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Why Saving Thane Would Not "Trivialize" or "Cheapen" His Character - An Essay


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So... what do you guys think? Is this an act, a result of a severely poor education or a genuine cognitive disability?

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BeefheartSpud wrote...

So... what do you guys think? Is this an act, a result of a severely poor education or a genuine cognitive disability?

I'm starting to think he believes everything he types...

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Is it just me or is bluprotos getting dumber every time he opens his mouth?

Honestly I think it's an act to get attention. or I did in the beginning. Now, I'm just thinking he's a dip****. Definitely not a genuine cognitive disability or he wouldn't be able to type so well. I do however think he may be dyslexic.

Yeah. It's an act.

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BeefheartSpud wrote...

So... what do you guys think? Is this an act, a result of a severely poor education or a genuine cognitive disability?

Pot calling the black since the topic here is opinion.

Greylycantrope wrote...

I'm starting to think he believes everything he types...

So you aren't interested in the facts then. 

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mythlover20 wrote...

Is it just me or is bluprotos getting dumber every time he opens his mouth?

Honestly I think it's an act to get attention. or I did in the beginning. Now, I'm just thinking he's a dip****. Definitely not a genuine cognitive disability or he wouldn't be able to type so well. I do however think he may be dyslexic.

Yeah. It's an act.

If thats the case then I would be acting like you since you only seem to focus on opinions and insults instead of the facts.

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mythlover20 wrote...

Is it just me or is bluprotos getting dumber every time he opens his mouth?

Honestly I think it's an act to get attention. or I did in the beginning. Now, I'm just thinking he's a dip****. Definitely not a genuine cognitive disability or he wouldn't be able to type so well. I do however think he may be dyslexic.

Yeah. It's an act.


I also think it's an act, and he's just trying to get attention.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

Now I know you don't know what you're talking about when using Wikipedia as a source.

It's a good thing I cited a medical textbook a few lines down.

Blueprotoss wrote...
Medical journals are just doctor opinion and you can get anything published whether you're right or wrong.  Btw you shouldn't make a petty insult when I you most likely haven't got an article in a Medical journal as well, which a very bad way to cause a straw-mann.

I did provide a well established medical text (on it's 16th edition) while you produced none.  Medical journals go through what is known as "peer-review" go and read one.  They use something called "the scientific method" and "statistics".  Yeah I am making a strawman arguement; that you don't know what you are talking about.  You're "facts" are not based on reality or established literature.

Yet I haven't used my opinions with you and this is neiher a debate becuase you're trying to cause a meaningless arguement even when transplant don't cure diaseas while they  can ironically cause disease.

Please show me one article or text that supports your stance.

How is my stance on transplants are wrong when they don't cure disease especially when someone becomes required to get multiple transplants with the same organ in their lives.  You're focusing on opinion not the facts while I'm focusing on the facts not opinion.  I'm hoping you aren't someone's 2nd opinion for a transplant decision.

your stance is wrong because propective studies have shown great outcomes for people who do get it (compared to those that don't).  As I have said before, I do consults.  Meaning I am the second opinion.  I'm not trying to say "believe me because I'm a doctor"  I'm saying you should read up on the topic you wish to debate about before you look even dumber.  I wasn't always a doctor, I read and studied my ass off.  All you had to do was read up on one topic and it was too hard for you.  That, or your pride would not let you come to grips with the fact you are wrong.
Either way you come off looking like an idiot. 

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BeefheartSpud wrote...

So... what do you guys think? Is this an act, a result of a severely poor education or a genuine cognitive disability?

Aspie or OCD

People with Asperger's can be quite intelligent and type very well. Same for OCD. I'm leaning towards OCD. Certainly the volume of his posting suggests an obssession with us and our topic. Also the way he keeps on repeating himself oblivious to any rebuttal.

Is the reason I stopped resenting his intrusion here. Not really into Special Olympics, even if it is on the debate category :P

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Blueprotoss wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

I'm starting to think he believes everything he types...

So you aren't interested in the facts then. 

I'm not interested in poetry

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 20 août 2012 - 07:01 .


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and he wonders why we don't wanna debate with him

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Blueprotoss wrote...

BeefheartSpud wrote...

So... what do you guys think? Is this an act, a result of a severely poor education or a genuine cognitive disability?

Pot calling the black since the topic here is opinion.

Greylycantrope wrote...

I'm starting to think he believes everything he types...

So you aren't interested in the facts then. 


Its not the pat calling the kettle black. We've backed up our statements NUMERIOUS times. You haven't backed up a SINGLE one of yours.

We are interested in facts. WE LOVE FACTS. You've yet to show any facts PERIOD.

I myself HAVE PROVEN THAT THANE WAS NOT INTERESTED IN DEATH AT THE END OF MASS EFFECT 2.

I proved that on Page 20 with direct quotes from the character himself.

Someone else showed DIRECT QUOTES from THANE'S AUTHOR stating that he DIDN'T want to die at the end of Mass Effect 2.

We've backed up our medical facts stating that a Lung Transplant would be more than possible for Thane EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T NEED TO BECAUSE CHAKWAS SAID IT WOULD WORK!

You've spouted nothing but "You don't listen to my facts" and ete WHEN YOU HAVEN'T POSTED ANY. I've made simple requests for you to post them and you ignore it and then complain no one is listening to you.

WE'LL LISTEN WHEN YOU ACTUALLY SAY SOMETHING.

*sigh*

So all those here, I'd reccomend reporting his nonsense to a mod.

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Don't think mods will do anything , unless he actually offends someone. Just try to skip his posts.

Watch out so you don't get angry and earn a 24 hour ban. I got one last month :P

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Modifié par Renmiri1, 20 août 2012 - 07:59 .


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Renmiri1 wrote...

BeefheartSpud wrote...

So... what do you guys think? Is this an act, a result of a severely poor education or a genuine cognitive disability?

Aspie or OCD

People with Asperger's can be quite intelligent and type very well. Same for OCD. I'm leaning towards OCD. Certainly the volume of his posting suggests an obssession with us and our topic. Also the way he keeps on repeating himself oblivious to any rebuttal.

Is the reason I stopped resenting his intrusion here. Not really into Special Olympics, even if it is on the debate category [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

This is ironic when you're insulting some over the Internet. 

Renmiri1 wrote...

Don't think mods will do anything , unless he actually offends someone. Just try to skip his posts.

Watch out so you don't get angry and earn a 24 hour ban. I got one last month :P

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How is that when I'm following the rules while most of you guys here wld get a ban before me.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 20 août 2012 - 08:49 .


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AresKeith wrote...

and he wonders why we don't wanna debate with him

Because you try to use opinions as facts, which that is a starter.

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samb wrote...

It's a good thing I cited a medical textbook a few lines down.

Yet  that doesn't make a difference because you can find a medical book from the Renaissance period.  Either way you used Wikipedia.

samb wrote... 

I did provide a well established medical text (on it's 16th edition) while you produced none.  Medical journals go through what is known as "peer-review" go and read one.  They use something called "the scientific method" and "statistics".  Yeah I am making a strawman arguement; that you don't know what you are talking about.  You're "facts" are not based on reality or established literature.

Yet you're not interested in "facts" based on how transplants don't cure disease.

samb wrote... 

Please show me one article or text that supports your stance.

So common sense isn't enough, which thats strange.

samb wrote... 

your stance is wrong because propective studies have shown great outcomes for people who do get it (compared to those that don't).  As I have said before, I do consults.  Meaning I am the second opinion.  I'm not trying to say "believe me because I'm a doctor"  I'm saying you should read up on the topic you wish to debate about before you look even dumber.  I wasn't always a doctor, I read and studied my ass off.  All you had to do was read up on one topic and it was too hard for you.  That, or your pride would not let you come to grips with the fact you are wrong.
Either way you come off looking like an idiot. 

How is that stance wrong when transplants don't cure disease especially when we're talking about alcoholism.  Again 
I'm hoping you aren't someone's 2nd opinion for a transplant decision since you're not interested in the facts.

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The irony is that we've provided lots of facts, and you have never so much as provided a single source or link.

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RShara wrote...

The irony is that we've provided lots of facts, and you have never so much as provided a single source or link.


instead he says, "well I use common sense" or a stupid phrase

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You're nearly a laugh Blueprotoss

Nearly a laugh

You're really a cry.

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Its not the pat calling the kettle black. We've backed up our statements NUMERIOUS times. You haven't backed up a SINGLE one of yours.

Yet you don't practice what you preach and aren't willingly to listen to otheres that don't agree with you including Bioware.

LanceSolous13 wrote... 

We are interested in facts. WE LOVE FACTS. You've yet to show any facts PERIOD.

Headcannon is your game.

LanceSolous13 wrote... 

I myself HAVE PROVEN THAT THANE WAS NOT INTERESTED IN DEATH AT THE END OF MASS EFFECT 2.

I proved that on Page 20 with direct quotes from the character himself.

Someone else showed DIRECT QUOTES from THANE'S AUTHOR stating that he DIDN'T want to die at the end of Mass Effect 2.

Thane is willing die no matter what happens and to add a cure option cheapens his character like if you saved Legion or Mordin because its against their characters.

LanceSolous13 wrote... 

We've backed up our medical facts stating that a Lung Transplant would be more than possible for Thane EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T NEED TO BECAUSE CHAKWAS SAID IT WOULD WORK!

Yet Thane is a Drell not human and Dr. Chakwas is an expert on human biology with no Drell biology knowledge.

LanceSolous13 wrote... 

You've spouted nothing but "You don't listen to my facts" and ete WHEN YOU HAVEN'T POSTED ANY. I've made simple requests for you to post them and you ignore it and then complain no one is listening to you.

If nobody resorted to insults, focused on opinions, demanded changes, or wanted to start arguements then this topic wouldn't be like is based on the fans' ignorance.

LanceSolous13 wrote... 

WE'LL LISTEN WHEN YOU ACTUALLY SAY SOMETHING.

*sigh*

So all those here, I'd reccomend reporting his nonsense to a mod.

Yet you're only reporting yourself because I'm following the rules and this would most likely get this topic locked.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 20 août 2012 - 09:05 .


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RShara wrote...

The irony is that we've provided lots of facts, and you have never so much as provided a single source or link.

How is that when this whole topic is based on opinion with assumptions and lots of speculation.

AresKeith wrote...

instead he says, "well I use common sense" or a stupid phrase

Well you don't have common sense when you only use insults and opinions. 

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Cite one source. Just one.  Provide a screenshot, or a link or a quote.

Here's mine proving that at the end of ME2, Thane did NOT want to die.  By his BIOWARE WRITER.

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Modifié par RShara, 20 août 2012 - 09:26 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

RShara wrote...

The irony is that we've provided lots of facts, and you have never so much as provided a single source or link.

How is that when this whole topic is based on opinion with assumptions and lots of speculation.

AresKeith wrote...

instead he says, "well I use common sense" or a stupid phrase

Well you don't have common sense when you only use insults and opinions. 

I have to ask, what are you even trying to accomplish by doing this? Do you just want to play devil's advocate?
If Bioware decided to implement the choice for a cure, it would be a choice.

Simply that. You wouldn't have to cure him if that's what you wanted. You could just pretend it never happened, like many people are already doing for the Extended Cut, for those who don't like it, and for the ME3 endings.

If it's about what you call Thane's self-sacrificing character, it can be made into a scenario where Thane doesn't want to do the treatment in favor of other patients, but if you romanced him, you can persuade him to do the treatment in time to save him. 

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Because Bioware didn't do it so they shouldn't be forced into doing it based on it's their game

duh!

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My diagnosis for BlueProtoss: Mental retardation, severe

Treatment options: Risperdal 2mg PO BID, chemical castration, lobotomy. 

signed Dr. Samb

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RShara wrote...

Because Bioware didn't do it so they shouldn't be forced into doing it based on it's their game

duh!


yet Pot calling