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GodlessPaladin wrote...

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Everyone should have to be exceptional players to achieve success.
If someone can complete Platinum scoring less than 30k. That's just not right.


Amen!


Well, whether it should or shouldn't be so, I can at least confirm that carrying is a possibility on Platinum.  For example, on a failed attempt, I got to wave 9 Platinum with a player who said that they had never played ME3 multiplayer before.


i heard you were running around running up the score even on wave 11 and not reviving anyone lol just saying

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Even though I agree that it should take a whole coordinated team to beat Platinum I dont think it'll happen

as already stated before, they wanted platinum to be a challenge, but one that still people enjoy

without taking 6 more months to balance / create new things , this is the easiest way of doing it

if you start adding more health, armor, shields etc at this point it's just pointless

to get the type of perfect difficulty you would hvae to make some AI changes or new units etc

that unfortunately probably won't happen anytime soon though I would love a new enemy type

As long as it's reasonably harder than gold I'll be happy

I do hope that if you -do- carry a game, you better be playing pretty damn awesome

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GodlessPaladin wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

blacksheepD wrote...
Everyone should have to be exceptional players to achieve success.
If someone can complete Platinum scoring less than 30k. That's just not right.


Amen!


Well, whether it should or shouldn't be so, I can at least confirm that carrying is a possibility on Platinum.  For example, on a failed attempt, I got to wave 9 Platinum with a player who said that they had never played ME3 multiplayer before.


Did you get a chance to check out the new gear mods we'll be getting Tuesday?

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GP how many Banshees/phantoms did you see on the map at one time?

Also I wonder how bloodlust will hold up on platinum. On gold it makes Vorcha one of the tankiest classes, but with higher damage intakes from all enemies they'll probably have to camp cover just as much as human with full fitness.

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upinya slayin wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

blacksheepD wrote...
Everyone should have to be exceptional players to achieve success.
If someone can complete Platinum scoring less than 30k. That's just not right.


Amen!


Well, whether it should or shouldn't be so, I can at least confirm that carrying is a possibility on Platinum. For example, on a failed attempt, I got to wave 9 Platinum with a player who said that they had never played ME3 multiplayer before.


i heard you were running around running up the score even on wave 11 and not reviving anyone lol just saying


Then that revive medal I got (as demonstrated by the photo of the victory screen) seems awfully mysterious.  Rumors are often wrong or misleading.  Don't believe everything you hear.  Indeed, when we failed, it was because I got sync killed while trying to revive everyone. <_<

Perhaps what you heard was simply a distorted and misinformed perspective on the following. Whenever I could I covered players so they could revive in the middle of nasty situations rather than reviving myself, since most anyone can press the A button but I know I can cover better than most (particularly with the crowd control potential and wallhack awareness of the Krysae GI). And I wouldn't jump in to revive if it wasn't safe to do so, I would clear out enemies threatening the area first (the simple reality is that it's not prudent for me to seriously risk my consumables in order to revive a player who I can't expect to be able to clutch a wave).  Moreover, I was often on the opposite side of the map from the rest of the team, attempting to split or flank the enemy, or make sure I was aware of the positions of all enemies on the map (I can view 4 or 5 spawns at a time in some positions as a GI with extended range Hunter Mode vision.  For example, from the small control room I can see the "nook" spawn, the second floor ammo box spawn, the dark room spawn, the hallway spawn, the basement spawn, and some of the landing pad spawn.  The only spawn I can't see from there is the raised platform overlooking the landing pad).

At the same time, I *got* revived only like twice myself.  So I probably revived more than twice as much as I got revived.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 16 juillet 2012 - 12:20 .


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GodlessPaladin wrote...

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I skipped ahead after page 3, but I was wondering if you think this might be farmable doing W/G/P with Asari Adepts. Cover behind desks in the downstairs room for banshees and stasis for phantoms?


I guess it depends what you mean by farmable.  I think it's doable.  I suppose it's just a question of how lazy you can be while doing it.  At least I don't think FBWG will be something 5 year olds can get 2nd place on the scoreboards on by handing them a controller and telling them to mash B for 20 minutes (Yes, I actually ran a test like this).


"Just please don't tap (A) okay??? ^_^"

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GodlessPaladin wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

blacksheepD wrote...
Everyone should have to be exceptional players to achieve success.
If someone can complete Platinum scoring less than 30k. That's just not right.


Amen!


Well, whether it should or shouldn't be so, I can at least confirm that carrying is a possibility on Platinum. For example, on a failed attempt, I got to wave 9 Platinum with a player who said that they had never played ME3 multiplayer before.


i heard you were running around running up the score even on wave 11 and not reviving anyone lol just saying


Then that revive medal I got (seen in the photo) seems awfully mysterious.

upinya slayin wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

blacksheepD wrote...
Everyone should have to be exceptional players to achieve success.
If someone can complete Platinum scoring less than 30k. That's just not right.


Amen!


Well, whether it should or shouldn't be so, I can at least confirm that carrying is a possibility on Platinum. For example, on a failed attempt, I got to wave 9 Platinum with a player who said that they had never played ME3 multiplayer before.


i heard you were running around running up the score even on wave 11 and not reviving anyone lol just saying


Then that revive medal seems awfully mysterious.

Perhaps what you heard is a distorted version of the following. Whenever I could I covered players so they could revive in the middle of nasty situations rather than reviving myself, since most anyone can press the A button but I know I can cover better than most (particularly with the crowd control potential and wallhack awareness of the Krysae GI). And I wouldn't jump in to revive if it wasn't safe to do so, I would clear out enemies threatening the area first.


i wasnt there, just saying, also you wre yelling and cursing at your team. thats what people were telling me

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You guys talk about Vanguards being marginalized, and maybe that's true generally

But I think the Battlemaster is really going to shine in Platinum with a level IV Cyclonic modulator. It'll take a bit longer and you'll need to spec them to stagger Phantoms with Charge, but if you drop a Reegar on them they shouldn't be really afraid of anything but Brutes.

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Khuutra wrote...

You guys talk about Vanguards being marginalized, and maybe that's true generally

But I think the Battlemaster is really going to shine in Platinum with a level IV Cyclonic modulator. It'll take a bit longer and you'll need to spec them to stagger Phantoms with Charge, but if you drop a Reegar on them they shouldn't be really afraid of anything but Brutes.


Banshees? 

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upinya slayin wrote...

i wasnt there, just saying, also you wre yelling and cursing at your team. thats what people were telling me


Now that I believe...

If my team sucked that badly too I sure as hell wouldn't be complimenting them! :?

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upinya slayin wrote...
i wasnt there, just saying, also you wre yelling and cursing at your team. thats what people were telling me


Okay, now I know you're just making BS up and trolling.  I never cursed at anyone.  I was yelling occasionally though, because yelling was the only way for communication to take place in such a loud room with players placed 15 feet apart from each other.  I'm sure Cal can testify that this is the case.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 16 juillet 2012 - 12:32 .


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Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Khuutra wrote...

You guys talk about Vanguards being marginalized, and maybe that's true generally

But I think the Battlemaster is really going to shine in Platinum with a level IV Cyclonic modulator. It'll take a bit longer and you'll need to spec them to stagger Phantoms with Charge, but if you drop a Reegar on them they shouldn't be really afraid of anything but Brutes.


Banshees? 



I'm not clear on if this is the case or not, but I'm under the impression right now that Banshees are unable to grab you when they're down to just their Armor. I got one down to its armor and stood there headbutting it for ten solid seconds - and it just slapped me over and over - until a Brute showed up and made me skedaddle.

I mean I need to actually test that, but this was a Gold match, it's not like it was waiting for me to do something else.

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this is just crap. people who dont live near comicon and or cant get there cause they have work or live in anther county are getting screwed over as per usual.

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Khuutra wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Khuutra wrote...

You guys talk about Vanguards being marginalized, and maybe that's true generally

But I think the Battlemaster is really going to shine in Platinum with a level IV Cyclonic modulator. It'll take a bit longer and you'll need to spec them to stagger Phantoms with Charge, but if you drop a Reegar on them they shouldn't be really afraid of anything but Brutes.


Banshees? 



I'm not clear on if this is the case or not, but I'm under the impression right now that Banshees are unable to grab you when they're down to just their Armor. I got one down to its armor and stood there headbutting it for ten solid seconds - and it just slapped me over and over - until a Brute showed up and made me skedaddle.

I mean I need to actually test that, but this was a Gold match, it's not like it was waiting for me to do something else.


I'm pretty sure that's untrue. 

But according to Ashen earth and after trying it a few times myself i believe they'reunable to grab you when their Teleporting aura is down and they're just flining Space balls and novas at you. 

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Sniper21987 wrote...

this is just crap. people who dont live near comicon and or cant get there cause they have work or live in anther county are getting screwed over as per usual.




Do you expect them to hold 100s of different comic cons so everyone can have an oppurtunity to reach it? 

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Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Khuutra wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Khuutra wrote...

You guys talk about Vanguards being marginalized, and maybe that's true generally

But I think the Battlemaster is really going to shine in Platinum with a level IV Cyclonic modulator. It'll take a bit longer and you'll need to spec them to stagger Phantoms with Charge, but if you drop a Reegar on them they shouldn't be really afraid of anything but Brutes.


Banshees? 



I'm not clear on if this is the case or not, but I'm under the impression right now that Banshees are unable to grab you when they're down to just their Armor. I got one down to its armor and stood there headbutting it for ten solid seconds - and it just slapped me over and over - until a Brute showed up and made me skedaddle.

I mean I need to actually test that, but this was a Gold match, it's not like it was waiting for me to do something else.


I'm pretty sure that's untrue. 

But according to Ashen earth and after trying it a few times myself i believe they'reunable to grab you when their Teleporting aura is down and they're just flining Space balls and novas at you. 


Interesting.  That might be worth doing some testing on, if anyone's willing to take the time to do that.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 16 juillet 2012 - 12:23 .


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Platinum seems easy mode, my brother in law was in one of those teams who completed platinum and hes a complete garbage player.

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The Waffle Cat wrote...

Platinum seems easy mode, my brother in law was in one of those teams who completed platinum and hes a complete garbage player.


Yeah, this just goes to confirm that carrying is possible on Platinum.

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GodlessPaladin wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Khuutra wrote...

I'm not clear on if this is the case or not, but I'm under the impression right now that Banshees are unable to grab you when they're down to just their Armor. I got one down to its armor and stood there headbutting it for ten solid seconds - and it just slapped me over and over - until a Brute showed up and made me skedaddle.

I mean I need to actually test that, but this was a Gold match, it's not like it was waiting for me to do something else.


I'm pretty sure that's untrue. 

But according to Ashen earth and after trying it a few times myself i believe they'reunable to grab you when their Teleporting aura is down and they're just flining Space balls and novas at you. 


Interesting.  That might be worth doing some testing on, if anyone's willing to take the time to do that.

Even if it's down to them needing their teleporting aura, they don't seem to bring it back up when you stay in melee range - they jsut try to beat the Hell out of you. Three Battlemasters should be able to handle three Banshees at a time as long as they have any recharge bonuses at all for Charge.

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GodlessPaladin wrote...

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Platinum seems easy mode, my brother in law was in one of those teams who completed platinum and hes a complete garbage player.


Yeah, this just goes to confirm that carrying is possible on Platinum.


Wrll apparently he got 100k ish score ( what he told me, I dont buy it) but when I played with him I tripled or doubled his score as hes a little little little bit better than the average gold random -.-

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Khuutra wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

Khuutra wrote...

I'm not clear on if this is the case or not, but I'm under the impression right now that Banshees are unable to grab you when they're down to just their Armor. I got one down to its armor and stood there headbutting it for ten solid seconds - and it just slapped me over and over - until a Brute showed up and made me skedaddle.

I mean I need to actually test that, but this was a Gold match, it's not like it was waiting for me to do something else.


I'm pretty sure that's untrue. 

But according to Ashen earth and after trying it a few times myself i believe they'reunable to grab you when their Teleporting aura is down and they're just flining Space balls and novas at you. 


Interesting.  That might be worth doing some testing on, if anyone's willing to take the time to do that.

Even if it's down to them needing their teleporting aura, they don't seem to bring it back up when you stay in melee range - they jsut try to beat the Hell out of you. Three Battlemasters should be able to handle three Banshees at a time as long as they have any recharge bonuses at all for Charge.


Yea i've noticed that too. Excpet rather than beat the hell out of me they keep Nova'ing. If they ever fix rage on the KVG i can't wait to beat the crap out of a banshee with headbutts. 

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good job GP and thx for the info

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I have a feeling that Rage will never be "fixed" on the Battlemaster because it would present so many balance issues. If Rage worked, Battlemasters could have up to 120% Damage Reduction after a Charge, which is so high as to be effectively invincible. Every mode would be essentially the same for them, so long as they could kill the instagibbers.

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Congrats man, well done.

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GodlessPaladin wrote...

Mysterious Stranger 0.0 wrote...

I'm pretty sure that's untrue. 

But according to Ashen earth and after trying it a few times myself i believe they'reunable to grab you when their Teleporting aura is down and they're just flining Space balls and novas at you. 


Interesting.  That might be worth doing some testing on, if anyone's willing to take the time to do that.


That was the case at one point... it was a bug which either was fixed with the patch for Rebellion or will be fixed soon (I can never keep the patches clear).

When you get close to her, she tries to melee you - and that's when the sync kill chance comes into play. Either she does a regular swipe melee, or tries to sync kill you.

When she's teleporting around, she's just closing on you faster - she'll end up in the same sort of melee/sync kill thing... but while she's in her teleporting state there's no cooldowns on her melee/sync kill so you're more likely to get tagged at that point. :happy: