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[LPPrince]

Gender would be the VASTLY more intelligent decision to go with keeping.

As much as picking races would be awesome, gender is a must.

[karushna5]

Androme wrote...

How about a larger selection of pre-defined characters? They're all of course almost identical but differ in certain parts of the story and their backgrounds. Imagine DA3 character creation screen, the first thing you have to choose is between these:

<name> - Dwarf male - pre-defined
<name> - Human male/female (optional) - pre-defined
<name> - Dalish elf female - pre-defined
<name> - Kossith male - pre-defined

No that is even worse. I like Dalish guys and why are elves always women choices?? And no playing kossith, Dwarves are great as well and I like female dwarves too. Sex first. Then race and never pre-defined.

[Raydiva]

I rather keep gender choice. When it comes to RPG's I just find it easier to immerse myself into the story when playing as my own gender. This is true, for me at least, when playing table top RPG, computer/console RPGs and MMORPGs.

Fighting games, action games, etc. gender choice doesn't matter as much since you, as your character, is not really making the choices in the story.

[Kidd]

Plaintiff wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

mopotter wrote...

I think this would be sort of interesting for the main character.   I would still want voice actors for the others.  I really would like a specific voice actor for the main characters, male and female, but it would be sort of fun to change their voice for each character i play.

Even in The Sims you have three voice options, and then a slider that changes pitch.  So you could assign three characters all the same voice, but change the sliders so drastically either way that they absolutely sound like three different people.  

No reason why a voice slider wouldn't work, right?

It would have to be a very good one. Most voice sliders I've seen in video games make the PC sound obviously fake and robot-like if you deviate from the default position even slightly.

Soul Calibur 5's is amazing. I wonder if BioWare has any friends in the SC5 dev team willing to leak a few lines of code

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 17 juillet 2012 - 12:53 .

[Brodoteau]

Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

Dear OP:

It depends. Please clarify if selecting 'Race' would mean I get a choice between several races of a single gender, or if it means I would get a choice between several races of varying (though unchangeable) gender.

Because if the latter, if there was a pre-defined dwarven woman, a pre-defined elven man, etc, I'd select having races available as I could still play as either gender.

This was the general idea.  But it seems most people wouldn't want even this because they feel they couldn't identify with the character.   Which, while I understand (and I agree it isn't fair that most games force you to be a male), I do find it somewhat interesting.  Because, really, if you can identify with being a dwarf or an elf or a kossith or some other mythical race that is not human, how does it change that identification if it is female or male? I don't know if I would even really know how to properly role-play a female kossith. 

Are most of the people who are identifying with their character choosing humans?  (I think Dave Gaider said that most people chose the human origin in DAO anyway).  So maybe the option for those that want different races, the options should be human:  male/female and all other origins with pre-defined gender? 

Finally, as many people seem to misinterpret the initial post, I'm not saying that gender should go away.  I wouldn't want Bioware to only have one gender (male or female) for their character (like the Witcher).  And while I recognize that it is possible to have the same VA for each of the origins, and I recognize that its doable, this also seems to be a turn-off for a lot of other people.  I do like the above suggestion of a pre-defined Hawke-type character but you get to pick the background.  Multiple backgrounds (even if done ME style by choice) is I think preferable to just one character type. 

[batlin]

DA2 plays out exactly the same if you're a man or a woman. Hell, even all the romance options are the same. DA:O played out mostly the same if you were a human or an elf, but there WERE differences.

As it pertains to replayability, choosing your race is way more important than choosing your gender was in DA2.

Modifié par batlin, 18 juillet 2012 - 02:11 .

[Plaintiff]

batlin wrote...

DA2 plays out exactly the same if you're a man or a woman. Hell, even all the romance options are the same.

Which is exactly the way things should be. I don't know what you've heard, but women are not very different from men, and homosexual relationships work the same way that heterosexual ones do  

DA:O played out mostly the same if you were a human or an elf, but there WERE differences.

As it pertains to replayability, choosing your race is way more important than choosing your gender was in DA2.

How is replayability relevent? The crux of the argument in this thread seems to be that people want to make characters that are representative of their selves.

[Sanguinerin]

I've probably played more female humans than male non-humans, so I would likely sacrifice race over gender. Ideally, I'd love both options to be present.

Direwolf0294 wrote...

For me being able to pick your race would be worthless if you couldn't pick your gender. I still don't see why we can't have both and a fully voiced PC though. You could still only have two VA's (one for male, one for female) and easily come up with a reason for an elf sounding like a human. It all comes down to what the origin stories are. Playing as an Orlaisian city elf who has the same French accent as an Orlaisian human makes sense. Playing as a dwarf merchant who's spent most of their life on the surface traveling Orlais and who has an Orlaisian accent makes sense.

BioWare did shoot themselves in the foot a bit when making the Dalish have those Irish/Welsh accents because it means playing a Dalish elf would be harder to implement but they could easily just say that it was only that particular clan who had those accents and the Dalish clan your character is with has French accents because they've spent a lot of time in Orlais. Or they could just retcon the elves again, which I'm actually hoping they do with at least their appearance because they looked stupid in DA2.

Okay, I skimmed the thread, but I kind of wanted to add on to this, so someone could have suggested this already. Let's say there was a Dalish origin. You could still be that same elf that grew up in an Orlesian city (hence the same French accent as other Orlesians), but before the game started you escaped to a Dalish clan and started learning their ways. The accent would still be present, so no additional voices are needed, and in a way it could be a good starter position to learn more about the Dalish, because you're new to the clan and trying to adapt to their way of life.