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Operation BROADSIDE puts our reinforcements to work by coordinating large-scale attacks against the Reapers on multiple fronts. The objectives vary from planet to planet and theater to theater, but the common goal is to develop a sustainable fighting method with a minimal loss of life.

Squad Goal: Extract at least one squad member against Reapers on Gold difficulty
Allied Goal: Extract 400,000 squads against Reapers on ANY difficulty
Special Circumstance: None

Squad Goal Success: All squad members awarded a Commendation Pack
Allied Goal Success: All players awarded a Victory Pack. Medi-gel cap increases from 5 units to 6.

Operation: Broadside begins at 10am PST on Friday July 13and ends at 10am PST on Sunday July 15.

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Well that's four hours... well not exactly wasted (some of it was fun on PUG's), but certainly working towards the wrong goal.

The squad goal was hard enough on PUG Gold. I'm no more than a mediocre player on gold, but time and again I found myself topping the score board and having to solo wave's (something is really going wrong if I'm the best player on the team). Finally achieved extraction though and moved on to grinding silver.

I must have made at least a dozen extractions on Silver, but I couldn't say how many of those were full extractions. Since I thought we could get any kind of extraction, I haven't been making any special effort to get full extraction. If someone goes down outside the extraction zone, or I get taken out in the last few seconds, I haven't been blowing gear unless there was the possibility of a total wipe. If I'd known a full extraction was needed, I'd have made far more effort and just pumped credits into the equipment packs.

These weekend events are really good fun, but I do wish BioWare were more concise with the mission parameters sometimes.

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ntrisley wrote...

Star fury wrote...

Bryan Johnson wrote...

Yes it is a lofty goal, but the prize is one that you wont see often at all


Care to warn us about special circumstances before event and not during second day of it? It's a non-pleasant surprise and I knew about it only now.

There are no special circumstances. Whenever there are Special Circumstances, it always says so on the splash screen and the announcement.

I'm not sure how the Community Goal is so contentious this time around.

"Extract 400,000 squads against Reapers on any difficulty" seems pretty definitive. If it were said to be "Performing 400,000 Extractions against Reapers on any difficulty", I could understand the problem.


No, it's quite ambiguous the way it is. Adding the word "full" before the word "squads" would have been simple and would have prevented all the confusion.

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Sigh. Another game where my team gets a partial extraction. One guy gets grabbed on wave 11 every time.

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Well, darn.

Before I heard this I thought we had a slim chance in succeeding this one. Now that it's full extractions? Nope, no chance we're making this one.

We're meant to fail this one guys. The flavor text will read something like, "we failed this operation, which shows we need the N7 reinforcements from Earth just that much more."

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Well it does say were trying to lower the casualties which means that full extractions make total sense but the defeatest attitude is amazing. HURR DURR WE CANT DO EEET.

It wouldn't be a challenge weekend if we could do it EASILY! Plus the reward is worth the effort since it will be community wide.

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ntrisley wrote...

There are no special circumstances. Whenever there are Special Circumstances, it always says so on the splash screen and the announcement.

I'm not sure how the Community Goal is so contentious this time around.

"Extract 400,000 squads against Reapers on any difficulty" seems pretty definitive. If it were said to be "Performing 400,000 Extractions against Reapers on any difficulty", I could understand the problem.


We wouldn't need a thread clarifying it if it was clear already. If they had simply said "full extractions" in the ****ing text, we'd at least have known about it without them making multiple forum posts.

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After this news, I think we are going to fail. I'm not usually pesimistic about objectives, and I certainly thought it was possible yesterday, but now...

Yeah, I'll probably play some more bronze/reaper. But even a low difficulty level doesn't guarantee a full extraction. What am I supposed to do, order the people on the mic to stay alive?

And not to mention the glitched LZ in firebase Jade. Good thing all my team was standing when we got extracted.

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Damn well ill do some silvers games to get some numbers in.

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Banshee stabs, jarheads trying to amass body counts... yeah, about half of the matches I've been in haven't counted now.

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I don't know what me3 multiplayer population is but i would be VERY surprised if we can do this objective considering most ppl don't know that partial extraction's don't count. Even without full extraction it would have been challenging, will have to wait till tuesday to know for sure i guess.

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SilentRich wrote...

Well it does say were trying to lower the casualties which means that full extractions make total sense but the defeatest attitude is amazing. HURR DURR WE CANT DO EEET.

It wouldn't be a challenge weekend if we could do it EASILY! Plus the reward is worth the effort since it will be community wide.


The problem is that the overwhelming majority of players aren't realistically going to know that it's full extractions rather than just extraction. A large number of players working towards the allied objective aren't actually going to be contributing as much as they think. It also means that one ****ty player in any given match can make that 10-20 minutes mean nothing at all for this objective.

Worse than that is this, though; so far, I've done about 15 full extractions. Since each of these was with a four person team, though, it's basically like 4 separate people, individually, did 4 full extractions. When you think about how this applied to the 400k goal, that means that in squads of 4, 1.6 million people need to do a full extraction at least once against Reapers.

Not saying I'm not going to keep trying, but in this situation, some sense of defeatism is just being realistic.

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Ya... would be shocked if we met this goal. Only had time for a few games so far and I've even dropped down to do silver for the easy full extract, or so I thought. Far to many... "skill challenged" players, someone always gets grabbed on wave 11 without fail. Infuriating that people have such little situational awareness.

Kind of upsetting that it's far more efficient for decent players to just solo bronze to bang out full extracts rather than play coop because out of 4 people, you know one more often than not will be a derp.

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Chevyboy88 wrote...

Ya... would be shocked if we met this goal. Only had time for a few games so far and I've even dropped down to do silver for the easy full extract, or so I thought. Far to many... "skill challenged" players, someone always gets grabbed on wave 11 without fail. Infuriating that people have such little situational awareness.

Kind of upsetting that it's far more efficient for decent players to just solo bronze to bang out full extracts rather than play coop because out of 4 people, you know one more often than not will be a derp.


Me and a mate of mine just two man silver.

Added 12 extractions, willl add more later today and tomorrow.

Love from Norway

Modifié par titusthelegendaryfox, 14 juillet 2012 - 06:00 .


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Uh...it's not "extra time" since it ends at 10 am PST tomorrow. That's almost a whole day lost for North America and another evening gone for Europe. It's 48 hours no matter how you shift it.

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xCreamyy wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Meh. The reward for the community goal usually sucks, anyway. If they put in another Commendation pack in there, then I'd care.

You don't think +1 maximum Medigel capacity is worth contributing a few full extractions?

With Platinum just around the corner, I'll take any boosts I can get. I'm sure there are people here who feel the same.

Since when do PUG's use medigel anyway?

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Chevyboy88 wrote...

Ya... would be shocked if we met this goal. Only had time for a few games so far and I've even dropped down to do silver for the easy full extract, or so I thought. Far to many... "skill challenged" players, someone always gets grabbed on wave 11 without fail. Infuriating that people have such little situational awareness.

Kind of upsetting that it's far more efficient for decent players to just solo bronze to bang out full extracts rather than play coop because out of 4 people, you know one more often than not will be a derp.


You can also play bronze with a group. I can carry bronze pretty easily, and Banshees only spawn once one wave 11, so all you need to do is kill Brutes before they get too close to anyone and hope to hell that they bother to extract. Wouldn't try it on silver with randoms, though, because yeah... at least one is usually an idiot.

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This is one weekend event that I am sad to miss.
Would've played a lot of Silver. :)

But, I am away, I borrowed my sisters laptop and at least got 1 full extration on gold. :)

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Seneva wrote...

xCreamyy wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Meh. The reward for the community goal usually sucks, anyway. If they put in another Commendation pack in there, then I'd care.

You don't think +1 maximum Medigel capacity is worth contributing a few full extractions?

With Platinum just around the corner, I'll take any boosts I can get. I'm sure there are people here who feel the same.

Since when do PUG's use medigel anyway?


Don't give a **** what THEY do. I use medigel. I expect I'll want to have more of it in Platinum. Plenty of people don't bother, but enough do that this is worth it.

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Zero132132 wrote...

ntrisley wrote...

There are no special circumstances. Whenever there are Special Circumstances, it always says so on the splash screen and the announcement.

I'm not sure how the Community Goal is so contentious this time around.

"Extract 400,000 squads against Reapers on any difficulty" seems pretty definitive. If it were said to be "Performing 400,000 Extractions against Reapers on any difficulty", I could understand the problem.


We wouldn't need a thread clarifying it if it was clear already. If they had simply said "full extractions" in the ****ing text, we'd at least have known about it without them making multiple forum posts.

Yeah, but it would not change the fact that the people who are supposedly the problem(the PUGs who do not read the forums and need clarification) would still be a problem because they don't read the splash screens either.

It's as simple as saying "Guys. If you want a +1 Medi-Gel Capacity, we've got to do a full Extraction. Save a few rockets for the end and we'll be good.".

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Bioware needs to stop playing word games when they put the challenges up. I was telling randoms in my lobby that we needed a full for the allied goal and they didn't believe me. Why should they? 99% of the players don't come here and they have no way of knowing, cuz the splash screen did not say a full was needed for Allied. Almost 24 hrs in and the vast majority of players thinks you only need a partial extraction for both goals. I stated it in another thread...I'll be shocked if we succeed. People would definitely be more cautious if they knew for a fact that we needed a Full.

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Oh well. Got a couple yesterday. Probably won't be on today.

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Mind Chimera wrote...

Instead of getting on the forums and posting how we can't win this, people should log in and kill some Reapers. ;) (Assuming you're not posting from work or something.) 


I did 5 successful Reaper Gold runs yesturday, don't call me lazy just because I'm a doomsayer xD

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Zero132132 wrote...

Chevyboy88 wrote...

Ya... would be shocked if we met this goal. Only had time for a few games so far and I've even dropped down to do silver for the easy full extract, or so I thought. Far to many... "skill challenged" players, someone always gets grabbed on wave 11 without fail. Infuriating that people have such little situational awareness.

Kind of upsetting that it's far more efficient for decent players to just solo bronze to bang out full extracts rather than play coop because out of 4 people, you know one more often than not will be a derp.


You can also play bronze with a group. I can carry bronze pretty easily, and Banshees only spawn once one wave 11, so all you need to do is kill Brutes before they get too close to anyone and hope to hell that they bother to extract. Wouldn't try it on silver with randoms, though, because yeah... at least one is usually an idiot.


True but I've been in my fair share of even bronze games where someone decides to go rambo over that last few husk and refuses to extract. It's not a matter of being able to do it, it's mostly a matter of all it takes is 1 derp to ruin a game for the extract.

Soloing gold or silver takes a bit of time (fastest gold is something like 18 minutes) but I've just been hammering through bronzes every 8 minutes.

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ntrisley wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

ntrisley wrote...

There are no special circumstances. Whenever there are Special Circumstances, it always says so on the splash screen and the announcement.

I'm not sure how the Community Goal is so contentious this time around.

"Extract 400,000 squads against Reapers on any difficulty" seems pretty definitive. If it were said to be "Performing 400,000 Extractions against Reapers on any difficulty", I could understand the problem.


We wouldn't need a thread clarifying it if it was clear already. If they had simply said "full extractions" in the ****ing text, we'd at least have known about it without them making multiple forum posts.

Yeah, but it would not change the fact that the people who are supposedly the problem(the PUGs who do not read the forums and need clarification) would still be a problem because they don't read the splash screens either.

It's as simple as saying "Guys. If you want a +1 Medi-Gel Capacity, we've got to do a full Extraction. Save a few rockets for the end and we'll be good.".


I know a few people who play for the weekend objectives (one group even spent all of that one weekend doing Reaper/Gold so they could kill Banshees) that were trying to contribute to this allied goal, and they had no idea it was full extractions either. They read the splash screen, may have even checked over the anouncement, but a lot of decent players aren't going to comb through a ****ton of forum posts to find this out. A lot of people who DO read the forums didn't know this until this morning or late last night.