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[BSpud]

Apparently keeping a harem of lobotomized women is ethically synonymous with having a monogamous relationship with your baby momma months after secretly dumping your previous monogamous relationship. I mean, Jacob's actions are crap and out of character, but they are in no way comparable to Rape Hefner.

[JECW]

Blueprotoss wrote...

BeefheartSpud wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Either way the "father like son" statement is true.

How is this claim true?

His father had multiple women and if you romanced Jacob in ME2 then Jacob will also have multiple women.

You can not be serious.
Jacob doesn't have multiple women in ME2. He doesn't have multiple women in ME3. He has one woman that he cheats on Shepard with and then ends the relationship. How is that multiple women.

[Bluecansam]

BeefheartSpud wrote...

RShara wrote...

I'm laughing so hard

Wish me luck!

Been there. (Still kinda there.) Good luck!

[Bluecansam]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Oh.

That's better. I was just finding it rediculious we'd have to feel like ****s for saving our LI. That would be beyond stupid.

I dunno, I think it might be an interesting choice to make. Not one I'd enjoy making necessarily, but an interesting one. Actually, something like that does happen in the game if you don't have enough reputation to bring peace between the geth and the quarians. If you're gonna save Tali, you have to kill Legion and condemn the geth, which I imagine feels pretty crappy. I'm sure Tali-mancers have a lot to say on the subject.

[samb]

Blueprotoss wrote... how are transplants a cure for disease like how liver failure is liver failure whether its alcoholism or any other disease even if its not based in the liver itself.  Again enough money and knowing the right people will get you past anyting and everything.

Considering I just did a consult on a liver transplant patient and have another patient who had a renal transplant when she was 6 (poly cystic renal disease) and is now in her 40's I'd say you are wrong.  I'll let you guess what degree I have.  I'll give you a hint it has the word "medical" in it. You're just factually wrong.  Study some pathology textbook and educate yourself before you sound like more of an idiot. 

Life is the greatest disease while you chose to ignore that transplants still don't cure disease. 

"Life is the greatest disease".... Yeah now we are getting all hipster?  You are ignoring that you're wrong. Read any medical textbook and you will realize this. 

Again organ failures aren't always related to that organ while the symptoms will tell you a different if you pay attention enough.

If you base your argument on "transplants don't cure diseases" then your whole argument is invalid since that is factually wrong.  Liver failure can manifest as jaundice (yellow skin), ateletises, varicose veins (which can refuting bloody vomitus). Any doctor, or med student, would be able to diagnose liver failure based on that. What is your point? Your liver has to hurt or something?  It's fine to not be versed in medicine and pathology but please know your own limits of knowledge and not spread bad advise. 

Oh the irony.  Again if I was talking out of my ass then I would make assumptions that Kepral Syndrome has cure and expect a miracle. 

It's not ironic, it's moronic. Transplants do cure disease, that's a fact.  It is moronic that you are insisting it doesn't. 
Bioware didn't do it research on Kepral's syndrome, which is strange since it was founded by two doctors. If it was tissue damage, as the codex stated then a transplant would work. If moisture was the cause, then an exosuit would prevent it. I have been saying this for a while now, and the OP even stated clearly that if Kepral worked as described, then even medicine of this century would be able to manage it.  

Modifié par samb, 18 août 2012 - 02:48 .

[LanceSolous13]

Quote fail.

[Bluecansam]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Bluecansam wrote... 

And there was no character development for Thane and no choice to save him, which is why HE'S a redshirt in ME3. Thank you for proving my point.

If there was no character developement then Thane wouldn't have been in ME3 and the meaning of the term red shirt is when a random character gets killed seconds or minutes with a random death after their introduction.  It doesn't matter if you have a choice to not save a character while yo don't hear that many Legion or Tali fans having unavoidable deaths in most of their situations.  Characters have died in the ME series as story elements before Thane and there's nothing new about that.

You can save Tali. Legion is not an LI. It IS new that an LI is given a forced death.

A lack of character development means that a character remains stagnant (the same). In ME3, Thane does nothing to develop his character. Development = change. You can have characters in stories and see them not change. Kai Leng doesn't change. Henry Lawson doesn't change. These are flat, one-dimensional characters. In ME3, Thane doesn't change, and in fact goes back on character development established in ME2. All he does is sit, talk about his disease, and get killed. Red shirt.

[samb]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Quote fail.

Should be better now. 

[Taboo]

I see he answered my criticism of his post.

Fail.

[Omega Torsk]

Whole lot of reaching going on, here...

I should go.

[Bluecansam]

samb wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote... how are transplants a cure for disease like how liver failure is liver failure whether its alcoholism or any other disease even if its not based in the liver itself.  Again enough money and knowing the right people will get you past anyting and everything.

Considering I just did a consult on a liver transplant patient and have another patient who had a renal transplant when she was 6 (poly cystic renal disease) and is now in her 40's I'd say you are wrong.  I'll let you guess what degree I have.  I'll give you a hint it has the word "medical" in it. You're just factually wrong.  Study some pathology textbook and educate yourself before you sound like more of an idiot. 

Life is the greatest disease while you chose to ignore that transplants still don't cure disease. 

"Life is the greatest disease".... Yeah now we are getting all hipster?  You are ignoring that you're wrong. Read any medical textbook and you will realize this. 

Again organ failures aren't always related to that organ while the symptoms will tell you a different if you pay attention enough.

If you base your argument on "transplants don't cure diseases" then your whole argument is invalid since that is factually wrong.  Liver failure can manifest as jaundice (yellow skin), ateletises, varicose veins (which can refuting bloody vomitus). Any doctor, or med student, would be able to diagnose liver failure based on that. What is your point? Your liver has to hurt or something?  It's fine to not be versed in medicine and pathology but please know your own limits of knowledge and not spread bad advise. 

Oh the irony.  Again if I was talking out of my ass then I would make assumptions that Kepral Syndrome has cure and expect a miracle. 

It's not ironic, it's moronic. Transplants do cure disease, that's a fact.  It is moronic that you are insisting it doesn't. 
Bioware didn't do it research on Kepral's syndrome, which is strange since it was founded by two doctors. If it was tissue damage, as the codex stated then a transplant would work. If moisture was the cause, then an exosuit would prevent it. I have been saying this for a while now, and the OP even stated clearly that if Kepral worked as described, then even medicine of this century would be able to manage it.  

This post is all kinds of win. *gives you cookies*

[samb]

Bluecansam wrote.. 

This post is all kinds of win. *gives you cookies*

Make it a chocolate one!

[Bluecansam]

*gives you chocolate cookies*

... dang it, now I'm hungry. *runs off to find actual food for me to eat*

Modifié par Bluecansam, 18 août 2012 - 05:39 .

[RShara]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Quote fail.

pot calling kettle.

WHOA I WAS JUST POSSESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bluecansam]

RShara wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Quote fail.

pot calling kettle.

WHOA I WAS JUST POSSESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL.

[AresKeith]

RShara wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Quote fail.

pot calling kettle.

WHOA I WAS JUST POSSESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!

yet I'm the one not trying to insult

[GreyLycanTrope]

BeefheartSpud wrote...

I've discovered that the Blueprotoss phenomenon makes more sense if you pretend he's secretly Tommy Wiseau and, accordingly, his posts are easier to deal with if you read them in Wiseau's voice.

Works with the Catalyst

[Blueprotoss]

Bluecansam wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

BeefheartSpud wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Either way the "father like son" statement is true.

How is this claim true?

His father had multiple women and if you romanced Jacob in ME2 then Jacob will also have multiple women.

In ME3, he cheats/has multiple women. We're saying that in ME2, he was not like that at all. If you say Jacob has a history of acting like his father, you must show proof from ME2. Otherwise, Jacob's character has been changed from ME2 to ME3.

His father cheats in ME2 and if you romance Jacob then Jacob cheats on you in ME3.  Its not that hard to notice that.

BeefheartSpud wrote...

Exactly. Otherwise you're stuck in a very silly loop of bad recursive reasoning, Blue. I am going to completely throw all my BSN time and energy in this fool's errand of helping you think clearly on an issue, dammit; even if it kills me. I don't think you will--or even can--ever change your mind on anything you've already established a fixed, preconcieved viewpoint on, but I will try. I. WILL. TRY.

I see that you're not interested in the facts. 

Taboo-XX wrote...

Are you serious? Really? Do you even understand what you're saying?

It sounds like you don't want to pay attention. 

JECW wrote...

You can not be serious. 
Jacob doesn't have multiple women in ME2. He doesn't have multiple women in ME3. He has one woman that he cheats on Shepard with and then ends the relationship. How is that multiple women. 

I see you missed the whole ME3 thinng because Jacob cheats on you in ME3 if you romanced him in ME2.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 18 août 2012 - 06:09 .

[Blueprotoss]

samb wrote...

Considering I just did a consult on a liver transplant patient and have another patient who had a renal transplant when she was 6 (poly cystic renal disease) and is now in her 40's I'd say you are wrong.  I'll let you guess what degree I have.  I'll give you a hint it has the word "medical" in it. You're just factually wrong.  Study some pathology textbook and educate yourself before you sound like more of an idiot.

If you realy knew what you were talking about then you would know that a transplant isn't a cure for disease. and if I was factually wrong then immortality wouldn't be a dream.

samb wrote... 

"Life is the greatest disease".... Yeah now we are getting all hipster?  You are ignoring that you're wrong. Read any medical textbook and you will realize this.

I'm not ignoring anything or I'm not a hipster while I see you're too busy with insults and over analyzing to see the facts.

samb wrote... 

If you base your argument on "transplants don't cure diseases" then your whole argument is invalid since that is factually wrong.  Liver failure can manifest as jaundice (yellow skin), ateletises, varicose veins (which can refuting bloody vomitus). Any doctor, or med student, would be able to diagnose liver failure based on that. What is your point? Your liver has to hurt or something?  It's fine to not be versed in medicine and pathology but please know your own limits of knowledge and not spread bad advise.

How is that especially when transplants usually make you weaker based on the amount of drugs and suppliments that you need to take to stay healthy and avoid organ rejection.

samb wrote... 

It's not ironic, it's moronic. Transplants do cure disease, that's a fact.  It is moronic that you are insisting it doesn't. 
Bioware didn't do it research on Kepral's syndrome, which is strange since it was founded by two doctors. If it was tissue damage, as the codex stated then a transplant would work. If moisture was the cause, then an exosuit would prevent it. I have been saying this for a while now, and the OP even stated clearly that if Kepral worked as described, then even medicine of this century would be able to manage it.

That actually was ironic based on how  you are talking out of your ass and making a lot of assumptions on Kepral's Syndrome.  If you really knew what you were talking about then you won't this far reaching even in the ME lore.

[Blueprotoss]

Bluecansam wrote....

You can save Tali. Legion is not an LI. It IS new that an LI is given a forced death.

Never said that Tali couldn't be saved or that Legion was a LI while it doesn't matter because characters will die whether you like it or not.  Its like complaining to JRR Tolkien that Gandalf the Grey dies in the Fellowship of the Ring, Christopher Nolan that Rachael Dawes dies in the Dark Knight,  and Stan Lee that Spider-Man dies in some of the Spider-Man series.

Bluecansam wrote.... 

A lack of character development means that a character remains stagnant (the same). In ME3, Thane does nothing to develop his character. Development = change. You can have characters in stories and see them not change. Kai Leng doesn't change. Henry Lawson doesn't change. These are flat, one-dimensional characters. In ME3, Thane doesn't change, and in fact goes back on character development established in ME2. All he does is sit, talk about his disease, and get killed. Red shirt.

There is only so much you can do with Thane especially when he was going to die in ME3 and most of his story was already established in ME2.  Most of the characters don't have drastic changes in ME3 because their characters were already established in ME1 and/or ME2.  This is nthing new because it happens a lot in video games, movies, tv shows, novels, and comics.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 18 août 2012 - 06:36 .

[AresKeith]

your comments are giving me a headache

[Blueprotoss]

AresKeith wrote...

your comments are giving me a headache

If you're having a hard time understanding the facts then thats on you not me.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 18 août 2012 - 07:12 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

your comments are giving me a headache

If you're having a hard time understanding the facts then thats on you not me.

Yet ironically it is you who doesn't understand facts, since cows go moo.

[Roxy]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

your comments are giving me a headache

If you're having a hard time understanding the facts then thats on you not me.

Yet ironically it is you who doesn't understand facts, since cows go moo.

 I don't think he even knows the meaning of the word facts!

[Renmiri1]

[ start Blueprotoss impersonation ]

Jacob's father has 2 eyes and 2 ears so Jacob is definitely like his father because he is not a one eyed, Van Gog wannabe mutant!

[ end BP Impersonation ]

Modifié par Renmiri1, 18 août 2012 - 07:32 .