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[devSin]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

But I digress, point is they don't fake the QA's, consumers just suck at confrontation.  The internet is all talk, most people on these forums would be absolutely ashamed of themselves if they acted the same way in public, and I know you all know it.  So thats why any of these pannels Bioware goes to they never get many good critical questions.

The questions were actually screened. People walked down the line and determined whether the question was appropriate or not (even a question about why there was a thematic disconnect between the ending and the rest of the game was apparently rejected as "inappropriate").

[im commander shep]

We learnt this about the Epilogue sequences.

"I want to walk you through what we wanted to do with the Epilogue sequence 200-300 years in the future"

"After the detonation, what does the Galaxy look like days after. There's a sense of a tentative truce in the Synthesis version, and kind of going home."

"Then we have months to years, and that's Survivors, so it's about your ME2 henchmen, the tertiary characters and closing those off"

"After that we went to years to decades"

"We look at what the various planets look like 10-15 years in the future. This was the coolest part to me, and we got to do an image I really wanted to do, a Krogan baby"

"For me, my personal playthrough, the Genophage campaign was really important to me."


"So as a fan it was really powerful for me to see the baby born and know what that means to the Krogan"

"After that we went into centuries, two hundred three hundred years. We got to do some really cool design work on that stuff.

So does this make what happened in the ending epilogue canon or an example of what could happen as they said 100-200 years in the future?

Speculations anyone?

[im commander shep]

bump

[Dendio1]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Did we get anything on why Starbrat exists?

Or why we can't save Thane despite everything ME2 built up to a cure.

Or why Jacob cheats on you regardless of anything you do?

Or why ALL of the Mass Effect 2 Romances are painfully screwed?

Or why we can't bring up the fact that EDI and Joker are COEXISTING or the fact that you made peace between the Quarians and the Geth to Starbrat?

Did we get ANYTHING productive out of SDCC at all?

I wish the OP was there. The people who go to these things always have the most uninspiring questions. Even at the height of retake the fans failed to ask good questions

[WarGriffin]

Sweawm wrote...

Nope: Screened Questions for all! 

BW and EA aren't stupid, they aren't gonna go to a panel and say something they know will get them ripped apart by angry Fans!

[Critchley2010]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Sweawm wrote...

Nope: Screened Questions for all! 

I get a crack out of that.  IRL most of the nerds who are passionate enough to desire making a big public scene about it in their head are too cowardly to actually do it when push comes to shove.  They get up there in front of a crowd and choke on their words.  The ones that do actually have the courage probably mostly know they have better things to do then even bother waiting in 2 hour lines going to any of the pannels since all it seems Bioware want to talk about these days is multiplayer and that ****ty anime and action figures and blah blah blah blah MERCHANDISING MERCHANDISING MERCHANDISING.  But I digress, point is they don't fake the QA's, consumers just suck at confrontation.  The internet is all talk, most people on these forums would be absolutely ashamed of themselves if they acted the same way in public, and I know you all know it.  So thats why any of these pannels Bioware goes to they never get many good critical questions. 

Well said.

[Esquin]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Did we get anything on why Starbrat exists?

Or why we can't save Thane despite everything ME2 built up to a cure.

Or why Jacob cheats on you regardless of anything you do?

Or why ALL of the Mass Effect 2 Romances are painfully screwed?

Or why we can't bring up the fact that EDI and Joker are COEXISTING or the fact that you made peace between the Quarians and the Geth to Starbrat?

Did we get ANYTHING productive out of SDCC at all?

1. The Starbrat exists to try to be a bridge between organics and synthetics for it's creators, to avoid the conflict that it believes will always exist. I imagine this is how the first reaper came into existence, you can't have a true bridge between synthetics and organics without first creating a being that has the knowledge and soul of organics as well as the capacity for infinite expansion of synthetics. 

2. No it didn't. In fact it all pointed to a man ready to die, who felt he deserved it even. He accepted his fate.

3. Jacob is not a decent person. He's a player.

4. They have other stuff to do. Why did Wrex never come and fight beside you again? 

5. This could be expanded to include a lot of other conversations that didn't happen. And comes down to how big do you want the game to be? Yeah they could have included it, but the answer would have been similar to it's other answers. "No, the peace will not last."

6. Having said all that. No.

[LanceSolous13]

Dendio1 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Did we get anything on why Starbrat exists?

Or why we can't save Thane despite everything ME2 built up to a cure.

Or why Jacob cheats on you regardless of anything you do?

Or why ALL of the Mass Effect 2 Romances are painfully screwed?

Or why we can't bring up the fact that EDI and Joker are COEXISTING or the fact that you made peace between the Quarians and the Geth to Starbrat?

Did we get ANYTHING productive out of SDCC at all?

I wish the OP was there. The people who go to these things always have the most uninspiring questions. Even at the height of retake the fans failed to ask good questions

I very much wish I was. I would have lied my ass off to them. I've done so before, though, It was a more local of a convention, but none the less.

I'm not afraid of being the Kaleisha Al-Jilani.

[Erixxxx]

Some of us actually want the background stuff on already-released stuff, not just new stuff. Those of us did get something out of this panel. Just saying.

[Zardoc]

Esquin wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Did we get anything on why Starbrat exists?

Or why we can't save Thane despite everything ME2 built up to a cure.

Or why Jacob cheats on you regardless of anything you do?

Or why ALL of the Mass Effect 2 Romances are painfully screwed?

Or why we can't bring up the fact that EDI and Joker are COEXISTING or the fact that you made peace between the Quarians and the Geth to Starbrat?

Did we get ANYTHING productive out of SDCC at all?

2. No it didn't. In fact it all pointed to a man ready to die, who felt he deserved it even. He accepted his fate.

3. Jacob is not a decent person. He's a player.

4. They have other stuff to do. Why did Wrex never come and fight beside you again? 

5. This could be expanded to include a lot of other conversations that didn't happen. And comes down to how big do you want the game to be? Yeah they could have included it, but the answer would have been similar to it's other answers. "No, the peace will not last."

I take it you never romanced Thane, because if you do he becomes pretty much the opposite of how you describe him.

Jacob was a decent person in ME2, before he was thrown away in 3.

I don't recall being able to romance Wrex, but okay.

Still should've been included, even if it just leads to another non argument from the Catalyst.

[Bluumberry]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Or why we can't save Thane despite everything ME2 built up to a cure.

Everyone keeps bringing this up and I still no matter how many times I play through the game get that impression.

[HBC Dresden]

robdunnhill wrote...

i thought they were announcing the leviathan DLC this weekend?

Me too. I guess they were too busy making the DLC to do the extra marketing work. It's understandable, but I just wanted confirmation of both the Omega DLC and Leviathan DLC. And in a way we got it--they mentioned Aria in the novels being the clue for future DLC (Omega) and that pic of the underwater mech (Leviathan).

[forthary]

From what I've pieced together, the only thing new I've seen out of comic-con besides the Play Arts preview figures is something about Big Daddy underwater. I think that's the wrong exhibit though, they're probably talking about the next bioshock game or something.

[flanny]

im commander shep wrote...

We learnt this about the Epilogue sequences.

"I want to walk you through what we wanted to do with the Epilogue sequence 200-300 years in the future"

"After the detonation, what does the Galaxy look like days after. There's a sense of a tentative truce in the Synthesis version, and kind of going home."

"Then we have months to years, and that's Survivors, so it's about your ME2 henchmen, the tertiary characters and closing those off"

"After that we went to years to decades"

"We look at what the various planets look like 10-15 years in the future. This was the coolest part to me, and we got to do an image I really wanted to do, a Krogan baby"

"For me, my personal playthrough, the Genophage campaign was really important to me."


"So as a fan it was really powerful for me to see the baby born and know what that means to the Krogan"

"After that we went into centuries, two hundred three hundred years. We got to do some really cool design work on that stuff.

So does this make what happened in the ending epilogue canon or an example of what could happen as they said 100-200 years in the future?

Speculations anyone?

I wish wrex could have just appeared and said 'don't ****** in my ear and tell me it's raining' 

[BSpud]

Romanced Jacob was anything but "a player" in ME2.

[dayvancowboy1]

does anyone have a link to the actual interview and not the transcript?

[CmndrFisher]

We definately did not get the "big things" as promised by Gamble. Bioware blew a great chance at some positive PR at SDCC.  Instead, they rehashed a lot of the same "we worked hard and Multiplayer is great" mantra. 
Don't get me wrong.  I'm thankful for the EC to a certain degree, but this would have been a great opportunity for Bioware to give the singleplayers somethuing to look forward to.  Instead, all we got were vague hints, a picture and ambiguities.

Personally, I have been hanging around waiting for Single player DLC announcements and I thought we would get something of substance at the SDCC.  But no. alas.

I'm tired of waiting while, MP keeps getting more weekend events and free stuff.  Seems every other week there is something announced for MP.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

They hinted new DLC, which basically confirmed Leviathan according to the leaked files. I was hoping for a trailer though.

[Gruntburner]

Remember kids, if people don't ask the questions you want, they were obviously screened.

[ld1449]

CmndrFisher wrote...

We definately did not get the "big things" as promised by Gamble. Bioware blew a great chance at some positive PR at SDCC.  Instead, they rehashed a lot of the same "we worked hard and Multiplayer is great" mantra. 
Don't get me wrong.  I'm thankful for the EC to a certain degree, but this would have been a great opportunity for Bioware to give the singleplayers somethuing to look forward to.  Instead, all we got were vague hints, a picture and ambiguities.

Personally, I have been hanging around waiting for Single player DLC announcements and I thought we would get something of substance at the SDCC.  But no. alas.

I'm tired of waiting while, MP keeps getting more weekend events and free stuff.  Seems every other week there is something announced for MP.

At this point I'm thinking they're putting resources into MP because its the only thing thats giving them money with the micro transactions of specter packs and such they know the SP is chalking up to be a pretty big money tank/failure because half or a little over half the fanbase is still pissed and describing it as pointless.

Its sad to think that if ME3 didn't have MP micro transactions it would be a complete financial failure.

[LanceSolous13]

ld1449 wrote...

CmndrFisher wrote...

We definately did not get the "big things" as promised by Gamble. Bioware blew a great chance at some positive PR at SDCC.  Instead, they rehashed a lot of the same "we worked hard and Multiplayer is great" mantra. 
Don't get me wrong.  I'm thankful for the EC to a certain degree, but this would have been a great opportunity for Bioware to give the singleplayers somethuing to look forward to.  Instead, all we got were vague hints, a picture and ambiguities.

Personally, I have been hanging around waiting for Single player DLC announcements and I thought we would get something of substance at the SDCC.  But no. alas.

I'm tired of waiting while, MP keeps getting more weekend events and free stuff.  Seems every other week there is something announced for MP.

At this point I'm thinking they're putting resources into MP because its the only thing thats giving them money with the micro transactions of specter packs and such they know the SP is chalking up to be a pretty big money tank/failure because half or a little over half the fanbase is still pissed and describing it as pointless.

Its sad to think that if ME3 didn't have MP micro transactions it would be a complete financial failure.

I've never played MP and don't plan on ever doing so, but weren't the multiplayer packs free?

[ld1449]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

CmndrFisher wrote...

We definately did not get the "big things" as promised by Gamble. Bioware blew a great chance at some positive PR at SDCC.  Instead, they rehashed a lot of the same "we worked hard and Multiplayer is great" mantra. 
Don't get me wrong.  I'm thankful for the EC to a certain degree, but this would have been a great opportunity for Bioware to give the singleplayers somethuing to look forward to.  Instead, all we got were vague hints, a picture and ambiguities.

Personally, I have been hanging around waiting for Single player DLC announcements and I thought we would get something of substance at the SDCC.  But no. alas.

I'm tired of waiting while, MP keeps getting more weekend events and free stuff.  Seems every other week there is something announced for MP.

At this point I'm thinking they're putting resources into MP because its the only thing thats giving them money with the micro transactions of specter packs and such they know the SP is chalking up to be a pretty big money tank/failure because half or a little over half the fanbase is still pissed and describing it as pointless.

Its sad to think that if ME3 didn't have MP micro transactions it would be a complete financial failure.

I've never played MP and don't plan on ever doing so, but weren't the multiplayer packs free?

You have the option of either earning the credits in game and buying them (for free)

Or you pay x amount of MSP to get a pack. With like the recruit pack being 80MSP's

Edit/addition:

At this point I believe their strategy is to keep promoting MP by offering free aditions that pay for themselves with the micro transactions until they can properly figure out how to push SP to not be a complete failure with further aditions to the ending being considered but not yet sure on due to pride and previous statements made that will make both them and people who have defended them look even "worse"

Say what you like about Gaming media and how unobjective they are no one likes to be snubbed after puting their already tarnished reputation "on the line" for you.

Modifié par ld1449, 15 juillet 2012 - 08:58 .

[chemiclord]

Gruntburner wrote...

Remember kids, if people don't ask the questions you want, they were obviously screened.

I'm sure they were to some extent.

But there WERE some "good" questions asked.  What I suspect were screened were questions that were blatantly intended not to ask a question, but simply to antagonize (an example of one such "question" that was really nothing more than a thinly veiled insult was relayed in the comic con thread).

[Conniving_Eagle]

ld1449 wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

CmndrFisher wrote...

We definately did not get the "big things" as promised by Gamble. Bioware blew a great chance at some positive PR at SDCC.  Instead, they rehashed a lot of the same "we worked hard and Multiplayer is great" mantra. 
Don't get me wrong.  I'm thankful for the EC to a certain degree, but this would have been a great opportunity for Bioware to give the singleplayers somethuing to look forward to.  Instead, all we got were vague hints, a picture and ambiguities.

Personally, I have been hanging around waiting for Single player DLC announcements and I thought we would get something of substance at the SDCC.  But no. alas.

I'm tired of waiting while, MP keeps getting more weekend events and free stuff.  Seems every other week there is something announced for MP.

At this point I'm thinking they're putting resources into MP because its the only thing thats giving them money with the micro transactions of specter packs and such they know the SP is chalking up to be a pretty big money tank/failure because half or a little over half the fanbase is still pissed and describing it as pointless.

Its sad to think that if ME3 didn't have MP micro transactions it would be a complete financial failure.

I've never played MP and don't plan on ever doing so, but weren't the multiplayer packs free?

You have the option of either earning the credits in game and buying them (for free)

Or you pay x amount of MSP to get a pack. With like the recruit pack being 80MSP's

Edit/addition:

At this point I believe their strategy is to keep promoting MP by offering free aditions that pay for themselves with the micro transactions until they can properly figure out how to push SP to not be a complete failure with further aditions to the ending being considered but not yet sure on due to pride and previous statements made that will make both them and people who have defended them look even "worse"

Say what you like about Gaming media and how unobjective they are no one likes to be snubbed after puting their already tarnished reputation "on the line" for you.

I heard about someone who spent 2,000.00 USD on Multiplayer packs. I know my friend bought 3200 MSP to buy 20 Spectre packs, so yeah. Rest assured, it brings them home some big bucks.

[Conniving_Eagle]

chemiclord wrote...

Gruntburner wrote...

Remember kids, if people don't ask the questions you want, they were obviously screened.

I'm sure they were to some extent.

But there WERE some "good" questions asked.  What I suspect were screened were questions that were blatantly intended not to ask a question, but simply to antagonize (an example of one such "question" that was really nothing more than a thinly veiled insult was relayed in the comic con thread).

Such as "Why did they decide to thematically change the series in the last 10 minutes of the game?"