!

Another often overlooked game similar in some ways to DAO is Guild Wars Nightfall. Different genre entirely, online only, no offline mode; and yet it is similar. Yes, it can be single player for all practical purposes. It is possible to solo (with your party of heroes and henchmen) the entire game and never say "boo" to anyone! Oh, and there is no monthly fee with GWN or other hidden charges. Ranger, Warrior, or Monk recommended for first character.

GWN has a full party of 8. For solo, this consists of Player, 3 heroes, and four henchpersons. You wind up with a large number of heroes to select from, and there is a selection of hench as well. Heroes are fully configurable. Their armor automatically levels up, but you can add runes and inscriptions to the armor. And give them weapons and shields and so forth. You can obtain new skills for them in various ways. Setting their "tactics" merely consists of putting skills in their bars. The GW heroes and hench know their business. You can micromanage their skill usage, but usually you do not have to. So the three heroes are like the three party members in DAO, only better IMHO.

GW is instanced, but the explorable and mission areas are huge and you can wander about exploring and fighting. Wonderful graphics. Lot of combat in GW, lots. GWN has a very beautiful starting island, quite large starting island! When you get to level 18 you can head for the mainland. The story is conveyed through written info in the numerous quests and in cutscenes that are non-interactive, but well done. When you have finished Nightfall, you have two other chapters, Prophecies and Factions waiting. Plus, the capstone expansion of the series, Eye of the North, itself fairly large. Once you have finished a chapter, you can play on hard mode, and the entire game is replayable: even the noob starting areas where the monsters are suddenly not nearly so nice and cuddly anymore!

And coming soon (early 2011 probably) is Guild Wars 2! From the little that is known, it is going to be a very great game indeed.

GW is a very geek game. Improper selection of skills will cause you to be devoured! The worst mistake I have seen is players not finishing Nightfall and getting to Eye of the North as soon as possible ... where ... they get smashed like bugs ... and then rage quit, spreading the word that the game is "boring." GWN is harder than WoW in many ways and a bit tougher than DAO. You need brains, persistence, grit, and determination to solo the game with heroes and hench. The demons may seem horrible opponents, but they are only old pie compared to the dinosaurs, who really act like dinosaurs! Omigawd!

And yes, if you want to be rich rich rich, you will have to learn to run a "farming build." You will not have the skills to do that until you are pretty far through the game. Farming itself is a sub game, lot of fun.

There is no romance except for scripted romance, and your heroes and the hench do not say much. But you get to know them. I am very fond of some of my heroes and some of the hench. They are old friends. So, to me it is a RPG; your mileage may vary.

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Drakensang, Gothic 3, Two Worlds.

All solid single player rpgs, they just didn't get that popular in the mainstream.
Make sure ya dl the updates and patches and such.

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AsheraII wrote...

Hmmmmm, anyone remember that game from the eighties where you had to conquer old England through jousting tournaments and laying siege to castles? It was about Normans vs Saxons if I remember right, had some love scene, and at some point you got to meet up with some Sir Robin in Sherwood Forest as well if I remember correctly.


Defender of the Crown it was called, yeah. Scary days of olde... :P

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@DarvinJames:



MMORPGs are in most cases extremely far off from being true RPGs. They have the character development as a key feature, but apart from some storyline and some quests especially the interaction with other players breaks the immersion often enough. I still consider those as a kind of RPG, but it is an entirely different category of game compared to SP RPGs.



I also enjoyed WoW, but apart from the huge time-sink it gets a bit dull with more or less similar and repetitive quest-goals. In fact I played WoW mostly, because many friends liked it, too. There it was more about enjoying the game together as a group. At the same time playing style in WoW was less about story, but more about: "Let's make a raid in this dungeon to try to scoop up this super item." Item collecting at its best. Also MMORPGs are more about cooperative tactical battles than about moral questions. So, while fun they are much different.

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The original Neverwinter Nights is one of my all time favourites. NWN2 really fell short of my expectations and i could never get into the Mask of the Betrayer. The bug's in the combat system drove me to the brink of insanity. The amount of times i would queue up commands only to see them disappear and my companions not do them, it was game breaking.



Two games i've bought in the past to keep me interested, while i waited for another title, are Jade Empire and Mass Effect.



Jade Empire I enjoyed immensely. Its great story and twists kept me hooked all the way through. I found the combat mechanics to be rather simplistic and i would have liked something with a bit more profoundness and ultimately more challenging. However it has everything you can expect from a great BW game and you won't be disappointed.



Mass Effect is a title i bought to fill the gap up untill the release of the new Prince of Persia game. However it drew me in like no other game ever has and i literally could not stop playing it. It wasn't long before i could comfortably name it as my number one game of all time. It simply is pure genius. For a single player experience imo it cannot be matched. Turned out PoP sucked and i just went back to my third play through of ME.

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Morrowind and Oblivion, hands down. But also other games from Bioware: The Witcher, Mass Effect, Neverwinter Nights etc

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Zenon wrote...

[You mean "Defender of the Crown", which I played on my Amiga 500 back then. In fact, while having been some fun, it actually wasn't a great game.


I, too, had an Amiga 500.  I remember playing Defender of the Crown, all the while wishing it was a tad better.

On the Amiga, I also played which I thought was a great RPG series: The Bard's Tale.  Hey, back then, being isolated in GTMO, I thought The Bard's Tale was great.  It would be horrribly dated now, since it was on floppy disks, but I burned a lot of midnight oil playing that static game.  I was obsessed with it.

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In today's gaming world, to address the OP, I would definitely give Fallout 3 a try.  It's a different breed, a blend of FPS and RPG styles.  I purchased the new GOTY package with all the official DLC for an excellent price.  To me, Fallout 3 is a challenging game with all sorts of interesting mods available as well as the DLC.  Combat can be hard at times and you must adjust your strategies if you get your butt handed to you, and then you must try the same combat different ways until you succeed (not unlike DA:O).  This game, too, is very gory, but the effects can be turned off if you prefer.  I highly recommend Fallout 3 to anyone.

I realize the OP doesn't cater to FPS games very much, but not all are based mainly on modern warfare, per se.  The scariest game I've ever played is Doom 3.  It had me coming out of my chair a few times.  There's also an expansion for Doom 3.  You're based on Mars, fighting mutants, and not all are zombies.  This game will get your heart pumping.  You must also interact with the dynamic environment at times with some pretty nifty objectives.  The moving machinery, strobed lights, and clanging, ghostly sounds will take your breath away the first time you encounter them.  And did I mention moving through a vast blacked out level with only a flashlight to find your way?  Spooky!!  Doom 3 is definitely on my recommended list for a devilishly spooky good time.

As for other RPGs: There is nothing I've played that even comes close to DA:O, except Mass Effect.  But I prefer the fantasy aspect more, and DA:O solidly delivers in this department.  I realize others have played some games I haven't, and I'm not dismissing their recommendations by any means.

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