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Why Saving Thane Would Not "Trivialize" or "Cheapen" His Character - An Essay


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#401
Emeraldfern

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Blueprotoss wrote...

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Blueprotoss wrote...

Either way its from a fan and isn't from the writer.  Also you can't figure out the writer's intent from opinion based on how writing is subjective.


Let me introduce you to Stormwaltz, aka Chris L'Etoile:

http://masseffect.wi...User:Stormwaltz

http://masseffect.wi...ions/Stormwaltz

And here, let me introduce you to something he edited on the Mass Effect wikia:

■21:18, March 21, 2010 (diff | hist) . . (-117)‎ . . Thane Krios ‎ (→‎Romance: Removed sentence which said Thane is ashamed of his past deeds. He is not; he's ashamed that he is afraid to die.)

Yet Wikia and Wikipedia aren't valid sources while its still ironic how you're arguing over opinions even when Bioware controls ME.


Oh but you do know Chris L'Etoile was a part of Mass Effect 2 don't you?
He wrote alot in that game; Legion, Thane, Ashley, the ME2 banter on the citadel, Noveria in Mass Effect 1.

Hmmm maybe this is then:

http://stormwaltz.gamerdna.com/bio/


http://stormwaltz.ga...ect-dev-diaries


http://stormwaltz.ga...t-it-used-to-be

(Look there's a link in his first paragraph...now where does it lead? Curiosity!)

http://stormwaltz.ga...-upon-the-stars

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 24 juillet 2012 - 01:53 .


#402
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LanceSolous13 wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

*Coldi saunters up to Lance with a plate of canapes and glass of White Star* Darling, you deserve some refreshments.

*Also reminds Lance that she is looking forward to his story.* :)


Oh. You're too kind...

(Now if only I knew what those were. lol :P)


*giggle*  Just a fancy way of saying a plate full of Cheeze Doodles and a tumbler glass of Bartles & James (peach flavored, of course..)Image IPB

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coldwetn0se wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

*Coldi saunters up to Lance with a plate of canapes and glass of White Star* Darling, you deserve some refreshments.

*Also reminds Lance that she is looking forward to his story.* :)


Oh. You're too kind...

(Now if only I knew what those were. lol :P)


*giggle*  Just a fancy way of saying a plate full of Cheeze Doodles and a tumbler glass of Bartles & James (peach flavored, of course..)Image IPB


I'm going to assume Bartles & James is an alcohal. I'm not of legal drinking age! lol :P I'll just down a bottle of Cherry Coke for the moment. Thank yous though.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

*Coldi saunters up to Lance with a plate of canapes and glass of White Star* Darling, you deserve some refreshments.

*Also reminds Lance that she is looking forward to his story.* :)


Oh. You're too kind...

(Now if only I knew what those were. lol :P)


*giggle*  Just a fancy way of saying a plate full of Cheeze Doodles and a tumbler glass of Bartles & James (peach flavored, of course..)Image IPB


I'm going to assume Bartles & James is an alcohal. I'm not of legal drinking age! lol :P I'll just down a bottle of Cherry Coke for the moment. Thank yous though.


Ahha!  That makes sense...yup, its a wine cooler made popular during the '80's by high schoolers of the day (and a string of silly commercials with two older gentlemen....can be found on YouTube..Image IPB)

So last attempt at playing hostess; *Coldi offers Lance a variety of Coke products and the Dorrito flavor of his choice!*
You rock, brother!Image IPB

#405
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I'm at Batman right now. I'm good. :P *foiled plan again*

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coldwetn0se wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

*Coldi saunters up to Lance with a plate of canapes and glass of White Star* Darling, you deserve some refreshments.

*Also reminds Lance that she is looking forward to his story.* :)


Oh. You're too kind...

(Now if only I knew what those were. lol :P)


*giggle*  Just a fancy way of saying a plate full of Cheeze Doodles and a tumbler glass of Bartles & James (peach flavored, of course..)Image IPB


I'm going to assume Bartles & James is an alcohal. I'm not of legal drinking age! lol :P I'll just down a bottle of Cherry Coke for the moment. Thank yous though.


Ahha!  That makes sense...yup, its a wine cooler made popular during the '80's by high schoolers of the day (and a string of silly commercials with two older gentlemen....can be found on YouTube..Image IPB)

So last attempt at playing hostess; *Coldi offers Lance a variety of Coke products and the Dorrito flavor of his choice!*
You rock, brother!Image IPB


*strolls in*

>.>

<.<

I'll take those thanks. *runs off to binge*  Take that nicotine withdrawal!!! :devil:

#407
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*Adds a plate of Pirouettes to the table......you know 'symbolic' help for mnomaha's cigarette withdrawl*
Smok'em....errr Eat'em while ya got 'em!

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*Adds a chocolate Thane centerpiece to the table, standing in the ruins of a troleng ice sculpture* Don't think we should eat this one, but at least troleng can cool our drinks. he's gotta be good for something. ;)

*subtly hands lance a can of cherry coke* Here, drink this before mnomoha comes back.

#409
LanceSolous13

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*has a giant keg of Cherry Coke strapped to back* Nah. I'm good. *sip*

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Pirouettes? The heck is that? Unless I'm having hallucinations and my food is doing ballet...

*makes grabby hands* chocolate Thane...hey! Why does troleng have an ice sculpture? I have a zippo...can I be creative?

@Lance...you are my hero!

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What did I do this time?

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You have a Cherry Coke keg...strapped to your back...You are awesome!

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@bluecamsam...

"You cannot trivialize what has already been made trivial"

Absolutely the way I feel. Thane's character, story, really every thing about him was trivialised in ME3. There really was very little evidence of the Drell I romanced in ME2.

Further, I feel my position as a female gamer in ME3 was trivialised and was so insulting that I cannot imagine paying for another bioware game.

Modifié par mnomaha, 25 juillet 2012 - 04:44 .


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@mnomaha - Damn girly, you really HAVE been outta the states for a long time....they're cookies, me Lady!

*Picks up Lance and starts shaking him vigorously, then taps the Coke Keg.......runs away giggling maniacally*

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 24 juillet 2012 - 07:31 .


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*runs in wearing a toga* Party! Party!

#416
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*Dizzy from being shaken*

I prefer to be sturrrrrrrrred. *pass out*

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OK, this picture, taken from the dialog on Normandy right after Thane dies is proof that Bioware cheapened Thane and made him irrelevant, with his "redshirt death".

Thane has just been added to the wall, what does Garrus say about it ?
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Renmiri1 wrote...

OK, this picture, taken from the dialog on Normandy right after Thane dies is proof that Bioware cheapened Thane and made him irrelevant, with his "redshirt death".

Thane has just been added to the wall, what does Garrus say about it ?
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He's talking about the VS NOT THANE!

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We know he's not talking about Thane.
That's the whole point. Thane just died his name ends up on the wall and Garrus says something like this.
It's just proves they forgot about Thane. No one even mentions him.

Modifié par JECW, 28 juillet 2012 - 11:06 .


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Ghost1017 wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

OK, this picture, taken from the dialog on Normandy right after Thane dies is proof that Bioware cheapened Thane and made him irrelevant, with his "redshirt death".

Thane has just been added to the wall, what does Garrus say about it ?
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He's talking about the VS NOT THANE!


Ummmmm duh?  That's the point?  Thane's name JUST GOT ADDED but Garrus sends that message.
Slap in the face.

thanks for remembering Thane, Bioware

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Do they even do that with other squadmates?(Haven't used Datapad in awhile)

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If he hadn't been mentioned, (which he isn't, directly), is bad enough.

The problem is Garrus says he's glad they didn't need to add a name to the wall, WHEN THEY JUST DID.

I'm sure that if Miranda dies, either no one says anything, or offers condolences (Tali sure does), but they don't send a message saying Glad no one died back there!

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Yea Bioware didn't really care about the ME2 people :(

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RShara wrote...

If he hadn't been mentioned, (which he isn't, directly), is bad enough.

The problem is Garrus says he's glad they didn't need to add a name to the wall, WHEN THEY JUST DID.

I'm sure that if Miranda dies, either no one says anything, or offers condolences (Tali sure does), but they don't send a message saying Glad no one died back there!

I wish they mentioned his death like Mordin's after the shroud ingame but IDK it's just an app. Also, isn't he still alive after the attack with the scene at the hospital?