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V-rcingetorix wrote...

Question, though, why no sentry/combat drones? Pardon me for metagaming, but engineers on the multiplayer use either combat drones (shields, various attack powers like zap, fire, missiles) or sentry turrets (flamethrower, concussive shot or missile). Same for singleplayer, mostly.

On the other hand, limiting the variety of assault capabilities emphasizes the lack of resources, which may be your goal. Cryo blasts, energy-drain and reave capabilities might turn the whole thing into an ad hoc commando story, which I am pretty sure is not your goal.

Cheers, keep up the good work.


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I have the Salik using a combat drone in two of the former chapters and some of the upcoming ones. But you hit the nail on the head with the second part of your question. I've been working with a theme of being cut off from assets, be it communications, equipment, food, etc. And the struggle to survive despite it all.

In my mind... and others may rightly disagree... use of combat drones/sentry turrets would require having the equipment on hand. I think that an omni-tool could assemble a small guided drone for deploying cryo/incendiary bursts, but I have a hard time seeing them constructing a full combat drone, filling it with power systems and offensive hardware, missiles, explosives, detection equipment, holographic emitters and whatever else it needs to function... all on demand. And sentry turrets in the game always involve throwing or firing a piece of equipment onto the field, which then activates. So I have just been operating on the assumption that until the survivors of the Sileya get their hands on that sort of tech, they can't use it. Since Salik showed up with combat drone hardware, he has it at his disposal.

I understand why Bioware set up the classes the way they did... Adepts being pure biotic, Infiltrators being tech/combat, etc... I know it was to give diversity between classes and provide a role for each in the context of the game. But I have shied away from being that strict in my story on the basis of logic. In a more logical and realistic sense, there is nothing preventing a biotic from purchasing or salvaging a tactical cloak, a combat drone, a concussive burst emitter, and some frag grenades and then going to town as a biotic/infiltrator/engineer/soldier combo. So I'm a little less stuck on the game limitations for the purposes of the story.

I guess if you wanted to really put classes to the characters in my story, most of them fit somewhere... Captain Nisaria being a Vanguard, Illitha being a Sentinel (as an engineer with biotic ability), Selura being an Engineer (since she never developed her biotics), etc... Some are a little harder to classify. Prathus, for example, is a former soldier, but uses Overload, a tech power, so I guess he would be classified in the game as an Infiltrator who doesn't use tactical cloak? But the one that doesn't quite fit anywhere is Salik, since he has the signature gear of both an Infiltrator and Engineer... he has used both Combat Drone and Tac Cloak in the story.

But I've drifted off the point. The point I was getting at is: Yes, you're correct that the lack of various forms of attack from the games is based on my running theme of scarcity of resources. But should the characters later pick up such tech, things may change. I won't say one way or the other on that point, to avoid any further spoilers.
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Hah, good.

Loosely paraphrased from the codex in ME2: "attack drones are called flocks, while drones from the opposing forces are called swarms. Each drone uses "hard light" principles, and is generated from individual, or multiple omnitools. All drones are equipped with the software to perform various actions, but require no materials except the energy to create them, and the programming for their purpose."

I think the sentry turrets are a non-renewable resource, unless nanotech is being used (similar to the thermal clips for regular weapons). However, I believe the omnitool-created drones are energy based, and therefore operate on energy-matter interaction. Get some software off a fallen trooper, and you're ready to engage.

Of course that might be a problem, especially if it's a mac vs pc firmware issue, but that's what engineers do right? Solve compatibility issues =D

A comment about the wider game/universe, I was surprised at the lack of heavy weapons. In ME2, Shepard has access to half a dozen, more if you pre-ordered. Avalanche, Collector Particle Beam, Arc caster, Missile launcher, grenade launcher, Black Hole gun (pre-order) and my personal favorite: Cain. In ME3, there is almost no heavy weapons usage period.

The reason I bring this up is because I have seen little reference to heavy weapons in your tale. Again, apologies for metagaming, but are you keeping it more in line with the ME3 universe as depicted by the game, or encouraging the desperation of survival?

In any game, I like to collect all weapons, and their lore. Almost as much fun as playing, and reading about the universe behind the game. Call me a geekish packrat :)

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Ah. Thanks! Good note. If I was wrong about combat drones, then I may be able to incorporate one with a little more ease than I originally thought. If they can actually be created by an omni-tool, then as you said, it's only a matter of software. On the other hand, if you're right, then I need to do a fair bit of rewriting on a section of a Chapter I just recently finished and have not yet posted. A perfect example of why I keep myself ahead in writing vs. posting. Image IPB

As to the Heavy Weapons, I believe the answer to that issue will be mentioned around Chapter 26 or 27. But the scarcity of equipment is for a reason. And as I said, eventually some may be found. Or perhaps not. Who can say? Image IPB

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You are mostly right about senty/drones, just a little preoccupied methinks. Don't take my word for it though, I'm good at research (have to be, lol), but not infallible. A good spot for research is the Mass effect wiki, or the codex ingame.

As I said, I love lore in games, and read almost all of it. For me, it makes the universe more immersive, like the Dragon Age universe. There was a lot of good work done fleshing out the DA world, from a history going back several thousand years to details about technology/magic development.

Same for Mass Effect. I've heard complaints about similarities (Geth=demons), but by and large it's pretty good. Asari/elves can live for centuries and have a lot of art, dwarves/krogan are great if prickly warriors and humans fall somewhere in between.

Whether you introduce new weapons, or leave it as is, would be great. This is a universe open to all, but the story is made by the teller. The best part about it is that so many people enjoy it, and I get to read what they write =D=D=D

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Actually I do a fair bit of research on almost everything I write, and fill in the blanks where I feel there are gaps... as with using small drones for Cryo/Incendiary bursts, I figured something has to guide them so they can travel long distances and arc around corners...

But I just looked for info on combat drones, and the wiki doesn't say whether they're mechanical or light-construct at all, and the codex has an entry for drones, but they're for the military version used for recon, sentry duties, etc., and says they're robotic (but does include the note about flocks and swarms). As for the engineer power, it doesn't seem to say one way or the other that I can find. But either way, the minute I thought I might have to rewrite a certain section, a new idea popped into my head, and I like it better and it has no risk of contradicting canon, so I think I'll use it as a substitute anyway. Image IPB

Edit: Actually, the codex in the game doesn't seem to include information on any of the powers. I was looking for info regarding another power and it's not in the ME2 codex anywhere. Which is kind of annoying...

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Actually, your explanation for the cryo/pyro bursts was very good for me. Mass Effect never gave an explanation for that. And I guessed you did research, as you have never said something along the lines of "She felt the Old Magic and responded with a protective spell."

You wouldn't believe how lazy some writers can get :/

I'll see what I can dig up on the drone issue; can't remember where I read it, but I think it's in the ME2 codex. If not, hey, I've been mistaken before.

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V-rcingetorix wrote...

Actually, your explanation for the cryo/pyro bursts was very good for me. Mass Effect never gave an explanation for that. And I guessed you did research, as you have never said something along the lines of "She felt the Old Magic and responded with a protective spell."

You wouldn't believe how lazy some writers can get :/

I'll see what I can dig up on the drone issue; can't remember where I read it, but I think it's in the ME2 codex. If not, hey, I've been mistaken before.


Well, as I said, the new idea I came up with is one I like better and it can't be wrong either way, since it doesn't center around established tech from the codex, so I'll definitely be using it instead. The tech I wanted more info on was centered around another power, but sadly that power isn't in the codex anywhere, apparently, and even the wiki is vague on it. So I guess I'll have to wing it. Image IPB

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Still on schedule, and loving it! So, to anyone reading the story, I can proudly say that Chapter 23 is online. Image IPB

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*spoiler*

Interesting field surgery, American Civil War inspiration? Technique sounded about 1860s-ish, with minie ball lookalike.

Also, bringing in Zaeed on the rest of the crew of the Silera?? Hmmm, interesting development.

Good beginning Indoctrination scene; next should be headaches and buzzing sounds, eh? =D

Did a quick scan for basic class evaluation, and you are indeed doing a bit of cross-training. I kinda wish BioWare had allowed that kind of thing for character development, like in Dragon Age 1. Can you think of all the potential for a cloaked biotic? Or a Vanguard/w adrenaline rush?

Ach veil. I was a little concerned with bringing Zaeed into contact with other characters, but you've done pretty well, so I'll trust your creativeness :)

Until next time.

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I'm glad Zaeed's first contact with another character worked for you. I did a lot of tweaking on that particular scene to get it just so. As for the surgery, that actually could very well have been the inspiration... I definitely see the parallels. But I didn't really have a specific inspiration in mind when I wrote it... was just looking to highlight the scarcity of materials again. :)

And I agree completely that ME would have been a whole different ball game if you could choose the powers for your character ala DA:Origns. But I do understand why they refined them into classes, too. Otherwise most Shepards probably would have turned into Cloaked Nova-Vanguards with Marksman and Adrenaline Rush or what have you. Still, we can dream! :P

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And now, I can present to those of you who are reading my story: Chapter 24! Image IPB

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Incidentally, I appreciate the stop points. Cliffhanger endings are all very well, but when the page simply can't be turned for a week or so, it gets annoying. Having a semi-cliffhanger ending makes it much more readable.

EDIT: spelling

EDIT 2: removed spoilers

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Ah. I just noticed now that you edited to remove the spoilers from your post. While I do appreciate the thought, I didn't think your post was too spoilery. I only sent a PM in response because I felt like my answer, on the other hand, might have been too spoilery.

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Today, first, I'd like to say Happy Halloween for those who celebrate the holiday. Image IPB

And second, for anyone who is following my story, Chapter 25 is now online! Image IPB

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Dances over to FF net

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Lol, no prob. I know a few people that can tell how a movie ends by watching the first 5-10 minutes. Someone like them might be here, so no sense in my giving away any information.


EDIT: okay, here's my two bits.

Interesting addition, bringing in the disliked superior was a good move. As was quoted in ME2, "Rage is a **** of an anesthetic."

Loner brainy individual? I can see why people identify with Illithia. Most people see themselves as highly independent, which is ironic, considering how many actually are :)

Good usage of the omni-tool. Scanning surroundings for usable material is exactly something for which it is made (to my mind). Agh, no way to make that previous sentence pretty. Anyway, it was logical.

Well done.

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Completely understandable. But it will be there whenever you manage to get to it. Real life always comes first. Good luck on your tests. And rehearsals too!

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And now, for the reading pleasure of anyone following my story (or anyone who would like to), I present: Chapter 26! Image IPB

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So that's the drone modification, eh? Making it a modified Predator is logical, but one thing you didn't mention is if it glowed. A big glowing ball over an enemy position might give away something, although you did mention a cloaking mechanism for ground infiltration. Ach veil.

Weapon modding training was *much* smoother, unless it's my imagination again. A quick tutorial always feels more realistic when it occurs during a low-key situation.

*spoiler*

Communicator like the Illusive Man's, eh? The plot thickens; Cerberus site, or Cerberus refugees...which would make Salik a holograph-cloaked human, or another merc for Cerberus...? Cerberus used non-humans to get Shepards body (Liara, Feron) so it doesn't break the lore, hmmm.

One final note on the med room. Good usage of descriptions. Similar evacuations occurred during the Battle of Berlin (esp with Russia advancing from the east). I would have expect a bit more along the lines of programs for omni-tools, though. Most of the doctors I know have books in their shelves; they don't use them, but the books are there. In the future, I'd think this would be reflected as programs left on an OSD or in a box.It would weigh people down (during an evacuation) and the doctors who owned it would have copies already. Just my two bits :)

Until next time

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Thank you as always for your thoughts and comments. I think I did mention in the section where they were preparing that Salik had installed rudimentary stealth technology on that drone.

And on the subject of next time...

Chapter 27 is now online! Image IPB

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Took me a while to get back here, but that's life :)

This chapter (27) has one overall quality that separates it from the others; low-key non-violence. There is no outright combat, no hostility ramping, and the preparations are not tainted with desperation. In other words, it is a rest from the relentless drive that characterized the previous 3-4 chapters, which is good.

You could also think of it as the "calm before the storm." Borrowing from nature always seems to net the best results, timing especially. You know how the air gets very still, the sun gets so hot and sticky until even the cicadas seem muted? That's the idea. Not a tension building, that can come earlier or later, when the thunderheads are either looming in the distance or roiling up just overhead . The one quiet point, just before chaos breaks loose, that's what is difficult to create.

Well done sir :)

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Thank you once again for your comments. Actually, you hit it right on the head, as I mentioned in my Author's Note this Chapter. It was a calm before some upcoming chaos, and I think it was really needed. I think you'll agree after the next several Chapters are up.

And now, I present to anyone following the story: Chapter 28 Image IPB

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Had some time today, so I wandered over here, and lo, there was another chapter!

Hmm, yes, I think I can see what you've been foreshadowing. But, I won't say anything, to avoid spoilers and to make myself look all brainy =D

Excellent scene. Splitting the focus between two groups definitely streamlined the process and allowed more quantitative descriptions. Keeps the series fresh, to change on occasion =D

This is where the Mass Effect series had a strong point; action. Many options, many disadvantages countered by other advantages. Vorcha are really designed like a guerrilla fighter, although it isn't mentioned in the codex. Light armor, fast regen, who doesn't like a vorcha on their team? Besides Zaeed evidently?

Nice job.

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I'd like to sincerely thank everyone who has taken the time to check out my little story, and everyone who has even thought about it! Image IPB

And with that said, I can also say this: Chapter 29 is now online.

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*spoilers*

Reaperized hanar, eh? I'd thought about them, and elcor for that matter, but figured their DNA was used to combine Krogan/Turian Brutes. Y'know, extendable skull, quadruped locomotion. I wonder what a vorcha would be like?

Had to laugh a bit, the Quarian gets a Mattock while Zaeed has been complaining about not having one for the last dozen chapters or so =D Makes me wonder how Zaeed would do with a Harrier, or a Typhoon. Well, probably not a Typhoon, that just isn't his style. Maybe a Prothean Energy Thingy?

The EMP burst for the Cerberus ocular flashbang was a good idea. Interrogating with just pain, though, remember Maelon from ME2? As shown here ( at 31 seconds) "Forced behavior modification always results in mental degradation." With (old) laptops in my bio lab I can make a crude lie detector by measuring pulse, lung capacity and pupil movements. Couldn't a salarian STG, planning for an assault on a Cerberus stronghold have something similar on his omnitool?

Just something I found intriguing =D

And thanks for keeping up with the writing; I get a break this week (Thanksgiving) and am able to read a bit more than I used too. Keep up the good work!

Modifié par V-rcingetorix, 21 novembre 2012 - 08:24 .