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will we complete the allied community goal?


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#51
Karnor00

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Lividliver wrote...

Schneemann wrote...


Therefore I'd say the real question if we complete the community goal is not if we get anything together, but only if BW wants a success or not.


True,given the 3 million banshee benchmark they had for a previous operation,the only one we failed so far,lol.I really doubt their internal stats at that time showed us capable of wiping out that many banshees over the course of a weekend for them to set such a goal.


The thing is that if we couldn't kill 3 million banshees then how likely are we to get 400k full reaper extractions?  Assuming we killed 7.5 banshees per mission then if we complete the current objective then we would also have met the previous one (but we didn't).

And thats assuming every reaper mission is a full extraction.  In reality there will be a lot of failures and partial extractions.  Plus, while you may not get 7.5 banshees per bronze mission, you'll get more per silver, and certainly a lot more per gold.

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dima_che

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No

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Been enjoying some solo bronze reaper FBW action. I figured it would be better that way, spread out our players, get more games being simultaneously completed. Lift grenades are instant killstreaks on bronze, it's great.

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I'm really frustrated. Every single time yesterday at least one got insta-killed in the last few seconds. Gold, Silver, Bronze... didn't matter. I did less than 5 full extractions altogether.

Really worried we might not pull this through.

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xsmiv wrote...

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I'm a bit bothered by the number of people who like to enter the zone at the last possible second though. You're not being a pro by doing this, you're just being an ass...

Only if they're too late.  Otherwise, it can make sense to spend 90 seconds drawing enemies to the other side of the map, as opposed to defending a relatively difficult-to-hold extraction point (e.g., Ghost, Jade, Reactor) for two minutes.

I'm not talking about people who join the zone when there's 10-20 seconds left, I'm all in favor of kiting away the enemy. I'm talking about people who stay close but only enter the lz when there's at most 1 second left.

Made another full extraction on gold with a bunch of randoms just now. Might do a few more bronze games before the time's up...

Modifié par TheOneMavado, 15 juillet 2012 - 11:54 .


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I don't think it matters whether we pull it off or not. Pretty sure this is one of those "You're supposed to fail" operations that we're going to fail whether we succeed or not.

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100RenegadePoints wrote...

400k full extractions sounds like too much... Is there an estimation how many full extractions that would be per player?


khannoir wrote...


It means the entire player base has to execute 400k successful full extractions so between 400k and 1.6mil matches with full extractions. i.e. if the top 25% of the player base in skill each has 12 successful (on average) full extractions then everyone will get it regardless of how the lower 75% does...

(all values are approximate with an estimate
of 700k active MPers (across all platforms which is based on n7 rankings and may actually be a low-ball due to those who refute the need to promote), and yes this accounts for the possibility of the top 25% only playing with themselves. If every member of the top 25 ONLY did extractions with the other 75% then it would be as few as 4
successful extractions) i.e. This wasn't that difficult as long as people tried...)

edit:Im not saying that N7 has anything to do with skill its just how you can figure out how many players are actually playing...example a lvl 120 might be in the top 1% category of skill but wouldnt have been counted in the 700k active players due to not going up in levels over the last week thus skewing the number in favor of the player base.

a Mod could probably tell us more exact numbers (if they are allowed to mention them).

Modifié par khannoir, 15 juillet 2012 - 12:16 .


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SkreeMalicious wrote...
Unlikely.
They will need a bigger carrot to dangle


This.

Do you remember when the challenge was to kill XXX-thousand banshees? for community goal, and people gave less than 1 **** about it. Then the next week, the goal was to kill XXX-thousand phantoms for community goal - only this time the victory pack would have an N7 Promotional weapon in it too.

As i recall, we as a community killed more than twice the number needed to succeed.

This only goes to show that the community can handle pretty much any challenge being thrown at it within reason. If the prize is right.

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ABjerre wrote...

SkreeMalicious wrote...
Unlikely.
They will need a bigger carrot to dangle


This.

Do you remember when the challenge was to kill XXX-thousand banshees? for community goal, and people gave less than 1 **** about it. Then the next week, the goal was to kill XXX-thousand phantoms for community goal - only this time the victory pack would have an N7 Promotional weapon in it too.

As i recall, we as a community killed more than twice the number needed to succeed.

This only goes to show that the community can handle pretty much any challenge being thrown at it within reason. If the prize is right.


Phantoms are MUCH easier than banshees to farm.

This challenge is ridiculous as the great majority of the players don't even know that only full extractions count.  Meaning PUGs are at a massive disadvantage because all it takes is one person to screw up and the entire match was for nothing.  With Darth Morinths using The Force to murder-rape people at distance or even through walls it just gets that much more frustrating.  In fact for any skilled player it's better to solo bronze matches over and over than to play a real match.

Let me repeat that for emphasis.  It's better to solo than to play with other people.  In multiplayer.  Tell me how that's not retarded.

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400 Full extractions are 10-15 Million Banshees (only full extractions counted)
If only 50% of all reaper runs would be a Full extractions it would be like 20-30K Banshees that were killed including all fails for the weekend.

I think BW didnt even think of that and because of that misshap we know now that Allied goals are just something BW decides if we win or not. Its not based on real numbers.


Allied goals are just a joke now.

Modifié par sp33dd34m0n, 15 juillet 2012 - 12:37 .


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 I dug my "magic 8 ball" out to ask...it suggests that you ask again later. Hope this helps

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400k is a lot, i'm not sure if we 'll make ut. After my gold extraction i went to silver reapers, because i still want to hoard some creds while helping the goal. Hardly any full extractions. I'm not gonna do bronze until i reach my million cred mark

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400K full extractions on Reapers? I don't think so. There's about twenty ways I can think of to fail even in wave 11. Magnet hands, dying at the last second, and playing of FB Jade are just the most obvious ones...

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If we all played 15 minute Bronze games, probably. I've been playing on silver and we've gotten partial everytime. -____-

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Bronze is too boring. :(

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I have got 3 on gold and 3 on bronze yet....mofo power cut spoilt my wave 11 on silver . Origin id - Cenationwarrior . Add me to play me3 multi !!

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I think I had around 5-6 full extractions yesterday. I'm trying to play gold to save up creds, but i've also sprinkled some silver in there for the weekend operation. I'm on the PS3 though so i'm sure there are a bunch of players who have no idea anything is going on. I solve that by hosting games and picking reapers

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TheOneMavado

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sp33dd34m0n wrote...
400 Full extractions are 10-15 Million Banshees (only full extractions counted)

Bronze counts as well you know (much fewer Banshees). Pretty sure it's doable, or was maybe (isn't  there just 1 hour left or so now?).

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Rhayak wrote...

Excuse me but.... it doesn't say "full" on the bioware blog.

Anyway, i've done quite a few full extractions so far on Silver.... Firebase Jade bug-permitting....


No it doesn´t state that, but since the Squad-goal is "at least one squad member", and Allied-goal is 400.000 squads, it clearly means the hole squad of any initial size.

Squad Goal: Extract at least one squad member against Reapers on Gold difficulty
Allied Goal: Extract 400,000 squads against Reapers on ANY difficulty


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Shotgun Nova

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Me and my buddies have done a good 20+ games getting full extractions. Unknown/Reapers/Gold.

I'm getting a little sick of fighting reapers to be honest.

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Brotkrumen wrote...

Nothing would be more discouraging than a failed allied goal.


If only we had some new DLC to console ourselves with... :whistle:

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If we do... thanks for the medigel, community...
if we dont... i am not dissapoint, or susprise

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Grub Killer8016

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Maybe. If we didn't we came super close. At least I'll be getting a commendation pack.

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SkreeMalicious wrote...

Unlikely.
They will need a bigger carrot to dangle

And its 400k against reapers on gold for allied goal
Any-difficulty is just for squad goal

It's 400K full extractions reapers on any difficulty and gold extraction (lone survivor or better) vs reapers. Piece of cake.

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Mgamerz wrote...

SkreeMalicious wrote...

Unlikely.
They will need a bigger carrot to dangle

And its 400k against reapers on gold for allied goal
Any-difficulty is just for squad goal

It's 400K full extractions reapers on any difficulty and gold extraction (lone survivor or better) vs reapers. Piece of cake.


As cake as it is, you have fairly selfish community members who have stated multiple times they would not contribute but instead go off and hoard credits. Not saying it's bad to stock up for the Earth DLC release, but to jeopardize the whole communtiy when a reaper gold speedrun for credits isn't even that hard....I doubt we made it. Also, PUGS can be the devil.