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[Sphynxian]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

arial wrote...

Bringdown the sky was only playabale pre-ending of ME1, and it was still a great DLC

its was great, I meant that ME3 is the only one that doesn't have post ending DLC to they story arc

You technically can say that Arrival was really the only post ending DLC for ME2 because you need to defeat the Collectors to do the Arrival mission.

No you don't. You can do arrival before, and instead of talking to Harbinger directly at the end you talk to the Collector General.

[comrade gando]

More pointless adventures so you can get screwed over in the end anyway. Fun times /puke

[Mathias]

arial wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Please stop bringing up ME2 DLC. Let's not forget you can continue to play ME2, once you beat the game. Most people who downloaded the DLC, played it post ending.

So yeah. Not a good comparison to bring ME2 DLC up.

Yet you can't play ME2 if you already did every mission and you forgot about ME1.

What?

Protip: Ignore everything Blueprotoss ever says. It never makes sense.

what he is trying to say is that being able to play ME2 after the story is pointless if you have already finished every mission

Oh thanks. I always felt like the DLC in ME2 was a continuation of Shepard's adventure. Once you beat the game and got every side mission done, there was no point in playing that character anymore. Once the DLCs came out, we were able to go back and go on another mission. That's what I enjoyed a lot about the ME2 DLC.

I do see both sides of the arguement. I feel that if ME3 had a great ending, then people would be way more open to DLC that doesn't effect the ending. But the way the game ends and the mechanics of the War Assets, it's understandable why in this particular case, people want more than just added gameplay. It would be nice if playing through all future SP DLC, will build up to the unlocking of another ending.

[AresKeith]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

arial wrote...

Bringdown the sky was only playabale pre-ending of ME1, and it was still a great DLC

its was great, I meant that ME3 is the only one that doesn't have post ending DLC to they story arc

You technically can say that Arrival was really the only post ending DLC for ME2 because you need to defeat the Collectors to do the Arrival mission.

no you can do Arrival before the Suicide mission, which is really stupid, but some RPG DLCs are like that for some reason

[Blueprotoss]

Sphynxian wrote...

No you don't. You can do arrival before, and instead of talking to Harbinger directly at the end you talk to the Collector General.

No you can't since I played ME2 after Arrival was released and the mission didn't activate until the Collectors were defeated.

AresKeith wrote...

no you can do Arrival before the Suicide mission, which is really stupid, but some RPG DLCs are like that for some reason

I guess it worked differently for me then since I did every mission and Arrival didn't show up until I beat ME2. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 15 juillet 2012 - 05:46 .

[Mcfly616]

SmokePants wrote...

Only a Mass Effect fan would ask this. A lot of people thought that if the entire squad from ME2 wasn't carried over to ME3, then ME2 was pointless. Or if a choice doesn't impact the next game in the series, then the choice is pointless.

This type of thinking is toxic and spoiled. This is entertainment. If you are having fun and enjoying something in the moment, then it has value. Only a complete idiot thinks, "Gee, I can't wait to see whether I enjoyed that or not when the next game/ending rolls around.

In 99% of all video games, we either don't have decisions to make or our decisions don't really matter. That does not make them pointless and we buy DLC to draw out and extend our enjoyment. It's as simple and common-sense as that. If there was one critique I'd have for the BioWare community, it would be, "You're looking at things all wrong."

this

[robarcool]

Because...

[arial]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Sphynxian wrote...

No you don't. You can do arrival before, and instead of talking to Harbinger directly at the end you talk to the Collector General.

No you can't since I played ME2 after Arrival was released and the mission didn't activate until the Collectors were defeated.

actually, you can play Arrival pre-suicide mission, just like you can Overlord and LOTSB. it activates right after horizon and you check your terminal

[Romaka]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Sphynxian wrote...

No you don't. You can do arrival before, and instead of talking to Harbinger directly at the end you talk to the Collector General.

No you can't since I played ME2 after Arrival was released and the mission didn't activate until the Collectors were defeated.

AresKeith wrote...

no you can do Arrival before the Suicide mission, which is really stupid, but some RPG DLCs are like that for some reason

I guess it worked differently for me then since I did every mission and Arrival didn't show up until I beat ME2. 

As far as I knew the Arrival DLC unlocks after doing the Horizon mission.

EDIT  Or look to the post above me

Modifié par Romaka, 15 juillet 2012 - 05:48 .

[Renmiri1]

TBH the crappy ending made me frustrated. I got no proper "send off" for a game and a universe I liked. If a DLC can provide more time with ME2 squad mates and the kind of good writing / play that was ME2, ME2 DLCs and Tuchanka / Ranoch missions on ME3, I would like to play them.

Does Bioware deserve my money ? After ME3 maybe not, but I still have a lot of goodwill for it due to the previous games. So if they manage to fire / demote / transfer the bad writers and fix things and make a good DLC, I'd buy it

[zsom]

Sion1138 wrote...

Well, to me, DLC seems to be exactly that. Buying little chunks of content. Who's to say that certain elements added through DLC shouldn't perhaps have been included in the main game? 

The most glaring example being "From Ashes". The Prothean race was a major factor in the story of Mass Effect and yet they made you buy last living Prothean as DLC.

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What's the difference between adding to the story mid-game and adding to it post-game?

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I for one am much more fond of the old "Expansion" model.

There is a huge difference between non essential content and game changing content like a new ending.
And I enjoyed expansions as well, but let's face it, that model is dead. Steam, gog and game renting has killed it.
Deus Ex HR is now less than 20$ on Steam, I bought Skyrim for a little more than 20$, and you can buy a million other complete games for 10$ or less. Who will spend more than 20$ on an expansion which has obviously less content than a full game. And selling an expansion for 10$ will be a huge flop.

[Blueprotoss]

Sion1138 wrote...

- I don't know anything about Fable 2.

 Don't because it split the game up into 3 parts for $10 each without the DLC packs.

Sion1138 wrote... 
 
- What makes a character important? Is Vega more relevant than Javik?

Important would be like Kasumi based on how she was supposed to be one of the original squadmates for the Suicide Mission while she was cut for time.  Javik is just something extra.

Sion1138 wrote... 

- I liked Awakening.

There's nothing wrong with that while I just wanted to give you an example.

[Blueprotoss]

arial wrote...

actually, you can play Arrival pre-suicide mission, just like you can Overlord and LOTSB. it activates right after horizon and you check your terminal

For some reason it didn't happen to me and I had all the DLCs downloaded.

[Blavak]

RavenEyry wrote...

Few more gameplay hours was all we got from ME2 DLC.

You recieved new sidekick which could be used ingame/for missions, they "physically" showed in Suicide Mission and they could die and Shepards story wasnt closed after final mission (unless he died). And because we are 100% sure, that everything from DLCs will be only War Assets at the end, DLCs are useless. Right now, I have 6700 WA and EMS. And still going to do Quarian-Geth Arc - so whats the point to have more WA/EMS when "best" ending is with 4000+?

As someone said - I rather watch somebody playing it on Youtube and save money.

[Ticonderoga117]

Why do we want Omega back? I mean sure, help Aria, big whoop. But the only thing special about Omega is the Relay to the Collector base, which no longer exists (for me). The only thing that I can see making it worthwhile would be the ship graveyard on the other side. Still though, that won't do any good since any tech we find won't do the Galaxy a lick of good because "Lol, can't beat them conventionally."

Next is Leviathan. So, we do this thing with a rogue Reaper. This will be bad for two possible reasons.
1. He's going to spout more garbage to back up GlowBoy which will only make ME1 and ME2 even more pointless.
2. Anything we learn from him that MAY be of use against GlowBoy, we won't be able to use. Again.

[Blueprotoss]

Blavak wrote...

You recieved new sidekick which could be used ingame/for missions, they "physically" showed in Suicide Mission and they could die and Shepards story wasnt closed after final mission (unless he died). And because we are 100% sure, that everything from DLCs will be only War Assets at the end, DLCs are useless. Right now, I have 6700 WA and EMS. And still going to do Quarian-Geth Arc - so whats the point to have more WA/EMS when "best" ending is with 4000+? 

Kasumi was the exception based on how see was part of the Suicide Mission requirements, bt she got cut based on time and was one of the reasons why she was the 1st post launch DLC.

Blavak wrote... 

As someone said - I rather watch somebody playing it on Youtube and save money.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

Either way you're still paying for it based on Internet access and Bandwidth use.

[Thore2k10]

The dlc for ME2 was good, i liked to play it. I think they could have come up with a better reason to do the Arrival withut squadmates, since i had the feeling they just dont wanted to pay the voiceactors but whatever, i liked it. Harby was good at the end.

I think ill watch the new DLC on youtube, or read about them on BSN first... i almost cant bring myself to play ME3 again, because i really dont like being forced into this depressing ending. well if they do something about the ending with the dlc than ill buy it right away!

[Sundance31us]

Samtheman63 wrote...

some people enjoy playing the game

This^^^^

[cipherknight]

I'm not sure I mean with ME2 you could at least tell yourself this will pay off later or have some impact for ME3 (little did we know it would be war assets that didn't matter). With ME3 you can't really take that approach because the story is said and done. So unless any ME3 DLC has an effect on the ending (which it will most likely not) your just getting DLC for a few more adventures with Shepard and friends(which isn't necessarily a bad thing some people just like playing the game) . Besides it would be a little messed paying for DLC that actually altered the ending when you have players that are well beyond the 3100 EMS ( 4000 was the old limit) EMS (I'm at 11.4k)

I gotta feeling people are going to Youtube the crap outta the DLCs.

Modifié par cipherknight, 15 juillet 2012 - 06:25 .

[TudorWolf]

I'm taking a very wait and see approach on any single player DLC. At least with ME1 and ME2, you had another game to come where more longer reaching consequences could be dealt with (and near every DLC over both games did have some consequences that comes up again later). That won't be the case anymore.

How can anyone say something as big a deal as a rogue reaper (if the Leviathan stuff is correct) just be a mission that changes nothing in the long run is perfectly fine?

[Blavak]

Blueprotoss wrote...
Either way you're still paying for it based on Internet access and Bandwidth use.

Wait what? Did you said what I think you said? (Paying net + watching ME3 DLCs = paying for ME3 DLCs?)

[Pitznik]

cipherknight wrote...

I'm not sure I mean with ME2 you could at least tell yourself this will pay off later or have some impact for ME3 (little did we know it would be war assets that didn't matter). With ME3 you can't really take that approach because the story is said and done. So unless any ME3 DLC has an effect on the ending (which it will most likely not) your just getting DLC for a few more adventures with Shepard and friends(which isn't necessarily a bad thing some people just like playing the game) . Besides it would be a little messed paying for DLC that actually altered the ending when you have players that are well beyond the 3100 EMS ( 4000 was the old limit) EMS (I'm at 11.4k)

I gotta feeling people are going to Youtube the crap outta the DLCs.

Are you saying that you were buying and playing ME2 DLCs with ME3 in mind?

[robarcool]

Blavak wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...
Either way you're still paying for it based on Internet access and Bandwidth use.

Wait what? Did you said what I think you said? (Paying net + watching ME3 DLCs = paying for ME3 DLCs?)

Probably he has a pay per kB connection.