Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet I'm not complaining to Bioware to change their game based on a personal nippick unlike you.AresKeith wrote...
you should practice what you preach and move on and leave
Yet you are and Thane wasn't derailed at all solely based on his character traits and developement.LanceSolous13 wrote...
Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet I'm not complaining to Bioware to change their game based on a personal nippick unlike you.AresKeith wrote...
you should practice what you preach and move on and leave
We're not complaining because of a persional nitpick. We're complaining because of CHARACTER DERAILMENT.
Its not my fault that you're falling for nonsense instead of listening to the facts. Its also useless to make an assumption that I hate fan based on how I'm not demanding or asking for changes to be done to Thane. All I see is more straw-mann supporters instead of contructive feedback supporters.LanceSolous13 wrote...
He did change. I'm getting tired of you ignoring anything we say. NO ONE is falling for your nonsense. If you want to keep spouting that, Go make an "I hate Thane" thread. Just waste your breath elsewhere.
I see you're still resorting to use the word "troll" even when you're the one thats insulting people and avoiding the facts or opinions from others.AresKeith wrote...
Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet I'm not complaining to Bioware to change their game based on a personal nippick unlike you.AresKeith wrote...
you should practice what you preach and move on and leave
yet no one here likes to troll other people's thread saying the same thing for no reason
Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet that isn't in the final version in ME3, which it means that it isn't a fact.
Blueprotoss wrote...Yet its supposedly "removed" content from ME2 from a Bioware writer. Its time to move on with this dead horse.
Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet the romance doesn't conflict his belief of getting no cure for his terminal illness and it would still be to late for him based on him being in the late stage.
Then by all means explain those facts of yours. Since frankly I've yet to see you use any in this thread.Blueprotoss wrote...
The only difference is that I focus on the facts and I can separate fact from opinion. Ironically you would be the waste of time because you don't want to have a debate since you want to have a mindless arguement.
Really? LI content has no bearing on the character?Blueprotoss wrote...
Again being a LI doesn't matter while the character does and you're acting like nobody likes Legion or Mordin based on a Thane eclipse. Again you're forgetting that ME is Bioware's story not our story.
Blueprotoss wrote...
I see you're still resorting to use the word "troll" even when you're the one thats insulting people and avoiding the facts or opinions from others.AresKeith wrote...
Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet I'm not complaining to Bioware to change their game based on a personal nippick unlike you.AresKeith wrote...
you should practice what you preach and move on and leave
yet no one here likes to troll other people's thread saying the same thing for no reason
Either way its from a fan and isn't from the writer. Also you can't figure out the writer's intent from opinion based on how writing is subjective.Emeraldfern wrote...
The edit on the left was done by a fan. The edit on the right was done by Chris L'Etoile.
He removed the content on the left and replaced it with the the content on the right.
And guess what? It's still there because it is still relevant. Mass Effect 2 hasn't changed.
This is no "removed scene" from Mass Effect 2, it still very much present.
It is a fact. It is the original writer's intent on the scene in question.
Thane wants to die based on his past sins, which is fact based on the basic lore in ME.Emeraldfern wrote...
Err... Thane declining a lung transplant was done before the LM and romance. As in before he began to care for life again. Before "awakening from his battle-sleep" so to speak.
And lore-wise there aren't any indicators wether a cure would be succesful or not in his stage...because *gasp* they don't speak of them!
Bioware wrote Thane as a sinner looking for redemption that won't stop until he died from his terminal illness whether its the fatal illness called life.Emeraldfern wrote...
Then by all means explain those facts of yours. Since frankly I've yet to see you use any in this thread.
If you're going to participate in a debate be prepared to substantiate what you are saying.
Its all opinion on LIs unless if you're Bioware.Emeraldfern wrote...
Really? LI content has no bearing on the character?
I could careless if anyone has a specific LI while nobody should overreact based on their personal likes and dislikes.Emeraldfern wrote...
Tell that to Miranda/Tali/Jack/Jacob/Garrus/Kaidan/Ashley/Liara fans, I dare you.
Of course LI content reveal more facets to the characters. Like learning that Ashley loves poetry, Garrus has no idea how to compliment human features, Jack admits she can't always stand on her own, Tali wants to build a home on Rannoch. All of the LIs have something that is revealed when romanced, and in those playthroughs this is part of their character. And Thane is no exception to that.
Yet you're complaining over nothing, which means you would need to move on.LanceSolous13 wrote...
You've said what you wanted. You don't want Thane to live. Ok. We get that. MOVE ON ALREADY.
Yet I'm not one-sided at all even when its Bioware's decision not a small group of "fans" deciding something in ME. Its ironic that you only want to here one side instead of every side.Roxy wrote...
Take a good hard look at your replies...they are pretty much one-sided!
Modifié par Blueprotoss, 24 juillet 2012 - 01:15 .
Blueprotoss wrote...
Either way its from a fan and isn't from the writer. Also you can't figure out the writer's intent from opinion based on how writing is subjective.
Modifié par Emeraldfern, 24 juillet 2012 - 01:20 .
Yet Wikia and Wikipedia aren't valid sources while its still ironic how you're arguing over opinions even when Bioware controls ME.Emeraldfern wrote...
Blueprotoss wrote...
Either way its from a fan and isn't from the writer. Also you can't figure out the writer's intent from opinion based on how writing is subjective.
Let me introduce you to Stormwaltz, aka Chris L'Etoile:
http://masseffect.wi...User:Stormwaltz
http://masseffect.wi...ions/Stormwaltz
And here, let me introduce you to something he edited on the Mass Effect wikia:
■21:18, March 21, 2010 (diff | hist) . . (-117) . . Thane Krios (→Romance: Removed sentence which said Thane is ashamed of his past deeds. He is not; he's ashamed that he is afraid to die.)
Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet Wikia and Wikipedia aren't valid sources while its still ironic how you're arguing over opinions even when Bioware controls ME.Emeraldfern wrote...
Blueprotoss wrote...
Either way its from a fan and isn't from the writer. Also you can't figure out the writer's intent from opinion based on how writing is subjective.
Let me introduce you to Stormwaltz, aka Chris L'Etoile:
http://masseffect.wi...User:Stormwaltz
http://masseffect.wi...ions/Stormwaltz
And here, let me introduce you to something he edited on the Mass Effect wikia:
■21:18, March 21, 2010 (diff | hist) . . (-117) . . Thane Krios (→Romance: Removed sentence which said Thane is ashamed of his past deeds. He is not; he's ashamed that he is afraid to die.)
Its not my fault that you're not interested in facts.AresKeith wrote...
also Blueprotoss does that on alot of threads
Yet Thane wants to die in ME2 and ME3 whether or not you romance him. Its okay to have an opinion while no one's opinion will override Bioware.LanceSolous13 wrote...
Thane wanted to die for his failures in his life; MOST HIS FAILURE AS A FATHER AND HUSBAND. You fix that relationship between his son. He has no reason to want to die any longer.
HE OUTRIGHT STATES THAT HE DOES NOT WANT TO DIE ANYMORE.
HE SAYS HE WANTS TO LIVE FOR KOLYAT (AND SHEPARD).
Yet people are assuming on what Thane was going to be based on their opinions instead of what Bioware wanted to do with Thane as a character.LanceSolous13 wrote...
CHRIS L'ETOILE WROTE THANE DAMN IT!
Blueprotoss wrote...
Its not my fault that you're not interested in facts.AresKeith wrote...
also Blueprotoss does that on alot of threadsYet Thane wants to die in ME2 and ME3 whether or not you romance him. Its okay to have an opinion while no one's opinion will override Bioware.LanceSolous13 wrote...
Thane wanted to die for his failures in his life; MOST HIS FAILURE AS A FATHER AND HUSBAND. You fix that relationship between his son. He has no reason to want to die any longer.
HE OUTRIGHT STATES THAT HE DOES NOT WANT TO DIE ANYMORE.
HE SAYS HE WANTS TO LIVE FOR KOLYAT (AND SHEPARD).
RShara wrote...
I love how he's claiming that Thane's original writer's edit on wikia is just an opinion.
God, my sides hurt.
coldwetn0se wrote...
*Coldi saunters up to Lance with a plate of canapes and glass of White Star* Darling, you deserve some refreshments.
*Also reminds Lance that she is looking forward to his story.*
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