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[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I think in reality we hate Control because of that death by electrocution part. When I saw that the first time it was "Uh, no thanks." Then Synthesis had that disintegrating swan dive, and I'm afraid of heights so that was out. So that left shooting a red tube and running like a jackass into an explosion, but maybe if one dives to the ground and takes cover right near the explosion.... Well it's not guaranteed to kill you. And while it does kill the geth and EDI, better them than me.

[sistersafetypin]

Bioware may think my Shep has a Messiah complex... But she doesn't. Edi and the Geth... Well war sucks

[MysticSpace]

bobobo878 wrote...

I've been reading a few of the polls, and it seems that Control is almost always the least popular ending choice even though it is obviously the best, why is that? I know that everyone wants the Reapers dead after all they've done, but with Shepard in control, couldn't Shepard just destroy fly them all into the sun without murderizing all of Shepard's synthetic friends?  In addition to that, Shepard could have them rebuild the Mass Relays and everything else they destroyed, as seen in EC, and recycle all their Element Zero before sending them to their graves.

Also, aside from the fate of the Synthetics, Control provides the best future for Shepard himself.  Instead of dying of thirst under a pile of rocks or simply ceasing to be like in Synthesis, Shepard gets to be a god.

So now that we know that Indoctrination theory is a hoax, is the reason noone picked it because they don't want to admit that the so called "Cerberus Fanboys" were right all along?  I know that a lot of people hate Cerberus Fans for being so open minded and pragmatic, but can't you just let go of your hate to save Edi and the Geth?

  Shepard doesn't replace the catalyst, an AI of her does and remember that VI shepard?  It got a glitch in it so how long until the same thing happens again?  For all we know the same thing happened to Harbinger.

[CroGamer002]

sistersafetypin wrote...

Bioware may think my Shep has a Messiah complex... But she doesn't. Edi and the Geth... Well war sucks

Doesn't intentional friendly fire get you court martial?

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

Mesina2 wrote...

sistersafetypin wrote...

Bioware may think my Shep has a Messiah complex... But she doesn't. Edi and the Geth... Well war sucks

Doesn't intentional friendly fire get you court martial?

If in order to kill the devil the only choice was to shoot through an angel I would take the shot.

[CroGamer002]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

sistersafetypin wrote...

Bioware may think my Shep has a Messiah complex... But she doesn't. Edi and the Geth... Well war sucks

Doesn't intentional friendly fire get you court martial?

If in order to kill the devil the only choice was to shoot through an angel I would take the shot.

Sorry, too Paragon for that.

[The Angry One]

Personally control disturbs me because it's basically Shepard using the Reapers to take over the galaxy.
The fact that a Paragon will be a benevolent dictator does not change the fact that they're a dictator.

Even if the Reapers never rebel from this control and everything is fine and dandy forever it still bothers me.
Granted, it's still better than synthesis.

[Applepie_Svk]

I would like to know what Shepbringer of our destiny means with The power is in control of your enemy... Well from explanation of Catalyst are both organics and synthetics the enemies of Reapers.

Synthetics are enemy because they are cause which is trying to destroy organic life...
Organics are enemy because they allow creat synthetics - problem which will destroy organic life...

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

Mesina2 wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

sistersafetypin wrote...

Bioware may think my Shep has a Messiah complex... But she doesn't. Edi and the Geth... Well war sucks

Doesn't intentional friendly fire get you court martial?

If in order to kill the devil the only choice was to shoot through an angel I would take the shot.

Sorry, too Paragon for that.

So you would doom the future to save the present.

Modifié par Harbinger of your Destiny, 16 juillet 2012 - 09:42 .

[CroGamer002]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

So you would doom the future to save the present.

If I have to resort in backstabbing my friend while I have alternatives, what makes me much different from what I'm trying to defeat?

[CroGamer002]

The Angry One wrote...

Personally control disturbs me because it's basically Shepard using the Reapers to take over the galaxy.
The fact that a Paragon will be a benevolent dictator does not change the fact that they're a dictator.

Even if the Reapers never rebel from this control and everything is fine and dandy forever it still bothers me.
Granted, it's still better than synthesis.

You're saying being a dictator is like a bad thing.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

Mesina2 wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

So you would doom the future to save the present.

If I have to resort in backstabbing my friend while I have alternatives, what makes me much different from what I'm trying to defeat?

That is the thing there are no alternatives. You either take the shot or you lose everything.

[Applepie_Svk]

Mesina2 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Personally control disturbs me because it's basically Shepard using the Reapers to take over the galaxy.
The fact that a Paragon will be a benevolent dictator does not change the fact that they're a dictator.

Even if the Reapers never rebel from this control and everything is fine and dandy forever it still bothers me.
Granted, it's still better than synthesis.

You're saying being a dictator is like a bad thing.

Ask to Stalin, Hitler, Husajn ... not much people grieve their deaths...

[Fuzzfro]

I find it to be a fairly decent option
Its unpopular though because

1. It's what TIM wanted
2. Shepard always said no to TIM's idea of control.
3. Future implications are always likely.
4. Most people don't like the idea of the reapers being anything but dead.

I think for a renegade Shepard control of the reapers is probably one of the worst decisions, as the galaxy will be ruled by an iron fist keeping everyone in line through the use of the reapers power and the fear they may provoke.

[Sheepie Crusher]

The last thing we need is another catalyst

[CroGamer002]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

So you would doom the future to save the present.

If I have to resort in backstabbing my friend while I have alternatives, what makes me much different from what I'm trying to defeat?

That is the thing there are no alternatives. You either take the shot or you lose everything.

We're talking here about ME3 endings situation, not Arrival situation.

[Fiery Knight]

Chewin3 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
Don't blame Shepard for lack of resources and time for proper role playing and investigate option.

Yes, a protagonist can only be as good as the game he / she is in, especially if the game is designed to be a constant corridor massacre with little IQ involved.

Stop hating Shepard!

[Dean_the_Young]

Mesina2 wrote...

sistersafetypin wrote...

Bioware may think my Shep has a Messiah complex... But she doesn't. Edi and the Geth... Well war sucks

Doesn't intentional friendly fire get you court martial?

Not if it's necessary. Same concept of danger-close and calling artillery fire on yourself, because of the threat of being overrun.

[Dean_the_Young]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Ask to Stalin, Hitler, Husajn ... not much people grieve their deaths...

...and you really can't think of the autocrats who were mourned? Really?

I mean, hell, some of their tombs became Wonders of the World.

[Fiery Knight]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Personally control disturbs me because it's basically Shepard using the Reapers to take over the galaxy.
The fact that a Paragon will be a benevolent dictator does not change the fact that they're a dictator.

Even if the Reapers never rebel from this control and everything is fine and dandy forever it still bothers me.
Granted, it's still better than synthesis.

You're saying being a dictator is like a bad thing.

Ask to Stalin, Hitler, Husajn ... not much people grieve their deaths...

People grieved when Kim died.

And I don't understand why Dictator = evil. A paragon Shepard would hardly end up doing something like that, considering what he has done throughout the series.

[Baronesa]

Mesina2 wrote...

You're saying being a dictator is like a bad thing.

It is

I know for many people living under a dictatorship is an hypothetical... for me it was a reality. Despite being  on my early years I do remember how it was.

[CroGamer002]

Baronesa wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

You're saying being a dictator is like a bad thing.

It is

I know for many people living under a dictatorship is an hypothetical... for me it was a reality. Despite being  on my early years I do remember how it was.

Is it a dictatorship a problem?

Or is it your leader?

[Baronesa]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

...and you really can't think of the autocrats who were mourned? Really?

I mean, hell, some of their tombs became Wonders of the World.

At least 40% of chileans mourned Pinochet

Does not change the tortures and human rights violations under his regime.

Look for the Rettig Report (that one is translated to english)

And the Valech Report (Have not found an english translation, but it is even more brutal than Rettig)

Modifié par Baronesa, 16 juillet 2012 - 10:41 .

[Chewin]

Hawke_12 wrote...
Stop hating Shepard!

Not hating, just stating the facts.

[Ieldra]

Ghost1017 wrote...
I believe Synthesis is the most unpopular.

According to various polls, Control is the most unpopular. Synthesis is only singular in the level of hate it attracts from certain people.

As for why Control is unpopular, it may have to do with installing an AI god as ruler of the galaxy. That reduces the agency of the civilizations of the galaxy to shape the future unless the AI god shows a lot of restraint. I like that Control exists as an option and some of my Shepards use it, but it's not my preferred one.