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Why Saving Thane Would Not "Trivialize" or "Cheapen" His Character - An Essay


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#176
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LanceSolous13 wrote...
Oopse. I forgot Traynor too. *facepalm*


Yeah my edit kind of clarifies my stance on this.

...I really should start a seperate thread instead of hijacking this one.

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mythlover20 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Opinions are subjective just like how I could careless about Jacob and you wanted more from Thane.


You really need to start paying attention to what you type, dear. Even if your insults were valid arguments (they're not. You must really be having diffulties in school if you actually think that they are) every single one of them is being rebutted by your own poor use of English grammer.

Case in point: "I could careless."

The correct phrase is: "I couldn't care less." The statement means that it would be impossible for any sentimental attachment you felt towards a given topic/object to be reduced any further.

"Careless" means acting without care, as in "His treatment of his possessions was rather careless." Further synonyms in this context would be "acting irresponsibly," "not paying attention to your actions" or "acting with disregard" . Which is what you're doing when you type. Not disregard to us who disagree with you; disregard to yourself and whatever point it is you're trying to make.

If you are going to insult people, please at least do so intelligibly. Thank you.

PS I am a writer and editor. If I know anything, it is English (with Australian grammer for you Americans, though I usually disregard it when posting).

Thank you for your time.


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mythlover20 wrote...

You really need to start paying attention to what you type, dear. Even if your insults were valid arguments (they're not, you much really have diffulties in school if you actually think that they are) every single one of them is being rebutted by your own poor use of English grammer.

Case in point: "I could careless."

The correct phrase is: "I couldn't care less." The statement means that it would be impossible for any sentimental attachment you felt towards a given topic/object to be reduced any further.

"Careless" means acting without care, as in "His treatment of his possessions was rather careless." Further synonyms in this context would be "acting irresponsibly," "not paying attention to your actions" or "acting with disregard" . Which is what you're doing when you type.

If you are going to insult people, please at least do so intelligibly. Thank you.

PS I am a writer and editor. If I know anything, it is English (with Australian grammer for you Americans, though I usually disregard it when posting).

Thank you for your time.

I love the irony here based on how Thane not getting the "right" treatment is your opinion while Thane did get the right treatment is a fact.  I'm surprised that you haven't stopped bothering Bioware to create some fan fics based on your entitlement.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 16 juillet 2012 - 02:47 .


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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

RShara wrote...

It boggles me how saying he's afraid of death, and how he's no longer asleep, and no longer accepts his fate means that he's ready to die........

Yet the only mind boggling here is that some people forget that everyone can die and Thane accepts his mortality with his fatal terminal illness.  Its time to move on.


Except, HE DIDN'T. By the end of ME2, He doesn't want to die. It is a big writing no-no to ignore character development. AND WE'VE PROVED THAT TO YOU SO MANY TIMES NOW.

Go back to your bridge troll.

Yelling at people won't help you just as much as insulting them.  Btw you also need to learn not to abuse the word "troll".

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 16 juillet 2012 - 02:49 .


#180
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*puts up caution tape*

Just keep moving people. Ignore the troll here just as he ignore any legitimate arguements we have.

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Emeraldfern wrote...

"The expectation to move swiftly to my end vanished upon uniting with your cause. You awoke me, Shepard."

How does the above actually state he is ready to die?
He specificly states that his resolve to meet his demise early, "vanished".

Yet he still accepts death whether he is romanced or not while that doesn't make him emotionless.

Emeraldfern wrote... 

These are direct quotes from the game, not something out of thin air. And indeed that is what I base my view on, and so far, I have yet to see you using any quote, or exercept from the game to substantiate your view.

You should stop using emotions as a crutch based on your standing on using semantics.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

*puts up caution tape*

Just keep moving people. Ignore the troll here just as he ignore any legitimate arguements we have.

Yet the caution tape was put up with the creation of this thread based on how some "fans" don't want to hear the facts while they'll abuse words like "troll" to look tough behind their anonymity.  Its time to move based on how Bioware has done enough based on the ignorance and entitlement that they get on a daily basis.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 16 juillet 2012 - 02:57 .


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That's it, I'm singing the song.

Troll sat alone on his seat of stone,
And munched and mumbled bare old bone;
For many a year he had gnawed it near,
For meat was hard to come by.
Done by! Gum by!
In a cave in the hills he dwelt alone,
And meat was hard to come by.

*Throws a bone out of the forums* FETCH!

#184
LanceSolous13

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Tashash wrote...

That's it, I'm singing the song.

Troll sat alone on his seat of stone,
And munched and mumbled bare old bone;
For many a year he had gnawed it near,
For meat was hard to come by.
Done by! Gum by!
In a cave in the hills he dwelt alone,
And meat was hard to come by.

*Throws a bone out of the forums* FETCH!


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#185
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Tashash wrote...

That's it, I'm singing the song.

Troll sat alone on his seat of stone,
And munched and mumbled bare old bone;
For many a year he had gnawed it near,
For meat was hard to come by.
Done by! Gum by!
In a cave in the hills he dwelt alone,
And meat was hard to come by.

*Throws a bone out of the forums* FETCH!

Pot calling the kettle black.

#186
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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Tashash wrote...

That's it, I'm singing the song.

Troll sat alone on his seat of stone,
And munched and mumbled bare old bone;
For many a year he had gnawed it near,
For meat was hard to come by.
Done by! Gum by!
In a cave in the hills he dwelt alone,
And meat was hard to come by.

*Throws a bone out of the forums* FETCH!


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Sorry he isn't Thane.

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lol Tash, awesome

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Bluepotross - I have made very few comments here, and I have not made any that could be considered troll-like by the most ridgid standards.
Also, Lance-Solous is male, and I am female, which you would know if you bothered to check our profiles, which you should have done before insulting someone's sexual preferences, or your assumption of their sexual prefferences.

Lance - Oh you! *blush*

RShara - *Bows* I live to help.

Modifié par Tashash, 16 juillet 2012 - 03:07 .


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LanceSolous13 wrote...

*snip because of unneccessary-ness* (oh shut up, I'm tired okay!)

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AUTHOR-HUG!!!!!!!!!!

#190
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My darling Tashash, I do believe he was propositioning you! You lucky woman, you. ;)

The song is perfect! I just downloaded GIMPShop and I am SO TOTALLY gonna do a troll song pic!

Please?

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Tashash wrote...

Bluepotross - I have made very few comments here, and I have not made any that could be considered troll-like by the most ridgid standards.
Also, Lance-Solous is male, and I am female, which you would know if you bothered to check our profiles, which you should have done before insulting someone's sexual preferences, or your assumption of their sexual prefferences.

Lance - Oh you! *blush*

Your previous comment would be defined as "troll-like"  based on its flammatory nature and off-topic purpose.  Like I said before some people shouldn't use words that they don't know what the meaning of, which happens to be "troll" in this case.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 16 juillet 2012 - 03:09 .


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Mythlover - Well, if it dosen't work out with the guy doing Thane's voice for the MS comics....

And go right ahead!

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mythlover20 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

*snip because of unneccessary-ness* (oh shut up, I'm tired okay!)

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AUTHOR-HUG!!!!!!!!!!


YAY! HUGS!

*pounce*

#194
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*pounce back* *mid-air collision* *lands in a lump of tangled limps*

Hugs! Totally worth it! ;)

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Out of curiosity, if you Thanemanced and stayed faithful, do you get an image of him when you pick your ending and have the flashback, or nothing at all for that portion of the flashback?

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Sethicus333 wrote...

Out of curiosity, if you Thanemanced and stayed faithful, do you get an image of him when you pick your ending and have the flashback, or nothing at all for that portion of the flashback?


Originally? No. With EC? Yes.

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Sethicus333 wrote...

Out of curiosity, if you Thanemanced and stayed faithful, do you get an image of him when you pick your ending and have the flashback, or nothing at all for that portion of the flashback?


We didn't in the original endings, but with the ECDLC, we got a Thane flashback if we didn't romance anyone else in ME3.

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Bluecansam wrote...

Sethicus333 wrote...

Out of curiosity, if you Thanemanced and stayed faithful, do you get an image of him when you pick your ending and have the flashback, or nothing at all for that portion of the flashback?


We didn't in the original endings, but with the ECDLC, we got a Thane flashback if we didn't romance anyone else in ME3.


There's a flashback for non-romanced Thane too (as well as all of the other dead characters), but I don't know if it's different than the romanced variant.

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LanceSolous13

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For the record, no one did in the original endings. Liara for anyone outside of Kaidan and Ashley.

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So anyway... for people who DID read my long-but-really-not-that-long-if-you're-intelligent-and-like-to-read essay...

Any other thoughts? Counter-arguments? Related bouncing off points?