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[Jadebaby]

"The panelists at SDCC specifically said that the "breath" scene was put in the game to allow gamers who wanted some hope to have it. The "last gasp" comment reflects one a few interpretations, none of them prescribed."

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5:47
Q: What's the motivation with the teaser survival of Shepard in one ending?
5:47
Sylvia said "We were looking at all the endings, and we were wondering if they were TOO bleak. For fans who scraped every last thing off the galaxy map, we wanted to give them a little beacon of hope."
5:48
"It was really hard to let go of Shepard for us too, so it was kinda just for us too."
5:48
Ley said "We did make it ambiguous on purpose..."

Hepler: "It could just be a last gasp before death, yeah."




So there you go folks, the only reason that breath scene exists is because they wanted to outright kill Shepard in every ending, but new they'd be flamed for it. So instead, they left players with a speculative feeling that Shepard somehow survives, that there is hope. When in reality, there isn't.

By making it ambiguous it allowed them to do two things that would normally contradict each other:
1) Give players some hope that there is a possible ending where Shepard survives.
2) Not convey any sort of "concrete" evidence that s/he survives as to not betray their artistic vision.

This is the reason I feared was behind the scene, which is why I could never view this breath scene positively. (Seriously I'm usually a huge optimist)

I take the writer's intent as canon, and it's clear their intent here was to kill Shepard off.

SO BE IT!

[Bill Casey]

Nope...
Shepard lived...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 15 juillet 2012 - 07:17 .

[that guy2012]

inb4 @#$%storm

[Warp92]

Pretty sure he is alive

[FoxholeHunter]

No she didn't.

GORDON'S ALIVE!?!?!

[Bill Casey]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I take the writer's intent as canon

So much wrong with this...

[Jadebaby]

Even the file name.

Shepalive or whatever.

That only suggests that Shep is alive at that moment. Because, you know, you have to be alive to take a breath.

If it was called shepsurvives. Then that could be taken a bit better.

[Jadebaby]

Bill Casey wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I take the writer's intent as canon

So much wrong with this...

Why? It's their story..

[Conniving_Eagle]

FREE SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE!!!

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[chemiclord]

Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to introduce you to Mr. Hepler:

Problem?

Ya know the saying, "Don't feed the trolls?"  You shouldn't be feeding ones from Bioware, either.

Modifié par chemiclord, 15 juillet 2012 - 07:22 .

[The Angry One]

Basically it's cowardly writing. They don't have the guts to outright kill Shepard.

Then again, they kill Shepard in such a ridiculous way in destroy, and overall Shepard dies collaborating with the enemy that I'd argue they don't have the right.

I've no problems with Shepard dying a hero. Thing is, Shepard doesn't die a hero. At best, Shepard dies a collaborator. At worst, Shepard dies an absolute moron (how about not walking into an explosion!).

[sporeian]

SPECULATIONS FOR EVERYBODIES!

[Jadebaby]

chemiclord wrote...

Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to introduce you to Mr. Hepler:



Problem?

Yea, his skin looks a bit... decomposed.

[JDee3]

*sigh*.. I can't.. I just can't. ME3 ended with me and Anderson on the Citadel watching Reapers get ****ed up and Shepard being found passed out next to a dead Anderson and taken to a hospital where all his friends waited till he woke up in his hospital bed

[Sweawm]

I honestly don't care what the SDCC Panel has to say about it. I don't really care at all. Remember when stories in media used to be self contained and every plot line and question had to be resolved in same book/film/game?

That aside, I simply believe that Bioware will continue to chip away at each other ending (Leviathan DLC crushes Control Ending, since Reapers can rebel). Now, they want to take away all positives about Destroy, until they have successfully shoved Synthesis down all our throats, true to their 'artistic vision' that Synthesis is the desired 'perfect' ending.

[sporeian]

I just figured it out!

Shepard pulls a Jesus Christ: Super Martyr at the end of ME3
Shepard=Jesus

so therefor... Shepard can return from the dead.... again.

[Bill Casey]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I take the writer's intent as canon

So much wrong with this...

Why? It's their story..

Multiple people worked on it and likely have differeing intentions with the breathe scene. Writers sometimes don't know why they did something, and can't stay consistent when discussing what they meant. Ray Bradbury was notorious for this...

Stories are meant to be experienced, not written. If they intended Shepard to die, their intention failed, because what they actually wrote was quite clearly Shepard living...

Actually, they wrote Shepard being indoctrinated but that's a whole other discussion...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 15 juillet 2012 - 07:27 .

[estebanus]

JDee3 wrote...

*sigh*.. I can't.. I just can't. ME3 ended with me and Anderson on the Citadel watching Reapers get ****ed up and Shepard being found passed out next to a dead Anderson and taken to a hospital where all his friends waited till he woke up in his hospital bed

No it didn't. ME3 ended with Shepard being forced into choosing the fate of everyone and everything, and had to make the right choice, even if it sucked. Which it did.

[clos]

Man. The writing for ME3 has been awful overall. Sure, some missions like Rannoch/Tuchanka and some touching moment like Mordin singing and the like. But when you put all the good vs. the bad together ME3 is just awful writing. I could go on to list all the bad parts of it but that's just gonna start another back and forth that's pretty pointless.

I just hope Bioware doesn't have any mirrors in their building because I don't understand how anyone could look at themselves and be proud after having destroyed the franchise.

[Mcfly616]

Palm.....










Face?




Yeah....this logic is just ass backwards....


Shepard lives....as specifically said in the official guide....not to mention Bioware themselves.....these panelists are of no importance....they're nobody's that get thrown to the wolves because Casey and Mac arent going to lol

Let's use common sense here folks....its not a last gasp....he "LIVES"... It's in there to symbolize his survival in that specific ending, while also leaving what he does afterwards up to the imagination.....(hence why my plaque never went up, the entire ending has symbolism in it).....some people are just incapable of understanding what is implied in movies and games these days....I guess..
Which is why those people that need every single detail explained to them word for word, are the same people that bash the game


They didn't throw a last gasp in just to reiterate the fact that he died....asinine logic.....laughable lol

[1483749283]

It's just pure wishful thinking to say that the survive ending has a future in a Bioware produced game or DLC. Just the fact that it is unreachable for pure single player folks rules it out as having any canonicity potential whatsoever. At best, they'll leave it ambiguous in future games.

[The Angry One]

clos wrote...

Man. The writing for ME3 has been awful overall. Sure, some missions like Rannoch/Tuchanka and some touching moment like Mordin singing and the like. But when you put all the good vs. the bad together ME3 is just awful writing. I could go on to list all the bad parts of it but that's just gonna start another back and forth that's pretty pointless.

I just hope Bioware doesn't have any mirrors in their building because I don't understand how anyone could look at themselves and be proud after having destroyed the franchise.

You honestly think they care? They have their money, they have enough people buying their games from their new CoD crowd target audience. They're not in it for the sake of the games or the fans.

[JDee3]

estebanus wrote...

JDee3 wrote...

*sigh*.. I can't.. I just can't. ME3 ended with me and Anderson on the Citadel watching Reapers get ****ed up and Shepard being found passed out next to a dead Anderson and taken to a hospital where all his friends waited till he woke up in his hospital bed

No it didn't. ME3 ended with Shepard being forced into choosing the fate of everyone and everything, and had to make the right choice, even if it sucked. Which it did.

I'm not even sure which one was the right choice. I would say the refusal but then everyone dies. They could have did something like Halo Reach with that there. The control is sketchy. The destroy.. my Shepard would never sacrifice EDI and the Geth. Synthesis is just creepy.. I can't

[estebanus]

clos wrote...

Man. The writing for ME3 has been awful overall. Sure, some missions like Rannoch/Tuchanka and some touching moment like Mordin singing and the like. But when you put all the good vs. the bad together ME3 is just awful writing. I could go on to list all the bad parts of it but that's just gonna start another back and forth that's pretty pointless.

I just hope Bioware doesn't have any mirrors in their building because I don't understand how anyone could look at themselves and be proud after having destroyed the franchise.

Just because you think the franchise is destroyed doesn't mean it actually is.