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[LobselVith8]

Spanishcat wrote...

That right there is evidence that not all BioWare 'fans' around here are petty, selfish, narrow minded and resentful. Kudos, especially to Cyne re DAII.

I don't think fans are petty, selfish, or narrow-minded simply because they dislike the current direction of Bioware and their last two games.

[Reznik23]

Spanishcat wrote...

People aren't seriously questioning whether ME3 was a cracking game... are they? Even if people have petty gripes about the end/s, the rest was surely first-class by anyone's books.

Anyhoo, I'll be pre-ordering DA3 and supporting it after launch.

 That's the thing: DA2 was a good game that I enjoyed greatly.

Yes, I was disappointed in that I'd hoped for more from a Dragon Age game, but I didn't feel really upset or cheated in any way. Even though it was obviously rushed & there was a lot of corner-cutting (EAs fault I presume), compared to most of the rubbish games that become hits these days, it was brilliant!

I've been playing through it again lately and I'm really having a good time just enjoying it for what it is, rather than getting the sooks about what I wish it was.

[xxBabyMonkeyxx]

I hope so. DA3 could be BioWare's saving grace or the reason everyone stops buying BioWare games altogether. After watching the PAX panel, im hopeful. Despite all of DA2's flaws, its still fun to come back to every now and again. I really want BioWare to do the DA series justice, DAO was the reason I started playing BioWare games and RPGs in general.

[Sinuphro]

adam1986shadow wrote...

When it comes to Dragon Age 3? 

nope; we expected em to deliver in me3 but look wat bioware and ea did to it? they've had enough 2nd chances. the way i see it, they need to literally get their game past skyrim's lvl before they can get me to buy anything they make. as things stand now...crysis 3 and all the other games they plan to make this year and next year are going to fail...horribly

[Sinuphro]

you know; the 1st day i logged onto this forum was to post how awful dragon age 2 was. if da2 was as good as dao i would never have come here

[Sinuphro]

MrCrabby wrote...

addiction21 wrote...
And what is this idealised version of BioWare you have?

The BioWare that made Shattered Steel?
The on that made MDK2?
Or the Baldurs Gate games?
Could it be the one that made Neverwinter Nights where they droped the group mechanic and were one of the first developers to push out DLC?
Or is it the BioWare that sold out to Lucas Arts to make a console RPG?
Or a ARPG?
The one that made the Sonic handheld RPG?
Or that once again sold out to Microsoft to make a console FPS interactive movie?
How about the one that made a spirtual succesor to Baldurs Gate that pushed media like ? A game that has more in common with DA2 then it has with Baldurs Gate?

Bad paraphrasing. Like paraphrasing or not aside can I borrow that time machine so I can see for myself that its bad.
Partly fixed protag? Like the Bhallspawn that must be a orphan that comes from CandleKeep and lets not forget Amoen no matter what you do in the first game joins you at the start of the second... I am Revan no matter what. Shepard will always be partly fixed. The Warden? Again partly fixed. You just get to choose which one.

My characters beliefes? http://social.biowar.../index/12890819

What my character believes extends beyond the religious. It also takes more then one line in one origin to build beliefs.
Also just saying "I do not believe in the maker" does not make a character a Athethist. Just like a Christian can say they do not believe in Zeus or Kali.
A persons beliefs extends far beyond accepting relgious dogma or not.

/rant

I have never had faith in BioWare to make a game I like. They have made many games that I like so I have kept a weathered  eye on them. I am not a fan of NWN, Jade Empire or the first Mass Effect game (I only finished it because I liked ME2) and DA2 is a game that did not meet my expectations of what to expect from BioWare. I enjoyed it and have played thru it but it is not the mechanics or features I find fault with. The lack of polish, and multiple act story that was disconnected and only felt like a partial story compared to their previous games, and the blatent reuse of maps.

Bioware made a console game? Good God!



Basically your post is "I like Bioware but hate pretty much everything they did."

I bet a shiney penny you hang out at the codex.

man...that owl pic is so f ing funny. especially the the fact that it so fits the post it was in

[RaggieRags]

I'm unsure myself. I've been a fan of Bioware from 1998. That's a long time... But if I look at the games they came up with in their earliest years, and compare them to the games they've come up with in the latest years, I can't help but admit Bioware is not what it used to be. From interviews and their current direction I've come to the conclusion I don't like their way of thinking anymore. It seems to me that it's a company with still a lot of passion, but it's directed by people who are more concerned with the business side of things rarther than the games themselves, unlike how things were at the beginning. I also have the feeling that some of the creative people have surrounded themselves with a bunch of yes-men and have become a little too self-absorbed for their own good. I might be wrong, but this is the feeling I get. I still have some feeling of resentment over how Bioware handled the fan critizism on ME3.

Bioware used to be about creating the kind of RPGs the doctors liked. Now Bioware is about making the kind of RPGs that will bring in the most amount of gamers, and milk them for all the money they can get. Things have changed. A lot of the people who made the games I love have left the company. My feelings have changed. I don't really trust Bioware the way I used to, and I definitely don't love it the way I used to. I'm becoming more and more disattached. DA3 has a lot to prove.

[zyntifox]

RaggieRags wrote...

I'm unsure myself. I've been a fan of Bioware from 1998. That's a long time... But if I look at the games they came up with in their earliest years, and compare them to the games they've come up with in the latest years, I can't help but admit Bioware is not what it used to be. From interviews and their current direction I've come to the conclusion I don't like their way of thinking anymore. It seems to me that it's a company with still a lot of passion, but it's directed by people who are more concerned with the business side of things rarther than the games themselves, unlike how things were at the beginning. I also have the feeling that some of the creative people have surrounded themselves with a bunch of yes-men and have become a little too self-absorbed for their own good. I might be wrong, but this is the feeling I get. I still have some feeling of resentment over how Bioware handled the fan critizism on ME3.

Bioware used to be about creating the kind of RPGs the doctors liked. Now Bioware is about making the kind of RPGs that will bring in the most amount of gamers, and milk them for all the money they can get. Things have changed. A lot of the people who made the games I love have left the company. My feelings have changed. I don't really trust Bioware the way I used to, and I definitely don't love it the way I used to. I'm becoming more and more disattached. DA3 has a lot to prove.

I think this post deserves a quoute since it is a good reflection of what i think. I too have been a fan since 1998 and seen the devolution over the years.

[Lord Gremlin]

For now I would go with no, but I've seen crazy stuff happening. You know Two Worlds? It's was a disgusting abomination of a game. And then same guys suddenly wow us with Two Worlds 2, perfectly good and enjoyable game. So, who knows?
That said most people who made Bioware Bioware quit...

[Das Tentakel]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

For now I would go with no, but I've seen crazy stuff happening. You know Two Worlds? It's was a disgusting abomination of a game. And then same guys suddenly wow us with Two Worlds 2, perfectly good and enjoyable game. So, who knows?
That said most people who made Bioware Bioware quit...

To be honest, I have both, and in Two Worlds I, specifically the PC version in its final patched state, you can see the love is there. Just not the experience and the resources that were needed. The console version was really, really awful. It was a necessary lesson for Reality Pump Studios, and hopefully they’ll continue developing their expertise in RPG’s. I am certainly interested in what they make of their next game, Sacrilegium.

But there’s a big difference between Reality Pump Studios making Two Worlds I and BioWare making Dragon Age 2. The first was a relatively small European studio making its first RPG, the second was THE RPG maker par excellence and crown jewel of mighty EA, BioWare, producing a sequel to a highly regarded and successful game within the genre that is its specialty.

In the first case, the stumble is regrettable but understandable. In the second case, what happened is highly surprising to many and almost beyond belief to some.

By now I’ve been seriously wondering for quite some time whether there’s something structurally not quite right.
Hopefully not, because that would mean that a major improvement, analogous to the jump in quality between Two Worlds I and II, is highly unlikely. But that may be precisely what is needed. It seems to me that some very powerful forces, some of them possibly internal to BioWare, are pulling in different directions.

I hope for the best, but as I am a semi-pessimist by nature my confidence level could use some encouragement…

[JasonPogo]

I think since Brent Knowles left Bioware lost all my faith. Brent even said he left cuz of the way they were makeing DA2 and that he wanted no part of it.

[PaulSX]

I think the answer will depend on what you expect. If you are just expecting a typical BioWare game, then I would say yes. if you are expecting something classic and deep, then I would say no.

[alex13abc]

RaggieRags wrote...

I'm unsure myself. I've been a fan of Bioware from 1998. That's a long time... But if I look at the games they came up with in their earliest years, and compare them to the games they've come up with in the latest years, I can't help but admit Bioware is not what it used to be. From interviews and their current direction I've come to the conclusion I don't like their way of thinking anymore. It seems to me that it's a company with still a lot of passion, but it's directed by people who are more concerned with the business side of things rarther than the games themselves, unlike how things were at the beginning. I also have the feeling that some of the creative people have surrounded themselves with a bunch of yes-men and have become a little too self-absorbed for their own good. I might be wrong, but this is the feeling I get. I still have some feeling of resentment over how Bioware handled the fan critizism on ME3.

Bioware used to be about creating the kind of RPGs the doctors liked. Now Bioware is about making the kind of RPGs that will bring in the most amount of gamers, and milk them for all the money they can get. Things have changed. A lot of the people who made the games I love have left the company. My feelings have changed. I don't really trust Bioware the way I used to, and I definitely don't love it the way I used to. I'm becoming more and more disattached. DA3 has a lot to prove.

Great post. Sums up my feelings exactly.

[Pasquale1234]

adam1986shadow wrote...

When it comes to Dragon Age 3? 

I've not heard them make any formal announcement about Dragon Age 3.

I know they are very capable of delivering a game that can keep me mesmerized for hundreds of hours, because they've done that before.  They've made it pretty clear, though, that they're taking this franchise in a different direction, and that direction is in direct opposition to gameplay features I can enjoy.

So - do I have faith in them to deliver?

Sure.  They'll deliver something, maybe even something high-quality and well-received.

But I have zero faith in them delivering a game that I'll want to play, due to the changes in design and presentation.

ETA:

Das Tentakel wrote...
I hope for the best, but as I am a semi-pessimist by nature my confidence level could use some encouragement…{smilie}

Really wish I could help.  I am typically quite optimistic, and I do expect they'll be making a lot of improvements... but I still don't think it's going to be a game I'll enjoy, either.  Sorry.

Modifié par Pasquale1234, 15 août 2012 - 09:58 .

[TonberryFeye]

BioWare were not really on my radar prior to Origins. I was aware of them, but I just didn't care; it was the game that mattered, not who made it. Origins was enough to make me sit up and pay attention to the name on the box.

DA2's massive drop in quality means I now look for the name BioWare so I know what to AVOID, not buy.

[ediskrad327]

considering DA3 most likely will come out 2014 i have. let's hope it's not rushed. i want and hope that DA3 will be a masterpiece.

Modifié par ediskrad327, 16 août 2012 - 05:17 .

[ushae]

Always

Baldurs Gate was the very reason I developed an avid liking to videogames in the first place. It was Bioware's brilliance that was able to evoke a personal thought and opinion in a videogame. They were one of the first (planescape being the other!) to explore this area, and are still the most successful, until recently that is.

I'm confident they will return to their glory days, that is if EA give them space to breathe again.. Their next 2-3 next gen projects may very well be their comeback. Who knows *shrug*

[LittleGlassVial]

Dragon Age: Origins is my all time favourite game so I really hope they don't screw it up but I am quickly losing faith in Bioware.

[AudioEpics]

I enjoyed every Bioware game I've ever played, with KOTOR as my favorite. I'm confident that I'll enjoy Dragon Age III as much or more as its predecessors (which I both loved).

[Lurklen]

Yeah I've always enjoyed Bioware games. Even DA2 was a good game with some bad design decisions.

[Fisto The Sexbot]

 

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 23 août 2012 - 04:39 .

[tez19]

After the piece of horse sh%t that was DA2, I have no faith in Bioware, I will wait and see but after DA2 and the ME3 endings, I think i will never buy a Bioware game again.

[Rayndorn]

I've loved Bioware games since I first picked up DA1 (I got the DA games first and ME second ) And I have faith in them. I might just be easy to please, but I never complained about DA2 and ME3. Yes, the endings were strange, but I knew they would alter them/make them clearer.

[Renmiri1]

@Fisto the Sexbot - Don't hold back, tell us what you really think!

Good god Fisto why so much hate ? If you don't like Gaider's writing, don't read it, there is no need for that much vitriol!

[tez19]

I HAVE NO FAITH IN BIOWARE LEFT.