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[Aetika]

sp33dd34m0n wrote...

Aetika wrote...

sp33dd34m0n wrote...

400K full extraction is BullCrap and cant be right. I guess the Bioware guys in this topic are just trolling us. Think of it: Every reaper run has 40-50 Banshees. That would be 16-20 Million Banshees. We failed on 3 Million Banshees.... Just lol if u really believe that we have to get 400 full extractions. If it would be true than it would be even worse.... especially after so many members got banned.... Thats not gonna happen.

40 - 50 Banshees...on new Space Magic difficulty.

40-50 Banshees is correct for a gold run if ur speedrunning or if ur killing the banshees right away. Could be around 30 for normal runs. Average is between that. You have 10 waves and an average of 4-5 Banshees per wave. If your speedrunning you just rocket them and there will be 6-8 Banshees at wave 4,5,7,8 &9 (2-6 at wave 3,10 &11 depends on the squad) Something like that. A few players prefer to leave them alive and kill them at the end, so its less for them but sill an average of 2 per wave (20 in total). Lets say there are just 3 banshees per wave (average) - it would still be 12 Million Banshees for 400K extractions. Just count the Banshees in your runs and you will see that the total numbers of them in a run is more than you thought.

Well, my bad. I didn´t factore the increase through rocketing them. I was thinking more about averagely average game. I guess you might get to that number if you are actively trying.   

Modifié par Aetika, 15 juillet 2012 - 10:39 .

[Kill Mechanism]

Played 13 matched with my cousin and randoms. 10 full extractions on Silver. 2 failures from Ms Magnet Hands and one on FB Jade that didn't count even though we were all in the ring.

[sp33dd34m0n]

Aetika wrote...

sp33dd34m0n wrote...

Aetika wrote...

sp33dd34m0n wrote...

400K full extraction is BullCrap and cant be right. I guess the Bioware guys in this topic are just trolling us. Think of it: Every reaper run has 40-50 Banshees. That would be 16-20 Million Banshees. We failed on 3 Million Banshees.... Just lol if u really believe that we have to get 400 full extractions. If it would be true than it would be even worse.... especially after so many members got banned.... Thats not gonna happen.

40 - 50 Banshees...on new Space Magic difficulty.

40-50 Banshees is correct for a gold run if ur speedrunning or if ur killing the banshees right away. Could be around 30 for normal runs. Average is between that. You have 10 waves and an average of 4-5 Banshees per wave. If your speedrunning you just rocket them and there will be 6-8 Banshees at wave 4,5,7,8 &9 (2-6 at wave 3,10 &11 depends on the squad) Something like that. A few players prefer to leave them alive and kill them at the end, so its less for them but sill an average of 2 per wave (20 in total). Lets say there are just 3 banshees per wave (average) - it would still be 12 Million Banshees for 400K extractions. Just count the Banshees in your runs and you will see that the total numbers of them in a run is more than you thought.

Well, my bad. I didn´t factore the increase through rocketing them. I was thinking more about averagely average game. I guess you might get to that number if you are actively trying.   

I just calculated really quick from my own point of view. The players who have 40+ Banshees in a run could be a minority, okay. But I doubt that the numbers of Banshees per run are below 20 for most players. And thats what I was trying to point out. Even with 20 per run it would be 8 Million Banshees IF successfully full extracted! The partial extractions dont count. So we are talking about much more than 10M Banshees for this Operation to be a success. And thats like a joke after we failed on 3M. So from now we actually know for sure that fail or success is just something they decide - Nothing based on real numbers. Knowing this now for sure destroys the fun or at least I wont ever care about Allied goals.

Prolly the same creative guys who were responsible for the N7 Matchmaking-sytsem came up with another great idea....

Modifié par sp33dd34m0n, 15 juillet 2012 - 10:52 .

[Rifneno]

Rannoch Reaper, what do you think of this crap?

Reaper: IT IS NOT A GOAL YOU CAN COMPLETE.

Thanks, Rannoch Reaper.

Bleachrude wrote...

Er...this isn't exactly a tough goal....

Full extraction on Bronze counts and most people here can solo it easily....The thing about this community event is that it requires the better players to forego the credits you get for playing the tougher matches and play the easier matches and get less credits...

So...how much of a community player are you?

Will the lure of "more credits" tempt you to play gold even though you're likely to be more successful on bronze?

Are you ****ing kidding? We're right around the corner from a DLC, which means credits are at the highest priority they can be, and you think it's just a matter of we should say screw what we want and instead spend hour after hour grinding bronze so that MAYBE we can meet the goal? You should look up the difference between "game" and "work" because you clearly don't understand the distinction.

[Count Viceroy]

I too, have done my part. Done several gold extractions and have been lulzing around bronze a few as well. I almost felt bad going through glacier with a novaguard stealing all the kills.

Pretty sure we're supposed to fail this one though. Seems like way too high a number.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 15 juillet 2012 - 11:12 .

[wolfsite]

Count Viceroy wrote...

I too, have done my part. Done several gold extractions and have been lulzing around bronze a few as well. I almost felt bad going through glacier with a novaguard stealing all the kills.

Pretty sure we're supposed to fail this one though. Seems like way too high a number.

I'm kinda hoping for a fail.  The last fail we had we got a pretty interesting twist on the challenge after it which really changed things up.

[sy7ar]

Damn that's hard, out of 10 games I think I got about 3 or 4 full extractions. I apologize in advance if we fail.

[AwesomeBabyLion]

Add 40 extractions this weekend.. What incredible things you can do when you just do instead of whine..

Modifié par titusthelegendaryfox, 15 juillet 2012 - 02:48 .

[Rifneno]

titusthelegendaryfox wrote...

At 40 extractions this weekend.. What incredible things you can do when you just do instead of whine..

Don't twist your arm patting yourself on the back there chief.  Your 0.01% of the goal isn't impressive enough to earn you that medal you so desperately want.  Oh, only 0.01% if you were soloing.  If you were actually in teams, that's 0.0025%.  *golf clap*  You sure made a difference while the rest of us were busy understanding that "community goal" should be "community goal" not "hardcore players" goal.

[kyles3]

I played a few Silvers and a lot of Gold and only managed one full extraction (on Gold, oddly enough). Sorry, community. Someone always gets grabbed on wave 11.

This event has really served to highlight just how obnoxious the Banshee's magnet hands are.

[ElefantesPintadas]

wolfsite wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

I too, have done my part. Done several gold extractions and have been lulzing around bronze a few as well. I almost felt bad going through glacier with a novaguard stealing all the kills.

Pretty sure we're supposed to fail this one though. Seems like way too high a number.

I'm kinda hoping for a fail.  The last fail we had we got a pretty interesting twist on the challenge after it which really changed things up.

I've done my part by contributing to several full extracts, but yes, I admit that I am hoping for a fail as well.  I was one of the few people who really enjoyed the random banshees, and I don't want an extra medi-gel. I'd actually like to carry less, but I suppose I could just control my use of equipment better.

Modifié par ElefantesPintadas, 15 juillet 2012 - 01:05 .

[ElefantesPintadas]

kyles3 wrote...

I played a few Silvers and a lot of Gold and only managed one full extraction (on Gold, oddly enough). Sorry, community. Someone always gets grabbed on wave 11.

This event has really served to highlight just how obnoxious the Banshee's magnet hands are.

They didn't used to be this bad. Behind the scenes buffs, I tell you.

[ElefantesPintadas]

I'm sure this is common knowledge, but if a squad of 4 gets a full extract then does that count as 1 extraction or x4 for each person?

[UkGouki]

done 20 full extractions on bronze only 5 on gold and only 5 on silver. got screwed over a few times on gold aswell magnet grabbed with 6 seconds left to extraction....later today and tonight will be doing bronze in hopes for full extrations

[planeswalker85]

Already done about 30 ish games on gold against reapers, only 21 full extracts. Ravagers actually took down about 6 people in the last 5 seconds not banshees of all things...

[Vault Boy X360]

sp33dd34m0n wrote...

Aetika wrote...

sp33dd34m0n wrote...

Aetika wrote...

sp33dd34m0n wrote...

400K full extraction is BullCrap and cant be right. I guess the Bioware guys in this topic are just trolling us. Think of it: Every reaper run has 40-50 Banshees. That would be 16-20 Million Banshees. We failed on 3 Million Banshees.... Just lol if u really believe that we have to get 400 full extractions. If it would be true than it would be even worse.... especially after so many members got banned.... Thats not gonna happen.

40 - 50 Banshees...on new Space Magic difficulty.

40-50 Banshees is correct for a gold run if ur speedrunning or if ur killing the banshees right away. Could be around 30 for normal runs. Average is between that. You have 10 waves and an average of 4-5 Banshees per wave. If your speedrunning you just rocket them and there will be 6-8 Banshees at wave 4,5,7,8 &9 (2-6 at wave 3,10 &11 depends on the squad) Something like that. A few players prefer to leave them alive and kill them at the end, so its less for them but sill an average of 2 per wave (20 in total). Lets say there are just 3 banshees per wave (average) - it would still be 12 Million Banshees for 400K extractions. Just count the Banshees in your runs and you will see that the total numbers of them in a run is more than you thought.

Well, my bad. I didn´t factore the increase through rocketing them. I was thinking more about averagely average game. I guess you might get to that number if you are actively trying.   

I just calculated really quick from my own point of view. The players who have 40+ Banshees in a run could be a minority, okay. But I doubt that the numbers of Banshees per run are below 20 for most players. And thats what I was trying to point out. Even with 20 per run it would be 8 Million Banshees IF successfully full extracted! The partial extractions dont count. So we are talking about much more than 10M Banshees for this Operation to be a success. And thats like a joke after we failed on 3M. So from now we actually know for sure that fail or success is just something they decide - Nothing based on real numbers. Knowing this now for sure destroys the fun or at least I wont ever care about Allied goals.

Prolly the same creative guys who were responsible for the N7 Matchmaking-sytsem came up with another great idea....

Well, Bronze Reaper matches have less than five banshees, so let's say three banshees per bronze match to be an average. 

3 x 400,000 = 1,200,000

That seems a lot simpler, and considering more people probably play bronze than gold, this is most likely why we did not pass the only community objective we failed (3,000,000 banshees). However, we are also factoring in full extraction so the odds are that if we pass this objective it will be by the skin of our teeth. Silver players tend to be to stupid to get full extractions and gold players tend to get overwhelmed making for a death at the last second or a wipe (though gold still gets more full extractions). Now this is speaking from personal experience, so I know we can barely even count those matches, so we HAVE to rely on bronze to get the community objective. Unless there are many more people actually trying to get this objective than that were doing it previously I doubt we will reach that mark. 

[Constant Motion]

Just had about six extractions in a row! Hosting on Silver. Played... dear me, Drell Adept, Asari Adept, Salarian Engineer, Turian Sentinel twice, Batarian Soldier twice, so that must be at least seven. In the last game, I was one of two Batarian Soldiers, alongside a Krogan Sentinel and a Quarian Infiltrator. Great games, lots of very good players - a few people left between matches, but they were replaced by equally good players.

The flipside of this event, is I reckon a lot of Gold players are coming down to Silver. Lots of mid-high N7 rankings, lots of very good players - I've never had that many issues in random games, but I went the last two games as the Batarian Soldier without dying, due in no small part to some very strong allies. Excellent time.

Can't remember the last time I played against a geth, though. That'll be weird on Monday.

I reckon the best strategy for maximum reaper extractions is, if you're going for the goal, to host as often as possible. If you're a random, then that's only a slot that someone else would've picked up anyway. If you host, you might catch other people who might not have been aware there was an event on - people who might've hit "unknown" and ended up against Cerberus in any other game.

Modifié par Constant Motion, 15 juillet 2012 - 01:47 .

[DragonRacer]

Ended up doing a buch of bronze reaper full extractions yesterday... had to do it with private friends-only rooms because the bronze PUGs are making my blood pressure skyrocket. If I have to get on the mic and yell at one more idiot running around on the other side of the map while the rest of us stand in the extraction zone... only to have him either ignore or troll me and give us partial extraction and a wasted 10-15 minutes for a lousy 15,000 credits... I will pop a blood vessel in my eye, I swear.

What really has me irritated is NOT KNOWING WHEN THE EVENT ENDS. Seriously, Bioware! The blog says a Monday morning end time, and Chris's forum operation thread says it's THIS MORNING. As burned out as I'm feeling, I was planning on quitting at the 10am PST time Chris's thread says... but if it really does end when the blog post says it does, I would troop through and play more this afternoon.

WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE CLARIFY AN ENDING TIME? THAT'S KIND OF A BIG DEAL AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR ANY OPERATION.

Modifié par DragonRacer, 15 juillet 2012 - 02:29 .

[AlistairsGirl]

CoddyXD wrote...

Did a silver with pugs. One got grabbed 15secs into wave 11

Well that 20mins wasted.....

Gah, that happened in my game too!  On silver too   Which map were you on?  One of the guys on my team (pug) was grabbed at the beginning of wave 11... I facepalmed.

As you said, 20 minutes wasted.

[swoopz80]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet or not but we on ps3 don't even get notification about events yet so unless they visit bsn how is anyone going to even know?

[AwesomeBabyLion]

Rifneno wrote...

titusthelegendaryfox wrote...

At 40 extractions this weekend.. What incredible things you can do when you just do instead of whine..

Don't twist your arm patting yourself on the back there chief.  Your 0.01% of the goal isn't impressive enough to earn you that medal you so desperately want.  Oh, only 0.01% if you were soloing.  If you were actually in teams, that's 0.0025%.  *golf clap*  You sure made a difference while the rest of us were busy understanding that "community goal" should be "community goal" not "hardcore players" goal.

Add five more. And yes, solo. I contribute, what do you do?

Why do things have to be conspiracy this, conspiracy that. Why not just play the game, have fun and if you add to the goal, then great on you. What's with all this whining and moaning and negativity? Play the game if its fun for you. If not, don't. Don't come to the forums just to say how impossible it is, when the only reason its impossible is because you think it is. I'm not saying you have to contribute, that you have to atleast do these many extractions. I'm saying do it if you want, or don't do it and don't moan about it and spread your negativity.

[Ignisami]

I think I'm at 40 extractions personally, stopped counting after 15

Could be way more though, I've practically not slept since the op started on Friday evening (Dutchie here), been doing reapers (twice on gold full extract, to ensure Comm pack, rest Bronze pug full extracts) ever since .

Bronze games tend to run 13-15 minutes, Silver takes 17-20 (keep in mind, I'm pugging on ps3, and 90% of people I meet, including myself, have no mic), Gold either wipes on wave 6-8 or full extracts.

Going back to shooting up more Reapers after I've stuffed dinner in my mouth

[ka243]

This seems like a very hard goal..., also tir was totally unclear that full extraction was required from the original operation post. As a result i believe many players did not understand that the goal was full extraction and we may fail because of that . Also can someone please tell us how we are doing so far?

[PreGy]

titusthelegendaryfox wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

titusthelegendaryfox wrote...

At 40 extractions this weekend.. What incredible things you can do when you just do instead of whine..

Don't twist your arm patting yourself on the back there chief.  Your 0.01% of the goal isn't impressive enough to earn you that medal you so desperately want.  Oh, only 0.01% if you were soloing.  If you were actually in teams, that's 0.0025%.  *golf clap*  You sure made a difference while the rest of us were busy understanding that "community goal" should be "community goal" not "hardcore players" goal.

Add five more. And yes, solo. I contribute, what do you do?

Why do things have to be conspiracy this, conspiracy that. Why not just play the game, have fun and if you add to the goal, then great on you. What's with all this whining and moaning and negativity? Play the game if its fun for you. If not, don't. Don't come to the forums just to say how impossible it is, when the only reason its impossible is because you think it is. I'm not saying you have to contribute, that you have to atleast do these many extractions. I'm saying do it if you want, or don't do it and don't moan about it and spread your negativity.

Just FYI, you can post while playing the game. Your argument is invalid.

And nothing you said change the fact that 400K full extraction are, comparing with other events, and particulary with the Banshee one (that failed, even with a lot of people like me firing more than 100 missiles over the weekend), a lot, and many people don't know full extraction is needed because they didn't state that where they had to, so maybe "90%" of people playing (the ones who don't read forums) think they contribute with partial extraction, and they are not.

So my question is,  what's your problem with people stating that this event seems doom to failure? Cannot people talk and speak their minds?

[ka243]

Last few ice run some guy always gets banshee grabbed round 11 preventing a full extract