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[Plaintiff]

I have faith in Bioware to deliver a game that I will enjoy.

I don't claim to know what anyone else wants, and I don't really care if they get it or not.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 16 juillet 2012 - 12:39 .

[Zubie]

Sadly no. They have made it clear on what their new direction is and it simply doesn't align with my preferences.

Modifié par easygame88, 16 juillet 2012 - 12:39 .

[Rxdiaz]

Nope. They want to continue in the direction of DA2, which I thought was a steaming pile of dog cr@p. I don't know why they think DA2 was great but they obviously do....

[ItsTheTruth]

Rxdiaz wrote...
Nope. They want to continue in the direction of DA2, which I thought was a steaming pile of dog cr@p.

It's the truth. DA3 will be a steaming pile of dog cr@p with a multiplayer mode.

I don't know why they think DA2 was great but they obviously do....

Because of consumer feedb... Oh wait.
Because of amazing sales... Huh, nevermind.
Because of great reviews in IGN and PC Gamer!

(Also in a big corporation like EA, nobody ever admits doing any mistake so we will never know why DA2 was sooo bad)

Modifié par ItsTheTruth, 16 juillet 2012 - 01:34 .

[iggy4566]

I have some faith in the DA team mainly because they listen to their fans and work with them unlike the ME team and the DA team had the balls to say that we messed up that alone makes me have some faith.

[SirCrashalot]

I have faith that Bioware will try to deliver.

Whether they will be given enough time to do what they want to do is another thing entirely.

[Chipaway111]

I'm on the fence, even though Bioware have admitted that some mistakes were made with DA2 it's the fact they were there in the first place. I recognize that you can't simply ask them to make DA:O again with improved graphics because it would cause the series to stagnate, some things need to be changed, I still have some trust left that the professional game developers will know what those changes should be. Mostly.

Then again I absolutely HATE multiplayer with a passion and was dismayed that it was included in ME3. Even worse that it affected the singe player campaign. Though that's just my preference. Hearing rumours that DA3 might have it has only caused me to become a little more weary. Though I've found a way to ensure I'm never disappointed by games ever again; my expectations are as low as they can possibly get.

So if I'm right, then I get to be proven correct, if I'm wrong I get a great game anyway.

[DarkDragon777]

No.

[ItsTheTruth]

iggy4566 wrote...

 the DA team had the balls to say that we messed up that alone makes me have some faith.

Links? For months after release, they had nothing but positive things to say about that game.

And hype for DA3 doesn't count. ("OK maybe we did mess up something in DA2 but just wait, DA3 is going to be AWESOME!")

[Everwarden]

Plaintiff wrote...

I have faith in Bioware to deliver a game that I will enjoy.

I don't claim to know what anyone else wants, and I don't really care if they get it or not.

You should. 

TOR flopped, Mass Effect 3 was extremely controversial due to the ending, and DA2 didn't sell very well relative to DAO. EA has a habit of butchering companies for meat when they stop churning out hits. 

[hussey 92]

no

[jbrand2002uk]

I'll buy it and try it same as I have with both existing games going in the direction of DA2 doesnt bother me all that much as long as it doesn't crash every 5 minutes then I'm happy to sit back and let Bioware do the job they're qualified for what does suprise me is that given the forum is so full of armchair experts who think they can either do better or know better than BW staff it goes to show the strength of character of BW when they spend time listening to all the opinionated armchair experts

[Realmzmaster]

In my estimation does not really matter. If they do not deliver Bioware may cease and the employees move on to other pursuits and life will go on. I will find other games to play. If they deliver then more DA games will be made.
As far I am concerned Bioware has so far delivered. YMMV. The only faith and trust I have is that Bioware/EA will do what is in their best interests and their stockholders best interests. Now if that is in the gaming public's best interest is an entirely different matter.

[Sharn01]

ME2 was a good game but there where a lot of problems with it, DA2 was a decent game with a ton of problems, and the end of the game didnt make sense.  ME3, while a good game until the ending had more problems then the other two combined, and the end was not only bad it destroyed any enjoyment I had gotten from the previous two titles. DA3 will be the first bioware title in a very long time that I do not preorder.

Short answer: No

Modifié par Sharn01, 16 juillet 2012 - 03:54 .

[inzesky]

I take the fact that they haven't officially announced the game as a good thing, considering that my major gripes with DA2 are related to the game's short development cycle. So yes, I think the team can deliver a satisfying third installment. Do I believe it will please everyone? No, the series changed dramatically in terms of art direction and the addition of voiced PC, so even if the game is mechanically sound some people will be disappointed.

What would make DA3 a sure purchase for me is if they lure Alex Freed from SWTOR to do some writing. His work on the Imperial Agent's storyline was fantastic in terms of pacing, dialogue and narrative cohesion. Also actually adding NON-Violent solutions to major boss battles was something the rest of the Bioware teams (TOR included) should have learned by now.

[devSin]

Maybe.

I know the team can deliver. I don't know if they'll have enough time to be able to do so.

I'm also not sure if David is going to have the time to write more companions. Luke and Shmaryl tear it up, but he still writes all my favorites. (If Shale comes back, David has to write her. She's the one.)

Modifié par devSin, 16 juillet 2012 - 04:56 .

[Reznik23]

Honestly, I don't know if I do have faith - I hope they can. The multiplayer thing really worries me, especially after reading about ME3.

I was actually intending to do another one of those DA3 wishlist posts today, but I realise that it's just redundant - Bioware will make the game EA wants them to make, like it or not.

Like Sharn01 I can't see myself preordering DA3, rather I think I'll sit back & see how it ends up before I commit. (Although if they did a PROPER collector's edition with CD soundtrack & art book for example, rather than just codes for downloadable rubbish, I'd probably consider it.)

DA:O was a great game, DA:2 was a good game - let's hope they can turn things around again.

The fact that Bioware have said that they're looking closely at Skyrim actually does give me some hope - Skyrim did have some brilliant features & changed the idea of what an rpg game could/should be, in many ways, for me. (Let's just hope they don't copy Skyrim's bugginess & broken unplayability!!) Just so long as DA3 is a Dragon Age game & not an Elder Scrolls rip-off.

[Ash Wind]

No, and that's ok. I come here because I still have a vested interest in the overall story and some of the characters I like. But I have no faith in them to produce a game I will need to buy on day 1, or day 90 for that matter. DA2 Part 2 with no re-used areas doesn't fix what's wrong. I bought DA2 for $11.95 6 months after its release and no DLC. I am content to do the same for DA3.

[Plaintiff]

Everwarden wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I have faith in Bioware to deliver a game that I will enjoy.

I don't claim to know what anyone else wants, and I don't really care if they get it or not.

You should. 

TOR flopped, Mass Effect 3 was extremely controversial due to the ending, and DA2 didn't sell very well relative to DAO. EA has a habit of butchering companies for meat when they stop churning out hits. 

Accoding to the naysayers on this forum, the only way to "succeed" is to undo all the changes of DA2 and move backwards.

And if that's the case, then I don't want it, so it's no skin off my back if such a game succeeds or not. Why should I care about the welfare of a company that makes games I don't buy?

[CELL55]

 If they can learn from the mistakes of DA2 AND ME3, then yes, I think it is possible for them to deliver. 
I'm not pre-ordering from Bioware again though, been burned too many times for that to be a good idea. 

[Gibb_Shepard]

Yup. I feel like DA3 is going to be quite a marvel. The DA team seem to be very receptive to feedback, while still keeping their own vision for the universe in mind.

The new armour customization that has been proposed by the devs, for example, looks terrific. I think a good compromise can be found between the two games. Although i think the backlash from DA2 was definitely overdone, i also feel it was needed to get the devs attention. Worldwide praise and a few criticisms from a minority doesn't seem to motivate devs to rethink some of their design decisions, unfortunately.

[Orian Tabris]

Not yet. Give it time, I say.

If we ignore idiotic and suck-up reviewers, and just look at some pictures of the combat, the skill trees, and the menus, we'll have a better idea of whether or not to have faith.

Hopefully they keep some of the good specialisations: Reaver, Spirit Healer, Shadow, Assassin, and Blood Mage. Oh, and Templar - not because it's good, just because it suits the lore. And get rid of, and leave, the bad ones such as Guardian. Oh, again, Force Mage - not because it's bad, just because it suits the lore. Hopefully there are new ones too, or they bring back old ones with good reasons.

[MrCrabby]

addiction21 wrote...

Yes they made console games. MDK 2 was made for Dreamcast, PC and PS2. Rereleased years latter on the Wii.
The there was Knights of the Old Republic which was console first and then ported to the PC.
Jade Empire was a Xbox exclusive lated ported to the PC.
Then they did the the Sonich the Hedghog RPG for the DS.
Then Mass Effect was another Xbox Exlusive to later be ported to the PC. One that was broken for many PC gamers untill they patched the galaxy map bug.

They say the impersonal nature of the internet can sometimes cause others to misinterpret the tone of a post. However I thought for some reason the screaming owl meme would make it pretty obvious I was being sarcastic.

A lot of people seem to think that PC gaming is somehow superior to console gaming, or that PC gaming is more "sophisitcated". Frankly I don't see hows it make someone more or less intelligent because they interface with a game via mouse instead of a control pad.

But I digress. I thought you were listing those things as criticisms and I apologize for misunderstanding you. At least I got to use the owl picture.

Modifié par MrCrabby, 16 juillet 2012 - 08:30 .

[MrCrabby]

Rxdiaz wrote...

Nope. They want to continue in the direction of DA2, which I thought was a steaming pile of dog cr@p. I don't know why they think DA2 was great but they obviously do....

They think the primary disdain for DA2 is the recycled environments and lack of amour swapping, and not the brutal gutting of gameplay and features. The limited environments and armour were certainly lazy and annoying but I could have looked past it if the game was otherwise fun.

It was not.

Clearly the company has peaked and is now in decline. Same thing happened to Rare and it will happen again to other companies.

But hey, maybe they'll surprise us and put out something killer.

[Cutlasskiwi]

Plaintiff wrote...

Everwarden wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I have faith in Bioware to deliver a game that I will enjoy.

I don't claim to know what anyone else wants, and I don't really care if they get it or not.

You should. 

TOR flopped, Mass Effect 3 was extremely controversial due to the ending, and DA2 didn't sell very well relative to DAO. EA has a habit of butchering companies for meat when they stop churning out hits. 

Accoding to the naysayers on this forum, the only way to "succeed" is to undo all the changes of DA2 and move backwards.

And if that's the case, then I don't want it, so it's no skin off my back if such a game succeeds or not. Why should I care about the welfare of a company that makes games I don't buy?

I agree with everything Plaintiff just said.