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chemiclord wrote...

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You got him alright, he has been on a lot of threads today calling everyone a whiner etc .........what a total


The only thing I've got is your delicious, bitter tears.  Keep crying.  They sustain me.


How very masochistic.

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I had a feeling that the questions were smoke-screened if not outright planted.

I was wondering where the obligatory "Tali's face?" question was... I guess Bioware wasn't prepared to justify a lazy Photoshop edit on a stock image pulled from the interwebs.

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the bridges are occupied I see 

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

chemiclord  Troll wrote...

detbasketball13 wrote...

You got him alright, he has been on a lot of threads today calling everyone a whiner etc .........what a total


The only thing I've got is your delicious, bitter tears.  Keep crying.  They sustain me.


How very masochistic.


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Jade8aby88 wrote...

How very masochistic.


What can I say... listening to the whining amuses me.  Listening to them lash out with kneejerk emotional reactions completely void of any logical thought process is funny.  It's like watching monkeys flinging their **** at each other.

We get it.  You're pissed off.  We know.  The fans here have said so roughly ten million times.  If you don't think Bioware is listening to you... why do you think screaming ten million more times will change that?

Simply put... there comes a point where you might as well be screaming at a brick wall.  At that point, the best recourse is to walk away and let your silence speak for you.  They heard your complaints... and obviously didn't agree with you.  They apparently thought your complaints were without merit.  So why keep trying?

WALK AWAY.  Take your wallet with you.  If you're the majority you think you are... Bioware will learn its lesson very quickly.  When I say "walk away", that is NOT an attempt at dismissal.  That is honest advice if you want to affect change.  THAT is how you make your displeasure known when words clearly are not working.  At the end of the day, Bioware is a business, and without your money, they lose.

Modifié par chemiclord, 15 juillet 2012 - 06:34 .


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chemiclord wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

How very masochistic.


What can I say... listening to the whining amuses me.  Listening to them lash out with kneejerk emotional reactions completely void of any logical thought process is funny.  It's like watching monkeys flinging their **** at each other.

We get it.  You're pissed off.  We know.  The fans here have said so roughly ten million times.  If you don't think Bioware is listening to you... why do you think screaming ten million more times will change that?

Simply put... there comes a point where you might as well be screaming at a brick wall.  At that point, the best recourse is to walk away and let your silence speak for you.  They heard your complaints... and obviously didn't agree with you.  They apparently thought your complaints were without merit.  So why keep trying?

WALK AWAY.  Take your wallet with you.  If you're the majority you think you are... Bioware will learn its lesson very quickly.  When I say "walk away", that is NOT an attempt at dismissal.  That is honest advice if you want to affect change.  THAT is how you make your displeasure known when words clearly are not working.  At the end of the day, Bioware is a business, and without your money, they lose.


The problem with that is if we give up and just go dark, then they wont learn anything and will continue down the path they are. Paragon-lost being a clear example of where they're heading.

The hatred of the endings, goes so far past "omgdepressing" that to isolate those select few and belittle them instead of tackling the issue as a whole, is pretty sad. In that regard, it's probably you that needs to get off the forums for a while. Because you obviously just can't ignore said posts, like other users do.

Also, if someone doesn't listen to me when I feel I have something important to say or to contribute to something I really love and care about, then I don't just give up and just walk off. That's abandonment. No, I will keep shouting at them until they blow their top and either finally listen or go "F-OFF!"

Until BioWare can even discuss their endings with people, there will always be outcry, and probably even after.

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Omega Torsk wrote...

I had a feeling that the questions were smoke-screened if not outright planted.

I was wondering where the obligatory "Tali's face?" question was... I guess Bioware wasn't prepared to justify a lazy Photoshop edit on a stock image pulled from the interwebs.


They already tried to justify it saying that Miranda, Sheploo and other character have real face models, they wanted the same treatment for Tali... Doesn't change the fact they used the exact same photo as a google.jpg.

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OK. So we didn't really didn't get the "big things" Gamble (I think) promised at the SDCC.  

Neither confirm or deny re: Leviathan DLC; neither confirm or deny re: Omega DLC

Just re-affirmation that Mass Efffect has become a MP franchise.

More ambiguity/vagueness.  Can someone please wake me when we hear something concrete?  I'm getting tired of waiting.



 

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

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So was anything of significance shown/announced at all?


We learned that the "Breathing scene" is Shep taking his last breath according to some from Bioware<_<


link? source? quote? Image IPB

They didn't even say that, they're just trying to keep it vague in that it could either be showing him survive or it could be his last breath.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

jules_vern18 wrote...

So was anything of significance shown/announced at all?


We learned that the "Breathing scene" is Shep taking his last breath according to some from Bioware<_<


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It's from the stream. One of the writers (I believe his name was Hepler) said something on the lines of 'He could just as well be gasping one more time before dying.'

There was another thread about it, but it got locked.

One employee implied Shepard was alive, another that he was dead. They're just trolling us at this point.

After all, Bioware:"Speculation, speculation for everyone!"

Apparantly they left it ambiguous on purpose, I guess they think it makes them clever writers or something. 

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 15 juillet 2012 - 07:02 .


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CmndrFisher wrote...

OK. So we didn't really didn't get the "big things" Gamble (I think) promised at the SDCC.  

Neither confirm or deny re: Leviathan DLC; neither confirm or deny re: Omega DLC

Just re-affirmation that Mass Efffect has become a MP franchise.

More ambiguity/vagueness.  Can someone please wake me when we hear something concrete?  I'm getting tired of waiting.



 

Ok, when has Gable EVER told the truth...?

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Imadogg wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

jules_vern18 wrote...

So was anything of significance shown/announced at all?



We learned that the "Breathing scene" is Shep taking his last breath according to some from Bioware<_<


link? source? quote? Image IPB

They didn't even say that, they're just trying to keep it vague in that it could either be showing him survive or it could be his last breath.


Its never a good thing when the writers don't even know how their game actually ended

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

CmndrFisher wrote...

OK. So we didn't really didn't get the "big things" Gamble (I think) promised at the SDCC.  

Neither confirm or deny re: Leviathan DLC; neither confirm or deny re: Omega DLC

Just re-affirmation that Mass Efffect has become a MP franchise.

More ambiguity/vagueness.  Can someone please wake me when we hear something concrete?  I'm getting tired of waiting.



 

Ok, when has Gable EVER told the truth...?


How was leviathan not confirmed? Underwater level is literally something in the EC files.

Also, Chris confirmed Omega earlier today during the last panel, or hinted at it by saying it'll be about the mass efffect invasion comic.

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Funny that people are still speculating on the breathe scene....he lives....as said in the strategy guide.

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

CmndrFisher wrote...

OK. So we didn't really didn't get the "big things" Gamble (I think) promised at the SDCC.  

Neither confirm or deny re: Leviathan DLC; neither confirm or deny re: Omega DLC

Just re-affirmation that Mass Efffect has become a MP franchise.

More ambiguity/vagueness.  Can someone please wake me when we hear something concrete?  I'm getting tired of waiting.



 

Ok, when has Gable EVER told the truth...?


~Ponders.............still pondering...........well, let me see, there was that time, no wait...still pondering................~

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The problem with that is if we give up and just go dark, then they wont learn anything and will continue down the path they are. Paragon-lost being a clear example of where they're heading.

The hatred of the endings, goes so far past "omgdepressing" that to isolate those select few and belittle them instead of tackling the issue as a whole, is pretty sad. In that regard, it's probably you that needs to get off the forums for a while. Because you obviously just can't ignore said posts, like other users do.

Also, if someone doesn't listen to me when I feel I have something important to say or to contribute to something I really love and care about, then I don't just give up and just walk off. That's abandonment. No, I will keep shouting at them until they blow their top and either finally listen or go "F-OFF!"

Until BioWare can even discuss their endings with people, there will always be outcry, and probably even after.


I would argue they already TOLD you to go "F-OFF!"  They produced the Extended Cut which did not change the endings in the slightest.  They added an ending that would most gently be called a slap in the face.  They demonstrated they actually WERE listening by shooting the Catalyst to precisely GIVE you that slap in the face ending.  They're outright TROLLING you at conventions.  If you're not getting the hint yet... I dunno.

They decided your complaints were without merit.  I dunno what else they have to do to convince you that they are never going to give you what you want.  Your complaints at this point fall entirely on deaf ears.  If they were going to "learn anything" from fan complaints, it would have happened by now.

This is path they have chosen to take, and you are not going to change their mind by continuing to waste your breath on these forums.  It's long past time to walk away.

Modifié par chemiclord, 15 juillet 2012 - 07:13 .


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Mcfly616 wrote...

Funny that people are still speculating on the breathe scene....he lives....as said in the strategy guide.




The Strategy guide also told us we could Win, but we can't. 

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yukon fire wrote...

Imadogg wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

jules_vern18 wrote...

So was anything of significance shown/announced at all?



We learned that the "Breathing scene" is Shep taking his last breath according to some from Bioware<_<


link? source? quote? Image IPB

They didn't even say that, they're just trying to keep it vague in that it could either be showing him survive or it could be his last breath.


Its never a good thing when the writers don't even know how their game actually ended

You know who else doesn't know how their own story ends? The writer of Twilight.

There you go. 

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chemiclord wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...
The problem with that is if we give up and just go dark, then they wont learn anything and will continue down the path they are. Paragon-lost being a clear example of where they're heading.

The hatred of the endings, goes so far past "omgdepressing" that to isolate those select few and belittle them instead of tackling the issue as a whole, is pretty sad. In that regard, it's probably you that needs to get off the forums for a while. Because you obviously just can't ignore said posts, like other users do.

Also, if someone doesn't listen to me when I feel I have something important to say or to contribute to something I really love and care about, then I don't just give up and just walk off. That's abandonment. No, I will keep shouting at them until they blow their top and either finally listen or go "F-OFF!"

Until BioWare can even discuss their endings with people, there will always be outcry, and probably even after.


I would argue they already TOLD you to go "F-OFF!"  They produced the Extended Cut which did not change the endings in the slightest.  They added an ending that would most gently be called a slap in the face.  They demonstrated they actually WERE listening by shooting the Catalyst to precisely GIVE you that slap in the face ending.  They're outright TROLLING you at conventions.  If you're not getting the hint yet... I dunno.

They decided your complaints were without merit.  I dunno what else they have to do to convince you that they are never going to give you what you want.  Your complaints at this point fall entirely on deaf ears.  If they were going to "learn anything" from fan complaints, it would have happened by now.

It's long past time to walk away.


The boldened part is true. I have always been confused how people enjoy the endings after EC.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

Funny that people are still speculating on the breathe scene....he lives....as said in the strategy guide.




Speculation for everyone, Mcfly, speculation for everyone...

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

The boldened part is true. I have always been confused how people enjoy the endings after EC.


Emotional Satisfaction, it's the all important part of a story, even more than logical satisfaction.

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

The boldened part is true. I have always been confused how people enjoy the endings after EC.


It's pretty simple really.

Because quite frankly, there was a sizeable group of people that didn't think a complete scrapping of the ending was necessary, and would be content with endings that made some semblance of sense.  For that group (I suppose I include myself in that number), it worked to varying degrees.

Bioware seemed to think that group was either the majority or close enough to it that a complete rewrite wasn't necessary.  Are they right?  Are they wrong?  I have no clue, nor do I particularly care.  It's what they chose to do, and they've made it painfully clear its what they are sticking with.

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I'm glad I paid all that money to BioWare so they can tell me to headcanon the ending.

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It actually was a bit upsetting not to hear of any single player DLC.. I don't play the multiplayer because I'm still scarred from the end in single player

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

Imadogg wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

jules_vern18 wrote...

So was anything of significance shown/announced at all?



We learned that the "Breathing scene" is Shep taking his last breath according to some from Bioware<_<


link? source? quote? Image IPB

They didn't even say that, they're just trying to keep it vague in that it could either be showing him survive or it could be his last breath.


Its never a good thing when the writers don't even know how their game actually ended

You know who else doesn't know how their own story ends? The writer of Twilight.

There you go. 


Whats a twilight?