covertdrizzt wrote...
If I were to make a control freak, tyrannical, renegade shepard, I might chose control. I have to wonder if that AI is really shepard though.
D24O wrote...
Maybe Shepard only chose control because he thought there was another way to stop the reaper threat than by destroying the synthetics. Nothing says the Reapers can;t be decomissioned after the galaxy is rebuilt and stability is restored.o Ventus wrote...
Well it would kind of defeat the purpose of having the Destroy option, as well as calling the Control option "control".
Baldavin wrote...
There we have it again, the ultimate problem with control: it's only as good as the person that chooses it.sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Not my colonist, ruthless, renegade, hetero femShep who romanced Jacob in ME2.... AT LAST, THE POWER IS MINE. Bow down to Me.
The original Shepard is dead, but that is irrelevant. The copy should do well enough.sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
And no, that isn't Shepard. That is an AI with Shepard's attributes. Shepard gave her life so that this ... this thing would be created.
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essarr71 wrote...
Yeah.. Control seems great until you realize the Shepalyst isn't going to give the keys back to the galaxy. I'd rather my Shep not become a dictator. It never ends well for either party.
essarr71 wrote...
Yeah.. Control seems great until you realize the Shepalyst isn't going to give the keys back to the galaxy. I'd rather my Shep not become a dictator. It never ends well for either party.
Maybe he could realise that having the reapers around does more harm than good, and that destroying them once and for all is a form of guarding the galaxy from them. Look, it's your headcanon vs mine, look at what they said about the breath scene, all this s*** is up to interpertation, so I choose to interpert myself a happyish ending.o Ventus wrote...
D24O wrote...
Maybe Shepard only chose control because he thought there was another way to stop the reaper threat than by destroying the synthetics. Nothing says the Reapers can;t be decomissioned after the galaxy is rebuilt and stability is restored.o Ventus wrote...
Well it would kind of defeat the purpose of having the Destroy option, as well as calling the Control option "control".
Except that it undermines the entire purpose of the "benign guardian" of ParaControl and the Cabal aspect of ReneControl.
Modifié par D24O, 15 juillet 2012 - 01:25 .
D24O wrote...
Maybe he could realise that having the reapers around does more harm than good, and that destroying them once and for all is a form of guarding the galaxy from them. Look, it's your headcanon vs mine, look at what they said about the breath scene, all this s*** is up to interpertation, so I choose to interpert myself a happyish ending. F*** whatever they intended with this.o Ventus wrote...
D24O wrote...
Maybe Shepard only chose control because he thought there was another way to stop the reaper threat than by destroying the synthetics. Nothing says the Reapers can;t be decomissioned after the galaxy is rebuilt and stability is restored.o Ventus wrote...
Well it would kind of defeat the purpose of having the Destroy option, as well as calling the Control option "control".
Except that it undermines the entire purpose of the "benign guardian" of ParaControl and the Cabal aspect of ReneControl.
Because my Shepard doesn't want to kill the Geth and EDI. If there's another way, he'll try it.o Ventus wrote...
I'm not headcanoning anything. All I'm doing is poking at gaps in logic.
If ShepardCatalyst is jsut going to Destroy the Reapers anwyay, why not just do that in the first palce using the Crucible? Seems like an awful-lot of extra effort for the same exact conclusion.
If you go back a little you will notice that I argue only for temporary control of the reapers until the galaxy is rebuilt. After that they get destroyed.sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Exactly. Argue with The Illusive Man that no one person should have that much power simply because you want him out of the way, not because you don't believe you shouldn't have that power yourself.Baldavin wrote...
There we have it again, the ultimate problem with control: it's only as good as the person that chooses it.
I think I read that book. If I recall correctly the job gets rather boring after the first few hundred years.sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Exactly. Shepard. God Emperor of the Galaxy.
Modifié par Baldavin, 15 juillet 2012 - 01:29 .
D24O wrote...
Because my Shepard doesn't want to kill the Geth and EDI. If there's another way, he'll try it.o Ventus wrote...
I'm not headcanoning anything. All I'm doing is poking at gaps in logic.
If ShepardCatalyst is jsut going to Destroy the Reapers anwyay, why not just do that in the first palce using the Crucible? Seems like an awful-lot of extra effort for the same exact conclusion.
Tigerblood and Sharkshakes wrote...
essarr71 wrote...
Yeah.. Control seems great until you realize the Shepalyst isn't going to give the keys back to the galaxy. I'd rather my Shep not become a dictator. It never ends well for either party.
i understand the fear of someone you dont really know, but lets say shep is real.id totally be cool with tehm as the driver
Modifié par essarr71, 15 juillet 2012 - 01:35 .
synthesis space dust makes them half human once they become sentient preventing warTiconderoga117 wrote...
Ji99saw wrote...
Except for the fact there is no reason to make pure synthetics, besides what part of all synthetic life has changed forever was misunderstood? If they do make more AI synthetics they would be changed also through the magic space dust from the crucible. You can argue as much as you want but it's the only real solution except for refusal but we don't know how that cycle defeated the reapers.
Well, let's see why the Quarians made the Geth.
Survey says!.... Cheap labor!
Guess what? That reason, and others, can still be around.
Why fight wars yourself when you can no whip up a synthetic army with all that awesome Reaper tech.
Don't want to make them too advance so they won't end up being sentient, and then they become sentient anyway.
Synthesis can't change things in the future.
Thus, problem still remains. Fan-tastic!
Or he could just control the reapers and fly them into the Sun so the Geth won't be destroyed in the first place. That would be an awful-lot less effort for the same exact conclusion.o Ventus wrote...
The geth and EDI can be rebuilt (well, EDI's personality likely can't be fully restored). They exist as software, not hardware.D24O wrote...
Because my Shepard doesn't want to kill the Geth and EDI. If there's another way, he'll try it.o Ventus wrote...
I'm not headcanoning anything. All I'm doing is poking at gaps in logic.
If ShepardCatalyst is jsut going to Destroy the Reapers anwyay, why not just do that in the first palce using the Crucible? Seems like an awful-lot of extra effort for the same exact conclusion.
Modifié par bobobo878, 15 juillet 2012 - 01:34 .
bobobo878 wrote...
Or he could just control the reapers and fly them into the Sun so the Geth won't be destroyed in the first place. That would be an awful-lot less effort for the same exact conclusion.
Baldavin wrote...
I think I read that book. If I recall correctly the job gets rather boring after the first few hundred years.sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Exactly. Shepard. God Emperor of the Galaxy.
Unless reapers can get post traumatic stress, that isn't really that big of a deal.o Ventus wrote...
Yeah, minus the agonizing physical pain as he disintegrates into ash.bobobo878 wrote...
Or he could just control the reapers and fly them into the Sun so the Geth won't be destroyed in the first place. That would be an awful-lot less effort for the same exact conclusion.
bobobo878 wrote...
Unless reapers can get post traumatic stress, that isn't really that big of a deal.o Ventus wrote...
Yeah, minus the agonizing physical pain as he disintegrates into ash.bobobo878 wrote...
Or he could just control the reapers and fly them into the Sun so the Geth won't be destroyed in the first place. That would be an awful-lot less effort for the same exact conclusion.
bobobo878 wrote...
Unless reapers can get post traumatic stress, that isn't really that big of a deal.o Ventus wrote...
Yeah, minus the agonizing physical pain as he disintegrates into ash.bobobo878 wrote...
Or he could just control the reapers and fly them into the Sun so the Geth won't be destroyed in the first place. That would be an awful-lot less effort for the same exact conclusion.
Modifié par Arcadian Legend, 15 juillet 2012 - 01:44 .
And so the tables are turned. I don't think that that's possible, not as they were. Maybe we can re build their form, but WHO they were, their personalities, memories, thoughts, are possibly lost forever. Now that might be a matter of interpertation, I'd rather try to keep them as they are.o Ventus wrote...
The geth and EDI can be rebuilt (well, EDI's personality likely can't be fully restored). They exist as software, not hardware.
It means that once Shepard is a fleet of reapers, the fact that he suffered the agonizing pain as he disintegrated into ash while he was human does not matter, no permanent harm done.o Ventus wrote...
And this has what to do with my post, exactly?bobobo878 wrote...
Unless reapers can get post traumatic stress, that isn't really that big of a deal.o Ventus wrote...
Yeah, minus the agonizing physical pain as he disintegrates into ash.bobobo878 wrote...
Or he could just control the reapers and fly them into the Sun so the Geth won't be destroyed in the first place. That would be an awful-lot less effort for the same exact conclusion.
Arcadian Legend wrote...
Plus AI Shep seemed pretty chill about things so that's not really a problem. But I think he's referring to Shep dying, rather than staying alive physically.
Lol iPad autocorrect fail. Made dying dieting.
bobobo878 wrote...
It means that once Shepard is a fleet of reapers, the fact that he suffered the agonizing pain as he disintegrated into ash while he was human does not matter, no permanent harm done.
o Ventus wrote...
Shepard doesn't exist anymore, and that agonizing oain was the last thing he felt, so...
ReconTeam wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
Shepard doesn't exist anymore, and that agonizing oain was the last thing he felt, so...
His body may not exist, but his consciousness/soul/whatever does.
You have too much doubt in Reaper-God-Emperor-Shepard, please report to the nearest reprocessing center.
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